“Bi-polar people don't really do "wise" so much, especially when in the manic phase, and (short of physical restraint) they are very difficult for others to control when it its grip.
I had a friend with the disorder who was found merrily skipping down the blvd. in her birthday suit one day, "looking at the pretty flowers," she explained, when finally stopped by the police. Only problem with her story...there were no flowers on that street. Even still, she could function normally, and without supervision when and IF she remained on her meds.
And, although Ms. Lam's name is a strange coincidence, coincidences DO happen...probably AT LEAST as often as actual sinister plots.”
“I believe he addresses your concern by shifting the tax burden off of the backs of the middle class through progressivity, thereby economically freeing them to begin to create wealth again for everybody's good, not just owe ever increasing debt which generates nothing, and doesn't allow the freedom or the resources to do anything more than service that debt...if they even still can...fewer cars, homes purchased or built, less innovation, etc.
He is simply suggesting recreating/re-instituting the same mechanisms, and social balance by which the great wealth of the US, in particular, was first achieved in the 20th century.”
wordcarr0112 on Jun 3, 2014 at 09:01:29
“To tax or not to tax is not going to increase the rate of growth of the GNP. I am unfamiliar with the mechanisms that you say Piketty refers.The major innovations today seem to be in mobile devices that connect with the internet. One industry will not be enough to increase GNP to a growth rate of 4 or 5 percent.”
“No, I'm not wrong..sorry, but I know what I do from experience, too. That said, and as admittedly liberal as I am, I don't think Snowden or Manning are in ANY WAY heroes, and lots of folks on the left agree with me. Personally, I think they were naive, self-centered, and misguided, and in Snowden's case, traitorous...no matter HOW MUCH I love my personal freedoms.
Manning is doing time...just as she should be, and, If we could get Snowden back to stand trial for what he did, I'd feel the same way about whatever LEGAL fate fell on his head. Things are just not as simple as left and right.
Regardless, I can agree with one thing you said - I'll also reserve judgement on Sgt. Bergdahl until we better understand the facts of his actions...not just what people claim (or even, necessarily, what he wrote). I'm reminded of Pat Tillman's case and how everyone was saying one thing about the incident at first, but eventually everything unfolded quite differently with time and knowledge. I think it's wise to keep a bit of an open mind where war is concerned - jumping to conclusions can be fatal.
So, no he's no hero to me, but if he's got to pay for whatever he's done, I want him in OUR prison, and on OUR terms...not the Taliban's.”
wyldthings on Jun 2, 2014 at 18:00:52
“I said you were wrong that I was convicting him before the facts. The rest I agree with!”
“We HAD to get him out - dead or alive, we bring our soldiers home - we don't forget them. Best to worst, every soldier (and their family) depends on that knowledge for hope should they be captured or worse.
Since lives had already been lost trying to save him, what better way to accomplish it, AND begin to be done with these less-than-legal prisoners of OURS, as well? At least this way it didn't cost anyone ELSE their life. Good riddance to them - we'll "deal" with them later...if need be.
The president did the right thing, and now the military can deal with Sgt. Bergdahl in whatever way THEY deem appropriate for his actions.”
cryofpaine on Jun 2, 2014 at 17:59:12
“We also don't negotiate with terrorists. The people involved in this decision have declared open season on our citizens and soldiers. Want a high level official of your terrorist organization out of prison? Just kidnap some college kid on vacation or some soldier on shore leave. Heck, maybe we should just let everyone in gitmo go free in exchange for the captive girls in Nigeria.
There is a reason why policy has always been not to negotiate with terrorists, period.”
“To be fair, the reason people who watch these shows are more generally aware of what's going on in the news, is ALSO because they are just more aware, generally. They investigate MANY sources...not just Colbert or Stewart.
As good as they are, they are often preaching to an already pretty well informed choir.”
“Yes, that JOIN the enemy...but, that isn't yet clear in this case. Plus, many have been gotten out quietly, without the general public's knowledge.
There are all kinds of individual circumstances, but as a policy, we don't leave our soldiers in captivity - and they depend on that knowledge to give them hope, and the will to resist if they ever find themselves captured.
But, just like our laws protect the worst of us at home, so that the rest of us have SOME guarantee of justice for all, we have to protect the worst of us at war, too, or what hope do his betters have of rescue?
You are ready to convict him on the allegation alone, apparently? I'd prefer to bring him home, try, THEN convict him, if warranted. Anything less would only make us as bad as him if it all proves to be true.”
wyldthings on Jun 2, 2014 at 16:48:24
“You are wrong. I have stated I will reserve final judgement till we have the facts. But every minute I learn more and more from his own e-mails. Maybe its because here Snowden, Manning are Hero's. Maybe it's because of my experience in war.”
“Well, we can either prove him right about America by convicting him here and now, or we can prove him wrong by bringing him home and giving him a fair hearing. If there is a price for him to pay for his actions, so be it. But, bottom line, WE do not leave our soldiers to rot with the enemy...regardless. It isn't about him, in this sense, it's about us as a country, and who we really are.”
Marsia on Jun 4, 2014 at 06:17:01
“Exactly. The GOP interference with arranging and setting up (and possibly prompting?) interviews for service members who served with him is just wrong, and I hope it comes back to bite them. I also hope that what those service members are saying now matches up to the military interviews that they had earlier...or they too could find themselves in trouble if called to testify later. There is also footage of the environment at the base, shot by an embedded reporter, which tells of the mayhem at that outpost. There is a lot more here than meets the eye, which should be left for an investigation to bring out; rather than the GOP driving the rush to paint him guilty in the court if public opinion.”
wyldthings on Jun 2, 2014 at 13:42:19
“Not true at all! We have left behind Deserters that join the enemy in every war! Vietnam, Korea, Every war!”
“2016 is not likely BUT 2024 is a distinct possibility”
littleolwinemakerme on Jun 2, 2014 at 22:18:30
“Sen Warren can be much more effective in Congress, we've seen what havoc the Republicans can wreak on a positive thinking President.”
bloomingcolorz on Jun 2, 2014 at 19:54:51
“Dream on. She can't hold a candle to Clinton and would never get the nomination.”
pdxbuckeye on Jun 2, 2014 at 19:26:38
“It will be bad if she does. Obama did nothing to fix the problems in the financial sector. There will be another financial sector drvien collapse in the next term. You do not want Warren getting turfed out because of it, you want her coming in with the political will Obama had behind him in 2008 to do something about it. Unfortunately Obama is an economic Reaganite so nothing was done.
Whover is in office when the collapse hits will be blamed and lose in 2020...that is when we will need Warren.
Since Reaganism began...Financial sector driven collapses have hit 3 times. 1987 S&L crisis, 2000 dotcom IPO fraud collapse (the boom in the 90s was simply pension monies being diverted into unwatched 401ks over inflating the market, by the way), and the 2007-08 Bank Fraud collapse.”
Ben Berry on Jun 2, 2014 at 18:00:49
“she will not run and could not win wake up she is not presidentail at all!”
Razpooten on Jun 2, 2014 at 17:31:50
“Both Warren and Clinton have the GOPers shaking in their boots.”
Pressed Words on Jun 2, 2014 at 16:59:58
“Sorry, but she's not going to get the nomination. She wouldn't even make it past the first round of primaries. She will not play well in the Midwest or South and the GOP would eat her (and Bernie Sanders) as a light snack.
I love her politics, but no. She'd be far better serving in the Senate where she can actually win elections, or perhaps even a cabinet post. There's more of a chance of Ralph Nader or Dennis Kucinich being elected than Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders and I can tell you there's absolutely zero chance of Nader or Kucinich.”
God is water on Jun 2, 2014 at 14:48:57
Interested Party on Jun 2, 2014 at 14:48:47
“Clinton 2016 - Warren 2024.”
jashley on Jun 2, 2014 at 14:48:16
She has my vote if she runs.
tma2c on Jun 2, 2014 at 14:41:52
“It would be so entertaining to see the two cackling women have at it in the primaries. Only thing missing would be the mud or oil. Hope she runs”
jfoster13 on Jun 2, 2014 at 14:14:15
“She would absolutely get my support. I think Hillary should step aside and allow Warren to run.”
“Wrong - he's been trying to fix the problems with the VA ever since he first took office. And, the situation at the VA has only been a secret from those who didn't want to know - they've had these problems for DECADES, so not only did the president know about this...we ALL knew. That is, in part, why this all happened. Local VA administrators were cooking the books BECAUSE they were being told by the president to cut the wait times, and were given incentive bonuses to make it work, but not the funds to actually fix the problems causing the ridiculous waits. Congress did this...not the president. That's why they've been so silent on it...they know this will eventually blow back into THEIR faces.”
“He should resign, but not until after HE fixes this mess. A replacement now would only further delay care delivery to our vets, while the new one tries to figure out what Shinseki already knows. In truth, any real fix to this is going to have to come from Congress - you cannot do what you will not pay for...and that's REALLY the problem. Nothing will fix wait times but more doctors and nurses, and more facilities. However, given GOP support for the ACA...nonexistent, I have little hope they will do anything MORE than fire the General.
Not his fault, and maybe not fixable by anyone (especially in the current political climate), but at least the reality has been exposed - the rest is up to us, I suspect.
Ironically, this may end up putting us one step CLOSER to a single payer system. Wouldn't THAT be a laugh???”
May 28, 2014 at 22:51:12
“Yes, it would make a difference in the case you outline, but in my usage of it, either term will do. I could have called him anything, and it wouldn't change my basic points...only (possibly) lower the tone of the discussion. Bottom line, the kid had problems - I wouldn't ignore what he said, I just wouldn't rely on it.
And, although I get your point about what she was saying...I don't think that's so true, either. To me, that's sort of a chicken and egg type situation. Which came first? Movies, or the human nature they evince? In this case, we know the answer...human nature. Film comes from people...not out of nowhere, it's just, at this point in time, you can't really tease apart the effect from the affected - each feeds on the other.
These attitudes didn't just develop along with the Lumiere Brothers first film back in the 1800's, though...these stories and the attitudes that fostered them to begin, go back millennia. They go back to the first man who was ever killed over a woman (and vice versa), back to the first person who ever felt disrespected, back to the Bible, and way, way beyond. We correlate them now, because we are alive now, and see it for what appears to be the first time, but it's nothing new. The only thing that's changed is the potency of the methods of delivery...whether you're talking about storytelling OR murder, ironically enough.
Good talking - thanks!”
cryofpaine on May 29, 2014 at 03:28:26
“True, it is a chicken/egg scenario. The question at this point though shouldn't be which came first, it's how do we stop it from continuing. If we wanted to make chickens extinct, which is easier, hunting down all the chickens, or smashing the eggs before they are born? We are the chickens, the art we produce are our eggs. It's easier to say "Let's start showing society in a more positive light in our media" than it is to force people to stop being bigoted. Art reflects life, but life just as often reflects art. Just look at the influence pop culture has on our society, in ways big and small. If we show a more inspiring version of society, we can inspire people to be better. Art can show us an ideal to strive for, inspire us to try and make it, and slowly creep into our attitudes to help us make that change in ourselves.”
“No, he's not kidding, and neither am I. In fact, I'd be working on the repeal of the 22nd Amendment, right now, to give him 4 MORE YEARS, if I didn't think we'd already tortured the man more than enough.
Flame away...I couldn't care less.”
Da Grump on May 29, 2014 at 10:55:48
“Thank you for your input. I could care less about it also. We are all entitled to our own opinions. You have yours I have mine. No need to be snippy about it.”
May 28, 2014 at 19:05:05
“I wasn't using the term clinically...only generally, which I think still holds true for the case I made (but you're correct). Still, merely troubled, or completely insane - his judgement was compromised...not the best person for US to judge by.
As far as the rest, she does seem to have made that leap, if only by inference - otherwise there would be even less of a connection - if she wasn't naming it/them as as causal factors...what was the point of even bringing it up?...a quarrel with the killer's production values?
He chose the style/medium of his generation to communicate, but more specifically, he chose video (which she missed, focusing on movies). The Internet is probably a bigger societal factor than film in his choices. He was looking to tell his side of things, and wanted to make sure everyone listened. That's the way it's done today - to get noticed, they have to go big...go viral, or it's just another largely ignored blip in our all-too-violent day to day.
It seems Ms. Hornaday already had an agenda, cinema-wise - a problem with this type of film, and this incident appeared to fit that bill, so she leapt. Even if there is some validity to her argument, presenting it like this does more to deflect and distract from a specific loss of life, than to illuminate our relationship with film.”
cryofpaine on May 28, 2014 at 20:53:46
“True, but the difference between troubled and insane is an important distinction. If he were mentally ill, then yes, this would most likely be the excuse, the spark that ignited the powder keg. But if he was simply troubled, then there has to be more to the situation which would drive him to ignore or not care about what he knew to be right and wrong. I know it's wrong to speed. Usually I don't, but if I am running very late, I will occasionally find myself going a little over the speed limit. That motivation overrides my moral judgement and allows me to justify or not care that I am doing something wrong. The greater the wrong, the greater the motivation.
You can't attribute these actions directly to those movies, but you can attribute his attitudes to those movies, and you can attribute his actions to those attitudes. That is the link. That is why she brought it up. She's not saying the movies directly drove him to do this, but what she's saying is that they fostered this attitude which, in him, manifested as a motivation to commit this tragedy. Like I've said, there wasn't any one thing that caused this. However, we can examine them individually to see what effect they may have had on him, and may be having on others. And now is the time to do that, when everything is fresh. And before it happens again.”
May 28, 2014 at 15:40:23
“Yes, it's a specious argument. Even in your comment, you are taking the diagnosis of the problems of a mentally ill mind, BY that same mentally ill mind as gospel, which OUGHT to be a clue to at least the possibility of just the reverse - that there ISN'T a whole lot here that should be taken at face value.
We may be able to say, "yes, this is what was on his mind him when he completely flipped out." But, in no way does that mean his murderous actions are then, somehow, rationally ATTRIBUTABLE to Judd Apatow, or James Bond movies. How does that even begin to account for his long history of behavioral issues, or even his more common problem...never ACTUALLY "getting the girl" in real life? It doesn't, or at least she never explains exactly how that's supposed to work. That (among other reasons) is why it's specious.
Everything, and everyone reminded this guy how alone he felt...not JUST movies. Even if cinema had never been invented, HE would still have the same issues. This critic's analysis is barely more rational than the murderer, himself...only, HE was mentally ill. The rest of us should probably try to think a bit more clearly before putting it in print.”
cryofpaine on May 28, 2014 at 16:33:04
“In reading about it more, we don't actually know that he was mentally ill. We know he was in therapy. There is a difference. Someone who is mentally ill, at least with regards to this kind of crime, is incapable of distinguishing right from wrong. There's no indication of that here. Nothing to indicate that he was anything other than a shy, awkward, lonely, and depressed individual who was in therapy to treat that.
And if you read her article, she doesn't ever say that his ACTIONS were attributable to those movies. What she says is that the attitude he showed in his videos closely mirror those displayed in these kinds of movies. And you can't deny that. There is a very clear similarity between the attitudes displayed by the characters in movies like this, and his attitudes in his videos.
Yes, he would be reminded of how alone he was. But what he wouldn't have was the pressure to "man up" and go get a girlfriend so he can lose his virginity. He wouldn't have the unreal expectation that girls that look like movie stars should be flocking to him because he's a "nice guy". Certainly you can't lay all the blame at their feet, but they have to take their share of the responsibility in helping to set up the conditions that lead to this.”
May 27, 2014 at 07:49:09
“I don't disagree...just not my taste - a bit too schmaltzy for my personal punk/funk aesthetic. Still, as a fellow musician, I wish him nothing but the very best - not everyone has to please me in order to see their worth...what a boring world THAT would be.”
fahrenheit451 on May 27, 2014 at 10:52:54
“Well said. I felt like the only person in the Universe who didn't care for either Steve Perry or Journey.”
May 27, 2014 at 02:15:32
“Never cared that much for his singing (as good at it as he obviously is, just not my cup of tea...always preferred the actual Sam Cooke). That said, I'm STILL glad he's back, and, I hope, doing VERY well. Rock on, Steve!”
shanester on May 27, 2014 at 06:52:25
“That's what made Steve's voice so unique back in the day. He grew up listening to the late great Sam Cooke as a kid and developed a soulful style which he also incorporated in Journey. He was like an opera singer doing rock with a lot of soul. He is one of a kind and a true vocal legend”