“Well, I'm sure I don't know as much as you do, but I have worked in health care for 50 years and my husband is a physician. The 700 million isn't being taken away from Medicare patients. That was adjusted because it was a duplication of services and there is no reason to allot funds both places.
Please cite references for your statement that every president has raided the program as I am unable to locate that info. It is true that they have a schedule of payments allowed to physicians but that isn't the source of most of the fraud and there are serious penalties for fraudulent billing.”
cza2129 on Nov 9, 2013 at 02:17:52
“The Social Security and Medicare Trust Funds in FACT are EMPTY, they are backed by US Treasury Bonds, which are propped up by a Federal reserve that is printing BORROWED money (QE1, 2 and now 3) with all the baby boomers retiring and not enough young people to fund the system going forward, in essence it is an unfunded liability as we speak, or actually broke already. When presidents submit budgets they INCLUDE the treasury Bonds in their calculations as ASSETS and "use" them to balance their spread sheets. This president won't even submit a budget, and thats why we go from one budget crisis to another, and have added 7 trillion to the debt since HE took office...and YOU believe HIS ACA is going to be a money saver? LOL.”
cza2129 on Nov 9, 2013 at 02:04:53
“Truth - The $716 Billion spending cuts in future Medicare will be used to offset the cost of Obamacare. That will not extend the life of the Medicare trust fund. The "coffee budget" example used by Factcheck is ridiculous. In essence it says "If you have a fixed coffee budget and you switch from a daily latte to regular coffee your coffee budget will last longer." Wow, no kidding! The problem is you're getting a lesser product. Not only that, but if I spend $30 on latte each month, then decide to spend $20 on regular coffee and $10 on donuts, I'm still spending $30 on my coffee budget. If the $716 Billion were kept in the trust fund, then yes, the life of the trust fund would be extended. You can't spend it and say you're saving it at the same time. It's the same old Obama math.”
“You should look at who you're talking about. The elderly, those in nursing homes, single mothers and military personnel who make so little that they qualify for welfare and food stamps.
Most of those who receive help already work 40 hour weeks, but you would rather think they are living a great life on your tax money. The facts don't support that belief.”
ranger197172 on Nov 8, 2013 at 23:17:40
“You should learn to read. I am retired military and already said i could see people who work for a living getting help when needed. My complaint is with those who will not work and illegals who i do believe are entitled to any help in this country. I can't see rewarding criminals or those too lazy to work for a living.”
“You could be right...but it would change the whole picture of our country. I still believe that I am my brothers keeper, but I give a lot to charities and I will continue to do so.”
Deborah G on Nov 10, 2013 at 09:22:43
“I agree with that we donate 30% of our disposible income to charity and we have adopted in need children,take care of a disabled person in the area,and support Fisher House, St Jude's and Wounded Arriors.That being said Government should NOT be in the CHARITY business or the Healthcare business.”
“The Pharmaceutical companies fund most of that to the tune of 1 billion dollars a day. We have also benefitted from research from Germany and the Scandinavian countries. My husband has worked in that area for some years and I'm well aware of where those monies come from.”
“Because medical bills were and are still the number one reason for bankruptcy and the economy was falling apart. Any honest person could see that we couldn't keep on the way we were. Yes, there had to be a change!! People can't keep paying $4,000 for admission blood work and x-rays before any treatment even begins.”
“It has worked well with Medicare. The states haven't, historically, done a very good job either. I have worked with both state and federal and it's pathetic when the state gets low on food and patients get 1/2 of an egg and 1/2 of a piece of toast for breakfast. Granted, that was a number of years ago, but there is lots of theft at the local level too.”
cza2129 on Nov 8, 2013 at 21:20:26
“It works well with Medicare? LOL. You are talking about a program that limits what it pays to doctors, causing a great deal of fraud, number 1. Number 2, it is a program that has been raided by almost every president since it's inception, Obama is taking 700 Million out to fund the ACA. Clinton did so to "balance" his budget. The program has had to raise the age of qualification several times so it didn't go bankrupt, and is STILL projected to do so every 10 years. You really don't know very much about it's history do you?”
“I am amazed at the number of people that try scare tactics to upset everyone who is waiting and in need of coverage. We could not continue the way we were with cost going up so rapidly. I understand that this is all very hard to understand but the media has worked hard to get people more upset.
I have worked in an ER for a number of years and the cost per patient is unsustainable. We cannot keep spending $4,000 for admission labs, etc. More than 50% of my patients are nonpayers and shouldn't be treated as emergency admissions. You have to pay those bills. Don't think that the hospital just "writes it off."”
veloci1 on Nov 7, 2013 at 21:37:24
“OK, so maybe you don't read anything, but the ACA is NOT designed to control health care COSTS!”
“We are talking about the insurance lobby that is controlling way too much about health care and heath care costs that equal 17% of every dollar we have. We are concerned about the part of the population that is uninsurable and those whose insurance could be cancelled when they cap out.
We are living in a country that gives billions of dollars to countries that have no accountability to anyone, and you believe that taking care of our own translates into a government that solves every problem we have?? Puleeze!”
ssnwbrd on Nov 9, 2013 at 08:21:43
“The insurance lobby wrote the bill...”
how did that happen on Nov 8, 2013 at 21:50:39
“So the only way to fix something is to have the government do it?
Please name just ONE program that the government runs that is not full of fraud, waste and crony capitalism..”
Deborah G on Nov 8, 2013 at 19:56:30
“We should fund neither.”
Conservative Notion on Nov 8, 2013 at 12:51:59
“You named the problem up front.
We are living in a country that gives billions of dollars to countries that have no accountability to anyone.”
cza2129 on Nov 8, 2013 at 10:37:23
“Yeah so lets give all that "control" (1/6th of our economy) to the government, they do such a GREAT job at running things. I'm sure they won't ABUSE that power...All the money being spent on this debacle could have been GIVEN to states to expand THEIR OWN Medicaid programs thus covering these uninsured you speak of. Are you really that naive as to think that this about insuring those people? It's about government consolidating MORE power over our lives, it's an affront to our individual liberties disguised as a "feel good" moment. Wake Up.”
PL02 on Nov 8, 2013 at 09:05:57
“Nicely put Lilli917!
And btw, baker900 doesn't seem to realize that no one but the repub/cons want crazed gun wheeling, religious, bigoted fanatics who don't care about anyone but themselves taking over our country.”
haydav49 on Nov 8, 2013 at 08:21:18
“So you would rather have the government control that 17% on top of everything else they control. I bet you're one of the takers.”
xgomazx on Nov 8, 2013 at 08:08:48
“You are aware that even Obamacare has limits right?
For example The "Bronze package" under Obamacare Which will likely be the most popular package because it provides for the least immediate out of pocket expenses only provides for 60% of costs. The rest will still be on you.”
ConservativebyNature on Nov 8, 2013 at 07:35:05
“Really? What % of the population is uninsurable?”
robboni1 on Nov 8, 2013 at 07:34:34
“So you would rather have the incompetents in Washington put their hands further into our pockets. Puleeeze!”
amybeth23456 on Nov 8, 2013 at 06:26:05
“Its called socialism and it falls when there is no more money for the rich to give to the poor. I make my own money, Id like to pay and buy my own ins. Guess doesnt bother you that in some states a person can get over 40,000 in freebies. Why work then.”
Kimiko Austin-Rijs on Nov 8, 2013 at 05:22:04
“That you even had to explain this only demonstrates how willfully stupid so many Americans are. Yet they wonder why so many people in the world consider them dumb.”
Cynic7 on Nov 7, 2013 at 23:49:19
“Not when others are penalized in the process. What you are supporting is helping some and in turn hurting others. If they put the ACA plan in place and those who had insurance that was good insurance (contrary to the president's mantra and that of the sycophant Dem's many who are losing their plans and doctors have good plans not garbage plans.) could keep their plans, then I do not believe there would be as much outrage, except for the fact that the online system s*cks.”
alohageedub on Nov 7, 2013 at 23:34:03
“Insurance companies are regulated by State's, you have a beef, then talk to your State government. You don't want a cap, don't buy a policy with one. You should still be concerned about those uninsurables, some will just pay the fine, then if they get a serous medical condition, just buy insurance then. Ridculous.”
ffjsb on Nov 7, 2013 at 22:48:16
“So you want the GOVERNMENT TO CONTROL IT ALL????? Since when has the government done anything cheaper and better than private industry??”
Duddly Dooright on Nov 7, 2013 at 22:35:50
“you like having innovative ways to fight cancer, AIDs and other diseases? that research must be paid for. pathetic.”
tchuy03 on Nov 7, 2013 at 22:18:53
“Lilli, turn off MSDNC, go outside and get some fresh air.”
tdhammond1 on Nov 7, 2013 at 22:02:08
“I half way, believe what you say.”
DefyGravity on Nov 7, 2013 at 21:38:32
“This started out as supposedly going to close the loop holes so people could have access no matter what state they were in and not be denied due to preconditions....all that was needed were reforms on tort laws, etc. What did he do instead? He made it manditory or be punished, created rules/ regulations to back end pay for his bill while proclaiming it wouldn't be expensive, promised you'd keep your plan/dr while knowing back in 2010 from his own IRS that people would lose their plans due to his regulations for HIS idea of plan, etc and now he's trying to back track and say he didn't say what he said and he's sorry people are in this situation...PULEEZE..he created the situation and still doesn't admit it...his goal is a one payer system and that to the gov...his socialist gem of total control...”
1stlttightwad1 on Nov 7, 2013 at 21:19:04
“Guess you don't realize it is not about health care..It's about control..The same control as when you have reign over a persons food, shelter and clothing and yes health(medicade). Ya just don't get it..”
Blackstone3 on Nov 7, 2013 at 21:07:29
“Actually you are talking about 320 million Americans whose costs are getting jacked up to help a very small number of people. You are talking about men having to carry maternity coverage. You are talking about sane people having to carry mental health coverage. You are talking about steep jumps in cost. You are talking about 1/6 of the US economy which the President lied about repeatedly.”
anvil6 on Nov 7, 2013 at 20:47:06
“Soon we will yearn for the good old days, when we "only" spent 17% of our dollar on health care. When the Government gets involved in an enterprise, efficiency goes out the window. Without massive infussions of new "revenue" - we call that "tax" in my neck of the woods - or fundemental changes in how health CARE (not insurance) is delivered to those who need it, ObamaCare is unsustainable.”
ranger197172 on Nov 7, 2013 at 20:31:46
“Those we are giving to in our country are those too lazy to work for a living. The tax payers are fed up with having to support them.”
marty ge on Nov 7, 2013 at 20:01:34
“So it seems that perhaps we should STOP giving billions to other countries. Since we can't afford to do that AND fund this debacle.”
“I'm not sure why we should keep caring. If the sight of the horrible situation in Newtown with a class of first graders slaughtered mercilessly doesn't effect any change, why should we care when more of us meet the same fate? We watch the funerals, send money to those who promise to make changes and then we sit back and notice that nothing happens. John Boehner looks into the camera lens with his bleery eyes and fake tan and tells us that the GOP will help us, but we dare not hope too much and he upholds the right to bear arms. The President gives a speech telling us that those people and their families deserve our love and support...but nothing changes!
I suppose I'm not as savvy about the constitution as the NRA but we can't keep losing our families to the grave so some old guy can go out and get a deer once a year.
Now, another twelve families will bury their dead and all the media wants me to listen and care. This is nonsense!!
Lets all buy a bazooka or drone of our own and blast anybody who steps on our grass. It seems like that will be the only thing to please the NRA and the GOP.”
marilyn 63 on Sep 17, 2013 at 23:13:41
“Obama said he has done all he can do to ask for the congress to bring common sense gun laws over and over even after every tragedy which they(house) ignore. now its up to congress not him(Obama) to pass these laws but we have tea-GOP in the house that ignore any bill but OBAMA CARE 42 times.(it's law it's not Obama any more speak about the house and Bohener,”