I am quite surprised by the comments --- I thought my original comment was pretty run-of-the-mill, neither deeply supportive of Obama nor antagonistic. Apparently gay and gay supportive people are happier fighting among themselves than they are working against common foes, And some people say just because Obama is the best alternative of all the candidates being discussed for 2012, it means he's a great candidate. He may be the best of the lot, but it's a pretty sorry lot.”
“Young man, I've been around for 60 years. The Republicans haven't changed since the days of Thomas Dewey, and in fact, they've gotten worse. It is just naive of you to suggest that they'll LISTEN to us. The best we can hope for is that they'll keep going further to the right, so even moderate Republicans are uncomfortable around them.”
“Thanks, Mammy, but I'm still not going to thank you and the other Log Cabin Republicans. You joined this party too late in the game and have accomplished far too little to ever be appreciated.
If the LCR really wanted change, why haven't they done more to convince the Party of Hate to which they belong to change their ways. Republicans still vote against more pro-gay issues than Democrats or any other party, except maybe the American Nazi Party.
Log Cabin Republicans will always be a third rate romance, low rent rendezvous, only useful to the Republican Party at election time. Think about that while you're sitting on your back street apartment, waiting by the telephone for your Republican lover, who is married to anti-gay forces, to call.”
Jdaddy1951 on Mar 15, 2011 at 16:31:52
“I believe I DID answer your question, Jason. Sorry if it wasn't the answer you wanted to hear.”
Jason N on Mar 15, 2011 at 14:43:31
“If you'd care to even glance at my posting history, you'd see I'm not LCR, nor a Republican... I only give respect where do, and in the case of DADT, LCR really should get most of the credit.
But nice ad hominem screed to avoid answering the question. Care to, I don't know, try and answer it?”
“Well, that. too. I was thinking specifically what would be an appropriate response for the victims of the crime. I imagine their immediate concern is getting justice for the crime that was perpetrated against them.”
“So, who do you see as an alternative to Obama? A Republican?
I'm not being snarky --- I'm looking for solutions. All the Republican candidates who are being floated seem absolutely unacceptable choices, compared to re-electing Obama. But a second term of Obama isn't exactly an appetizing choice, either.”
fowlersammy on Mar 15, 2011 at 10:42:50
“I disagree. Reelecting Obama is not even an option. He will go down in history as the worst one term president ever, even worse than Carter. You can take that to the bank.”
“Actually, quite a few gay Republicans ARE out of the closet. And they're still working against gay rights. Yeah, they try to take credit for doing this or doing that, but they still haven't convinced their party to love them or vote in support of gay issues. Better they had never come out for all the good they do.”
“Honey, I'm a Baby Boomer. Leave our parents out of it. Think about it --- most of our parents are probably dead or close to it ... give us time, we'll be dead, too, and then we'll see if you have enough votes to pass gay rights legislation.
P.S. A lot of us baby boomers actually have been fighting for gay rights for most of our lives. Remember, it was Baby Boomers who fought the Battle of Stonewall. Suggestion: Don't practice ageism. Your generation wouldn't even be THINKING about gay rights if some of us Boomers hadn't forged a path for you to walk.”
AnotherTry on Mar 15, 2011 at 05:44:38
“Yeah, you boomers really did a number on the world. Thanks.”
“Can't depend on Republicans, either. Only a handful voted to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act. If the LCR is doing so much on behalf of gay marriage, how come they couldn't convince the Republicans in Maryland to pass a marriage bill?
No slaves thanked Mammy for sticking by Scarlett O'Hara. No gay people will thank the Log Cabin Republicans for sticking by the Party of No, the Party of Teabaggers, the Party of Hate.”
RatPack78 on Mar 15, 2011 at 22:00:46
“K buddy, go on despising the Republicans. Yeah, they like to vote against our causes. But do you ever expect them to change unless they get to know us? They may not be changing as fast as you like, but at least there are people trying to get them to change instead of whining about them. Do you think it makes Republicans want to be on our side when gays are constantly bad-mouthing them?”
Jason N on Mar 15, 2011 at 12:10:40
“Would Obama and the Democrats have moved on DADT if it weren't for the court ruling in a case brought by LCR? If you believe they would've, I've got a bridge you might be interested in...”
“I'm not yet willing to go that far. It's pretty clear he's uncomfortable around us. But I think he agrees with the concept of equal rights. But I also think he's a ditherer and inclined to see it as a political issue first rather than just a simple issue of human rights.”
Stephen Stafford on Mar 16, 2011 at 14:23:46
“You posted a simple comment and somehow the responses have devolved into a screaming match between members of the same team. Go figure. I can't.
So I am going to fan you for getting the party started, which is quite different than throwing a bomb. Thought I had fanned you already, though. Anyhow, you stimulated quite the lively discussion.”
“I think many people are less upset about what Ron Schiller said about the Teabaggers than they are the way NPR responded, as it so often does, to these situations --- without a cool head and providing immediate reactions such as firings.
I will not defend any of Schiler's comments --- it was inappropriate for him to say them in his position as an NPR fundraiser, even if they probably are true for the most part. But I suspected that there was more to the story and that NPR reacted too quickly. Ron Schiller would probably have been canned anyway and maybe so would have Vivian Schiller. But NPR, which supposedly prides itself on investigative reporting, should have taken a little more time to investigate the situation.”