“It should be noted and just to be clear, AFA is not necessarily planning to not buy Harvey Milk stamps or refuse mail with said stamps affixed... They are recommending that their followers do these things.”
“I wouldn't say Christian theology says they will all be eternally damned... Rather, the Bible thumpers that imagine themselves to be 'theologians' (but relying on the King James version) are the ones making such noise.”
mrovin1 on May 24, 2014 at 08:26:38
“I dunno. Jesus quotes such as these seem pretty clear.
"Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell."Matthew 10:28)"
Mark 9:43-48 says, "And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Matthew 25:46, "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
“Excuse me, please don't paint all Christians with the same brush! Especially a brush of bigotry. I am a Christian. I am an LGBTQ ally. I am a minister. I too look forward to the day when we don't have to use the term "same sex marriage" and can describe that relationship as "marriage."”
“If it were the Government throwing the slushie, then it could be construed as an affront to her 1st Amendment rights. Since it was not the Government throwing the slushie, it was a simple criticism of her opinion...”
Daniel Berman on Jun 19, 2014 at 10:24:14
“You're right. It really has nothing to do with the first amendment. But it is still assault.”
“Being 'tolerant' of 'intolerance' is not an acceptable position. Same-sex attraction and affection is a natural occurrence; bigotry, discrimination, and insensitive comments are all learned behavior and must not be accepted or 'tolerated.'”
“But therein lies the problem... People like LaBarbera and Brian Brown treat the LGBTQ community as being "less than." And they do so by minimizing or by demonizing. So to say that "equality" is like nails on a chalkboard, seems to also be a way of minimizing those who struggle with being treated as "the other."
Besides, the GOP has non-marriage equality statements in 43 out of 50 state GOP platforms (and of course the national GOP platform). So I don't think the word "equality" is at issue, I would hazard a guess that treating the LGBTQ couples the same way that straight couples are treated... ensuring that the same constitutional rights apply to all is contrary to GOP thinking and action.”
“I find it fascinating that the Governor, "Butch" Otter, is going to appeal the case because all of the people who voted to ban same sex marriages are somehow losing their rights... Their rights to what? To discriminate? To treat what they perceive as "the other" as being less than? Their rights to be bigots?”
“"I'm not sure if this is a religious freedom claim or a publicity stunt," said Russell Moore..."
"Religious liberty is something different," said Moore. "It's when there is an infringement that happens on people's right to dissent to same-sex marriages. We are concerned with people being forced to participate in those ceremonies, which we see with cases of florists, photographers and others across the country."
Minimizing and demonizing... two common techniques used by Moore and folks like him. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS.”
“I wish that they expanded the headline a bit so instead of "7 Careers Christians May... " it said "7 Careers Bigoted, Anti-Gay, Homophobic, Un-Loving Christians May... At least it would be more accurate...”
“It is amusing (but not in a good way) that Graham has named "being gay" as a sin, but identifies himself as a generic sinner. He also states that he has repented from sin (but not from 'bearing false witness' IMHO), and is forgiven, so he is going to heaven... but who has done the forgiving? Finally, it probably escapes him that relationships, be they straight or gay, are based in love, and God is all about love.”
“You know, if the GOP were to consider marriage equality and citizen equality with reference to the 14th Amendment to the Constitution with the same fierceness that they look at gun ownership with reference to the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution, we would not be having this discussion...”
“Chartering organizations are responsible for finding/developing the adult leadership in the various scouting programs. As more chartering organizations start honoring their own practices and beliefs, we will start seeing more scout leaders from the LGBTQ community, and more scout groups have their charter pulled by the BSA. My feeling is that this does not bode well for the BSA... churches, rotary groups, schools, etc. will build on what was done by the Seattle UMC and affirm and stand by their leaders. Notice that the Seattle church did not force the BSA out of the church by dropping the charter, rather they said "no" to discrimination.”
“So should female Scoutmasters/Assistant Scoutmasters be allowed to take young men (more than likely her son included) on camping trips? Since the BSA does not show any discrimination against straight women serving as leaders, they think "yes."
Also, the BSA does use a "two-deep leadership" model which, as the name implies, there are always at least two leaders working with the troop, to protect both the troop members as well as the reputation of the leaders.
Members of disliked groups (like the LGBTQ community) are often stereotyped as representing a danger to those who are vulnerable. There is no link to being gay and being a child molester.
I think the BSA is wrong in their discrimination against adult members of the LGBTQ community. The BSA is struggling to find adult leaders to facilitate the scouting program at all levels (Tigers, Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, and Venturing). So to discriminate against a young man's two moms will ultimately hurt the BSA. Also, as more and more of the BSA's chartering organizations become open and affirming of the LGBTQ community, there will be more cases like the one in this article.”
“So, according to Ms. Schlafly, all women are 'gold-diggers' by nature (hypregamy) and if they make a lot of money, the pack thins as to whom they can choose for mates... If I were a woman, I would be highly insulted. However, since I am simply a man, I will continue to wonder why women would listen to Ms. Schlafly as mean spirited as she is!?!”