“It's really hard to say that OKCupid wasn't blacklisting Eich. It wasn't "gee, I think he shouldn't be CEO" it was "we're putting up a screen you'll hve to click through to get to our site". And there was a great deal of organized effort to make sure that people protested.”
joemondo on Apr 8, 2014 at 20:49:07
“A blacklist refers to a list of people, and there is no blacklist. You are making that up.
Furthermore there was no organized effort. There was no group organizing anything, and no ultimatum by any group.
“By all reports, there was nothing questionable or offensive about Mozilla's policies or the way he executed them in his position as CTO (which meant that he was head of several teams and would have had ample opportunity to discriminate against gay and lesbian employees had he been of a mind to do so). He explicitly said that as CEO, he would continue to support and enforce the inclusive policies towards people of all sexual orientations among other traits. If someone had not used the campaign disclosure documents (created to find cases of "so and so has been bought by this group" or "this group was the one pushing this legislation") to find people to blacklist, the universal view of Eich would have been as a completely acceptable CEO that would continue Mozilla's leadership in openness and inclusiveness towards its workforce.
But because the blacklisters did spot him, somehow the same product, produced by the same people, created under the same policies "violates your conscience". And yet the knowledge that Sam Yagan did the same doesn't violate yours.
And no, what's braindead is thinking that there's something magical about government involvement in a climate of fear that's bad, that so long as the government is involved, climates of fear and repression are just peachy king (presuming, I suppose, that you aren't yet being repressed and fearful).”
joemondo on Apr 8, 2014 at 19:56:31
“It's not about Mozilla's policies. Please pay better attention.
It's also not about lesser roles like CTO.
And there's no blacklist. That's a made up thing.
You're not going to shame me or anyone else into giving our business in ways that are not in our best interest.
The funny thing is you're ranting about blacklists and fear and repression, but you're the one who wants to control what others do with their personal consumerism, whereas I don't care what you do.”
“I lived through the tail end of it, lad, and it wasn't just the government forcing it on people. Many companies were not only blackballing anyone with any sort of supposed communist affiliation, but anyone who knew anyone with the same. It was a time of fear. If you worked in a college, you dared not express any views against the majority or you'd be ruined for life.
The problem is that when we make any sort of political expression or activity affect people's lives in general, we create a climate of fear. They aren't fun times to live through, both because the fear itself, and the bad decisions people make while afraid.”
joemondo on Apr 8, 2014 at 16:51:49
“I didn't say it was just the government - the government created and supported and cultivated it in the private sector.
That should be obvious to anyone but the most braindead.
When you try to compel people to use products that violate their consciences you create a climate of repression.
“You're correct, legally, you have a right to judge people on any criteria they choose. Just like people legally have the right to fire people for their sexual orientation. That doesn't make it the right thing to do. Both are damaging to a free society where people don't live in fear for expressing the wrong thought or the wrong attitude.
The problem with the 50s blacklist wasn't they were blacklisting the wrong people. Blacklisting causes a climate of fear and people make bad choices when afraid.”
Robert Eckert on Apr 9, 2014 at 08:04:59
“You seem to be in favor of letting the economically powerful use their money any way they please, but if the little people do the same that is somehow violating the rights of the rich.”
joemondo on Apr 8, 2014 at 16:00:05
“Actually, in many places you DON'T have the right to fire some for their sexual orientation, and when ENDA passes that will be nation wide.
The problem with the 50's blacklist was that it was a government creation, not a free market response.
“What people have a right to judge a business by is how that business operates. Had Eich a history of abusing or discriminating against gay people, that would and should have disqualified him. Some small political donations only discovered by people digging through records looking for people to blacklist shouldn't be enough to make someone unemployable for life.
But if it is, it should apply to Sam Yagan too.
And no, I'm not doing this as a supporter of Eich's presumed position. I support same sex marriage myself. But I really hate environments of fear where people are afraid to participate in the political process. We've seen how it goes, and it doesn't lead to enhanced freedom, just the ones with the biggest club ruling.”
Robert Eckert on Apr 9, 2014 at 08:02:53
“People have a right to judge a business by any criterion they choose. When you patronize a business some of your money is going to whatever the executives of the business decide it should go toward, and it is your decision whether you want to support that.”
joemondo on Apr 8, 2014 at 13:57:10
“Actually, people have the right to judge on any criteria they choose.
I have the absolute right to choose to not use a product that will enrich someone who uses his income to try to hurt me.
If you want to talk about people's rights, try to be accurate.”
Yung Dai on Apr 8, 2014 at 13:13:53
“As a extremely liberal gay man, I have taken the unpopular among my own friends with disagreeing about how I feel we've bullied the guy out of a job. Sometimes you need to remember to listen outside your own echo chamber, and think with your head instead of your emotions sometimes.”
“Actually, Netflix and other providers do have special arrangements with ISPs to make the data go faster, there's been some squabbling about the price sometimes, but most Netflix traffic doesn't go through the normal Internet Trunks. So isn't that a violation of Net Neutrality?
There's two sides of the speed issue. One is "we work out a deal that makes this website faster than it would be if it went through the normal internet pathways", the other is "we delay packets that come through the normal internet pathways". No argument the second is bad - but the first should be considered good, shouldn't it?”
winehine on Jan 14, 2014 at 21:03:16
“What broadcast/broadband signals do Netflix programs come from? (genuine question, not a tech specialist)”
“You dream of what's impossible.Technology disrupts. Usually, the net disruptions are positives, but there are always minuses with the plusses. If you insist on technology that only has positive disruption, you're back in the 19th century.”
“Yeah. And the people who died doing those jobs or were permanently maimed thought it was just swell.
And it was great never being able to go more than 10, maybe 20 miles from home if you were adventurous. And if you really needed to talk to someone far away, the mail was fine, so what if your message took weeks to be delivered.
And of course, medical care was so much better than. Give me leeks any day over surgery. If you have a heart attack, the natural thing is that you die, dammit, the idea that they can use shunts or things like that is just wrong.
Sorry, I'm having way too much fun in the 21st century. Be happy dreaming about the 19th.”
“The person who wrote this is a closet luddite, right?
The smart lock - I'm guessing the writer lives in an area where there's never anyone at the door you don't want. While yes, many doors have peepholes, the smart lock's camera will send it to your smartphone anywhere. And you can use your smartphone as a key, no fumbling to get your keys out while holding a bunch of packages.
As for the Paranoramic Ball - while yes, it does capture you in the panorama it is creating, it's not using all camera on you. It's capturing the whole surroundings of where you are, 360 degrees of images. If one does a lot of travelling, I can think of many locations it would be great to quickly get a panoramic picture.
We're still in the early stages of Smart Watches and if you're a time traveller from 2024 yes, they're all terrible compared to what we'll use then. But they can be useful to some people.”
“Using food as a coping mechanism can turn into something dangerous - but dealing with stress and having your coping mechanism taken away from you IS dangerous. Yes, binge eating can lead to being fat - but while that may not be good for you, the attitude of society is that it's a fate worse than death (which is why people are put through mutilating surgery to deal with it, forced into unnatural eating behaviors or treated like children - even though the long term success weight of weight loss programs makes leeches look like solid medical treatment).”
Quinnfish on Dec 4, 2013 at 15:43:53
“There are many coping mechanisms that are unhealthy. You keep bringing up weight as if I have used that as a point in my argument, I have not. I do not care how much anyone else weighs. Eating to cope with stress means you are not actually dealing with the things that are making you stressed. This is emotionally unhealthy. Coping mechanisms that reduce your amount of stress are very different from coping mechanisms that distract from your amount of stress. Eating is a temporary distraction, if you only use this way of coping once and a while it is not a bad thing, but if you do it regularly it is emotionally unhealthy. Repressing emotion is not good, and eating your feelings is just another way of doing that. Once again, not talking about weight.”
“It may help one cope with the stress, the good old-fashioned "comfort food". Just like going for a run helps some cope, just like grabbing a controller and killing some virtual opponents helps some cope. All of them (depending on the person) are useful in finding a bit of "me" space that lets you blot out the things stressing you for just a bit and get some emotional stability in your life.
There may be some help in identifying when one is starting to become stressed, letting you identify what is the stress triggers in your life, and maybe a warning of "hey, this isn't working, change and do something else now". Because stress has a lot of bad side effects, both physiological long term ones and short term bad choices.
I just get annoyed the way our fat phobic society puts weight gain as the ultimate self-destructive behavior.”
Quinnfish on Dec 3, 2013 at 23:43:29
“I personally hate the way our society approaches anything to do with how we should view bodies. I do not think it is a problem if you snack a bit while relaxing after a long day, but if you use food as a coping mechanism it can turn into something dangerous. Compulsively eating to deal with emotions is disordered eating. Many people think of eating disorders as restricting food, but many also suffer form binge eating disorder. Tying emotions to food is a dangerous and slippery slope. There is a huge difference between a bowl of ice cream at the end of a long day, and developing a behavior of suppressing emotions through food.”
“What's more tragic than a woman feeding her feelings and sabotages her perfect physique? Well, how about a woman suppressing her feelings and having a heart attack, a woman breaking down from stress and taking it out on those around her?”
Quinnfish on Dec 3, 2013 at 22:51:25
“Emotional eating does not reduce stress. It may distract from it, but in no way would emotional eating reduce a woman's risk of a heart attack or emotional breakdown.”
“For me, it would be The Door (Isaac Asimov, It's Such a Beautiful Day) or the Teleportation booths (many Larry Niven stories, most covered in Flash Crowd). Just step through and you're anywhere in the world you want to be, for the cost of a phone call.”
dcreader2 on Sep 16, 2013 at 13:09:48
“For an extended treatment, you should read Hyperion by Dan Simmons. They have "farcasters", which permit nigh instantaneous travel between them regardless of the distances. The farcaster network (the "WorldWeb") is the infrastructural and economical basis of the Hegemony of Man and thus determines the whole culture and society.”