“Sure, but you're late to the game. Entire denominations -- the Metropolitan Community Church, United Church of Christ, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Episcopal Church, Presbyterian Church USA and others, representing together millions of Americans -- have already done this. Most of us now welcome gay people as members of our churches, ordain them to our pulpits, and will bless their unions. Some of us have done it for years, for others it's fairly new and we're still working out the details. But we're way beyond petitions.”
SayBlade on May 3, 2012 at 11:42:27
“Add the Alliance of Baptists and The Baptist Peace Fellowship of North America and its partner churches who fully support, welcome and affirm LGBT.
There are Baptists have been working on this since the early 1990s.
“So, what, now -- everybody with an opinion gets to rebut the State of the Union? And on CNN? That's great, because I've got a blog and like three regular readers, including Mom. I had no idea that gave me equal weight with the Republican Party, but I'll take it.”
RDWidner on Jan 27, 2011 at 08:29:50
“A Congresswoman isn't everyone. What an elected official thought of the speech is certainly relevant and newsworthy.”
“I couldn't agree less. It's two blocks away; should nobody ever again have fun within two blocks of the WTC site? What about five blocks, or ten? For that matter, making money is a pretty crass thing to do in near proximity to the site of a mass murder. Do we shut down the Stock Exchange?”
“Or maybe there's absolutely no reason for a state law to restrict the sale of wooden boxes. Why compromise with a cartel when you can mobilize public opinion to defeat it in the courts or, better yet, the legislature?”
“Wait. She didn't read the thing, but they arrested and fined her anyway? How does that work?
And does anybody else have some doubts about a court declaring an action that is otherwise legal (under Israel's basically secular laws, setting aside the religious ones) to be illegal "because it could incite ultra-Orthodox Jews to violence"? I think its supposed to work the other way: if the ultra-Orthodox, or anybody else, commit acts of violence, they get arrested and put in jail.”
itsjustanillusion on Jul 14, 2010 at 12:11:19
“You know, those laws, the ones that are supposed to protect us. They look good on paper and sound good when you read them out loud, but to put it to practice, well, lets pick and choose. We don't want the criminals to get mad at us.”
AdamWright on Jul 14, 2010 at 04:32:42
“Israel is not known for it's just policies regarding religious freedom. See: East Jerusalem.”
“The headline is a bit misleading, mostly because of that second comma. The (Lutheran) Church of Sweden ordained a lesbian bishop in 2009. Some Anglican bishops refused to attend her ordination. http://www.thelocal.se/23074/20091104/”
“As a Lutheran pastor, I am grateful for your kind words. But the phrase "the rest of the fundamentalist world" may be misleading to readers unfamiliar with the customary language for describing American churches. The ELCA cannot in any reasonable way be described as "fundamentalist." And in any case, the sort of steps that we have taken are unlikely to be followed by anybody who does fit that description. it is really the rest of the "mainline" churches that are working through many of the same questions, and some of which may find parallel solutions.”
Vinlander on Apr 19, 2010 at 15:29:46
“Pastor Mike is right. The ECLA is about as fundamentalist as the Episcopalians, that is , not at all. While I gave up on Christianity a while ago, my Lutheran upbringing did give me a few good moral rules I still try to live by -- loving neighbors, judging not, doing unto the least.
OK, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, are you going to let the Lutherans be the only real Christians?”