“That's a bit contradictory. If you grant that teachers are authority figures (and I guess they have to be to be able to do their job) then insubordination or disobeying an authority figure is a real issue. Why give them authority and then say it's ok for the students to disregard that authority?
Many of these slips are hilarious and some are rather disturbing but some, despite the poor implementation of the punishment, are probably for very good reasons. Calling the teacher a muggle is hilarious but if the student is doing these hilarious things all the time that could be disrupting the class and making it harder for the teacher to do his/her job. I'm NOT a teacher but I feel for many of them.
But I do agree that a pattern of detentions given for insubordination is a little suspect. There has to be something more to it. It makes me feel that more student-directed learning and less "teacher as authoritative spewer of facts" education models are needed. But that's not going to happen any time soon.”
DingoBuzzy on Apr 5, 2012 at 12:15:24
“Sorry, authority does not equal autocracy by virtue of title. If the insubordination is directly the result of violating a separate policy, then insubordination is not necessary as justification for disciplinary action.
The simple act of insubordination, in and of itself, is not cause for disciplinary action. It has to be related to a violation of some other kind in order to remain valid. Otherwise, the concept of scholastic authority is simply a license to behave without reproach, without having to justify the behavior you dictate students follow.”
“I do NOT want a doctor misspelling the prescription she writes up for me. lol”
JuliaOceania on Apr 5, 2012 at 13:20:56
“Doctors rarely even write scripts these days, they phone them in, or their nurses do...
I was speaking of all sorts of doctors... people with phd after their name. I was in grad school, I know of many doctors that were so caught up with their ideas they needed editors to solve their grammar issues...”
“What's funny about that? Oh right, we pay our teachers so little. That IS funny. HAHAHA!!!”
PermanentVacancy on Apr 5, 2012 at 14:31:20
“So little? They average 40,000 and up and they have weekends, holidays and 2 months in the summer off!! Try working in a hospital sometime!”
kidrooms on Apr 5, 2012 at 08:55:39
“No...that's not funny, just that the kids who sometimes aren't the best students because they don't fit in a little box that our educational system puts them in, tend to be pretty successful and think and act beyond making certain grades or learning for a test....I love great teachers. Have supported them for 18 yrs ...lighten up Matthew2.”
“This is capitalism in theory. No human being or organization can have completely pure, unwavering focus on any one goal. Yes, profit is always a very influential variable. But many industries have other important goals as well: quality product, social accountability, competition for it's own sake, etc. Even if they can be seen as contributing to profit indirectly or in the future, they very often cloud and compete with the pure profit goal.
And even if that were not true, even if businesses could aim solely at profit, these are human beings doing the aiming. We can only strive for goals through our limited understanding of how to achieve them. If some CEO thinks that profit is best achieved by hiring only men, then it's hardly self-regulating. The company may not be doing as well as it could by hiring women but it's not guaranteed that the company will fail immediately upon adopting the men-only rule.
Also, many people snicker behind new hire's backs even when they are perfectly qualified. Many people are jerks.”
“I don't think the point was that there are NO qualified women but rather that the majority of qualified people are male. That's certainly possible if not guaranteed in some industries, right?
And hiring committees don't try to find just any qualified person but rather the best person they can get for their salary. With a higher percentage of men, it's more likely that the best choice will be a man. That doesn't mean that they chose him for his gender.”
“Yeah! Let us sleep in the gutter with a broken nose in peace, DOH! My health is none of your concern!”
Sean Foley on Dec 1, 2010 at 16:50:47
“Wow, sounds like someone had a crappy night. Who would leave their friend lying in a gutter? Unless you go drinking alone, in which case you DO have a problem. Not as big a problem as that mustache however.”