“How nice of this chief to only 'suspend' this officer. This officer should have been arrested for, at a minimum, reckless endngerment. It would take little imagination to enhance those charges, which would lead to prison time for this officer.
There was no part of this traffic infringement which could ever have led to deadly force.
The first question to be answered is 'what was the probable cause' for ordering this driver out of the vehicle for a simple speeding violation. This is a violation where the officer receives the license and registration and passes the citation through the window.
The first question regarding probable cause is: 'Was this a DWB speeding offense leading to additional inquiry by these police?'
There should have been more officer arrests by now.”
Retired in va on Dec 6, 2013 at 19:29:14
“No, this woman should still be in jail for her actions. SHE cause the problems.”
overcat on Dec 6, 2013 at 16:17:01
“Context matters regarding the actions of the original officer who pulled her over. The full video of the initial stop shows a reasonably patient officer dealing with a rather argumentative and uncooperative person for quite some time, who is still behind the wheel of her vehicle. Then she flees. Then when she's stopped again, she STILL resists, then flees again, after her kid scuffles with the cop. This all happened before Officer Triggerhappy fired his gun.”
kishiknows on Dec 6, 2013 at 15:43:08
“my first speeding ticket i was told to sit in the back of the police car since i didn't have my registration on me. in hindsight it was ridiculous... i was a young co-ed girl on my way home from working a double shift late at night and a muscular male officer ordered me out without an accompanying female officer. i was young and naive but i should've stayed in my vehicle until a female officer was present. bottom line is cops more often than not act with impunity and expect their badge to clear them.”
Homophobia is, by and large, gone among young people. They do not understand this hate any more than they understand or tolerate the Jim Crow laws of the Confederate South well into the 1960s. So, it (DADT) may be well accepted within the lower ranks - including the bottom of the pyramid - the lowly enlisted. It is not well accepted in the officer corps. And, the higher the rank, the less accepted. In short, one million Privates do not outrank one general.
The Air Force, especially at the Academy, has become unacceptably worse because of this garbage evangelicalism. But the Army and the Air Force were required to come up the most hateful of the services - the Navy - as it pertained to homophobia.
It is an ongoing tragedy, and not anywhere near over. That cadet is right. And he should not plan an 'out' career in his U.S. Air Force.”
AllenMcw on Nov 21, 2013 at 22:12:08
“I did not say there wasn't a problem but I also don't think it is as widespread as you are implying.
Hey, we're on the same side here. I'm gay and I myself served in the Air Force for 10 years.
And I don't doubt for a second that many higher ranking older officers are homophobic. What they "feel" inside we obviously cannot do anything about. But they are also officers in the military who are trained to follow orders and these orders come all the way from the top.
So yes there are problem and yes there is homophobia especially among the older officers like you said. That does not necessarily translate to an attempt on their part to undermine the repeal of DADT. Any officer, even a General who is found to be openly defying this order would be at risk of losing their commission and being kicked out of the military.
So absolutely we need to work through these issues as they come up and do it as quickly as possible and with no mercy on those people found to be defying this order. I think Hagel is very serious about enforcing this and will deal harshly with those found to be defying it.”
“Anyone who believes that the end of DADT would welcome gays in the military is a fool.
As I have said on many occasions - they (the military heirarchy) may not be able to throw you out - but they certainly know how to get you out.
It will take another half-century to get over the homophobia of the military branches.
Meanwhile - it's still OK to rape and assault.”
Plasma002 on Nov 21, 2013 at 22:18:32
“The first rape of a straight man by a gay should result in the gay receiving the ultimate penalty...”
Robert Eckert on Nov 21, 2013 at 20:56:16
“The Air Force Academy is not the entirety of the military. It has been an enclave of Christian extremists for years now, and unfortunately that culture cannot really be expected to change until a whole generation grows old and retires.”
AllenMcw on Nov 21, 2013 at 20:33:20
“There will almost certainly be pockets of resistance but by far and large it has been accepted very well and has gone smoothly overall. There have also been many, many stories of heterosexual Soldiers, Marines, etc who have come out openly and applauded the repeal of DADT and reiterated that all they care about is that the person does their job.”
The firing officer should be charged with reckless endangerment.
You do like we do here in California - follow this vehicle. Eventually it's all over - including disabling the vehicle with metal strips to destroy tires - or the vehicle runs out of gasoline - or the driver reconsiders.
The major crimes here were committed by the aggressive police. There should be substantial discipline here.”
TXfemmom on Nov 18, 2013 at 20:41:11
“He fired at a care which was fleeing, therefore it could not be construed the lives of the police were in danger, and the police were aware there were innocent children in that car. It certainly seems he should face some kind of charges.
“Certain types of People are always looking for shallow reasons to stiff a waiter or waitress of a tip. This tip should have been a minimum of $15 - perhaps $20 if a good tip.
One doesn't leave a tip based on one's opinion of the appearance of a service provider. One leaves a tip based on the quality of service.
Since this customer was not in agreement with who the employer should have hired in order to meet the appearance requirements of the customer, this customer should never return to this restaurant - and the owner should preclude their return.
And, the owner should give the tip to the waiter / waitress.”
Catherine in Tulsa on Nov 14, 2013 at 16:26:49
“my aunt tried this BS years ago - she told us that she couldn't afford to tip - my mother got her straight and said "then you can't afford to eat out".”
lori76 on Nov 14, 2013 at 16:22:01
“No the owner should not give a tip to the waitress..
the owner has no control what a customer does or says. belive me ive seen alot worse then this note”
They're old, retired, on Medicare, white, well-off and happy with their Medigap policy which covers what Medicare does not.”
PropRules on Nov 14, 2013 at 16:58:57
“They're people who worked hard for forty plus years, invested and saved long for retirement, paid taxes for Medical entitlements, pay for additional coverage not to burden the state, and are white and happy as they deserve to be. Maybe racist and free loaders like yourself should learn by watching and following their agenda...”
cost2 on Nov 14, 2013 at 16:16:20
“Based on the poll numbers you have the demographics wrong.”
“Are these natural disasters becoming larger and larger - and more and more often?
You bet they are. Just like the climate experts predicted - more and bigger storms on the horizon.
And the cost in money? They are quickly becoming so substantial that many governments will be unable to provide the financial assistance to return to some form of normalcy. Clearly that will be the case in this current storm.
One statistic of this storm is if it made land along the Atlantic Ocean of the United States, it would have stretched from Southern Florida to Southern Canada.
What can be said of strident climate-deniers? They will be dead by the time that the full effects of climate change will have arrived to bring immense damage to life and property on a regular basis and for which little help will be arriving.”
“Senator Rand Paul apparently does not understand exactly what he plagiarized.
He did not plagiarize the author of these various stories.
He did not plagiarize the screen-writer of the movie lines.
He did plagiarize Wikipedia. He lifted the lines and words verbatim from the various encyclopedia articles which he spoke about - such as Gattica.
The authors of the various Wikipedia articles which Senator Paul quoted verbatim were certainly not the authors of the books or screen scripts for which Senator Paul now wishes us to believe that he has given adequate notice of what he was quoting from.”
“Michael Jackson had been using Propofol for years prior to the arrival of Dr. Conrad Murray.
Michael Jackson was a fatal accident waiting to happen under the right circumstances for years prior to the arrival of Dr. Conrad Murray.
Michael Jackson's sleep problems had been correctly diagnosed long before the arrival of Dr. Conrad Murray - with the method of beating this problem without additional drugs or interventions (MJ was a multiple-drug addict) but refused to follow that advice - and to get off Propofol as a sleep-aid.
Dr. Conrad Murray's error was to take the job and to assist MJ in his never-ending quest for drugs, sleep-assistance. He got up in MJ's addictions and got blamed for MJ's death.
And still, MJ's mother insists that Dr. Conrad Murray killed her addicted son.
It's all too outrageous, and, once again, shows how injustice is regularly meted out to defendants in the justice system.”
“You know much too little about security and blackmail.
This very-high-ranking Naval Officer was certainly subject to blackmail and became a security risk when his fraud in gambling became known. And, he was in a very high security position as well.
If he used counterfeit gambling chips, he has likely been in gambling trouble for some time already. That's why he used counterfeit chips - he was already broke. Perhaps in debt to the scum that lends money to gamblers with conditions attached.
Your slander of the POTUS is over the top. I am glad to have 'flagged' your message as abusive.”
Diane7 on Oct 9, 2013 at 20:40:03
“Since when is the truth considered slander? Did you say that when you libs spoke against Bush? Typical lib hypocrisy!!!”
“I've said a number of times already that the NYPD has a lot of explaining to do since there were at least three members of the NYPD in the group of cyclists - and not a one did anything.
Now we find out that one, in fact, did something - participated in the thuggery of the cyclists. No assistance for the driver of this SUV from this sworn officer.
Once this officer participated in this mischief, he was an instigator of additional mischief and thuggery.
There might have been good reasons why he was not carrying his weapon - as required by the NYPD on a 24/7 basis. There might have been good reasons why, as an undercover officer, he should not render assistance.
There was no reason why he should participate in these criminal actions.
He should be arrested and prosecuted.”
Comeonman1 on Oct 9, 2013 at 09:27:12
“Actually, when it comes to protecting the public an undercover officer must do so no matter what happens to his cover.”
guest 7 on Oct 8, 2013 at 21:42:56
“Under cover cops are required to carry 24/7? That doesn't sound right. Sounds like it could easily blow their cover.”
guest 7 on Oct 8, 2013 at 21:19:21
“Undercover cops are required to carry a duty weapon 24/7?”
“So, when Mr. Consuegra called the police, was that call #4? There were reports of the occupants of the SUV having called '911' at least three times during the entire sequence of events, starting on the West Side Highway, and continuing onto local streets.
So, the question no one seems yet to have answered is this: WHERE WERE THE POLICE?
This sequence of events on the streets of New York certainly lasted more than 5 minutes, with no response whatever by the NYPD.
I've said it before - and now emphasize it even more: THE NYPD HAS LOTS OF EXPLAINING TO DO.
That includes three officers who are required to carry weapons 24/7 within the group of cyclists - and - the failure of the police to respond to this assault over a period of miles over city streets.”
macungieman on Oct 7, 2013 at 16:49:20
“There were police on scene....off duty bikers. As far as on duty cops, they can't be everywhere 100% of the time.”
Twitchy Ferret on Oct 7, 2013 at 16:37:03
“As they say, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.”
Sibil on Oct 7, 2013 at 16:14:31
“There was an undercover COP riding with the motorcyclists.”
Tyger Purr on Oct 7, 2013 at 16:05:56
“I think you are grossly overestimating the capability of the police.”
Logic Please on Oct 7, 2013 at 16:04:32
“"Where were the police?"
The police, contrary to your apparent suggestions, don't have a magic transporter in which they instantly appear wherever they are needed. Unlike Superman, they don't stand on tall building listening for bad stuff and swoop in. They have to A: get a call B: figure out where it is...and C: DRIVE THERE. ON STREETS. IN CARS. Sometimes this takes a few minutes, especially when the location of the crime is constantly changing, and the people reporting it may not give the best directions.
The police in the gang were undercover and feared blowing their cover if they acted like cops. You do know how that works.....don't' you? (seeing that you seem to be an expert on police work, after all)”
Chpach67 on Oct 7, 2013 at 16:03:10
“You would think one of the officers in the mob of bikers would break away and make a call or text someone. On the morning news show it was said one of them worked in Internal Affairs. I would be interested in hearing the 911 calls. There's definitely a lot of explaining to do.”
DoD has called back approximately 400,000 civilians under an old law. Only about 400,000 to go.
House of Representatives voted today to pay those who have been laid-off - and starting to collect unemployment - for the period during which they were effectively placed on 'paid vacation' while the government is shut down.
And, in the Republican goal of shrinking government to be so small that it can be drowned in a bath tub and flushed away, the House Republicans are offering to open parts of the like 'one from column A, one from column B' method. So, like the wildly effective sequester which has cut lots of government spending, this method of opening parts of government will likely permanently shutter certain parts of government.
Who says that the Republicans have not been wildly successful in their efforts to cut costs, cut deficits, cut programs (all for the poor), shrink government?
They have been wildly successful during this President's tenure. So much for national elections.”
“There were at least three calls to '911' by the occupants of the SUV.
The distance from start on the West Side Hwy to end on local streets was at least three miles.
The very first questions on the morning after included: 'Where were the Police?'
Something is quite clear - like the propensity of the NYPD to infiltrate all sort of groups - the police were, in fact, right there with the cyclists.
We might eventually know why this off-duty undercover officer, who is required to carry a weapon, did nothing. Nothing.
Now the question becomes why didn't the other officers in the group of cyclists do anything, either.
In short, police did nothing. It was people of the Washington Heights neighborhood who came to the assistance of the SUV driver.
The NYPD has lots to answer for in this matter.”
Wrench Turner on Oct 5, 2013 at 19:44:53
“You're not required to carry a weapon undercover or off duty in the NYPD, or any other agency in New York that I know of. Most cops do, but if you're going out for drinks or whatever you're not going to bring that with you.”
rikilii on Oct 5, 2013 at 18:50:30
'Where were the Police?'
The police are almost never there to protect anyone directly. They usually just show up in time to clean up the mess or arrest the guilty.
yndew64 on Oct 5, 2013 at 18:32:48
“Thank's for nothing, New York's finest. If they watched this and did nothing they deserve to lose their jobs and pensions.”
beherenow54 on Oct 5, 2013 at 18:14:02
“They do nothing when needed (while riding in the very gang that is assaulting an innocent driver), but have no problem stopping and frisking anyone they want. Democracy state at its finest.”