“I am a tea partier myself. Given the only choice is liable to be between extending unemployment, and my plan, I think they would prefer my plan. I think they would like the idea that people would not get the benefit unless they get a real private sector job. It is much better than paying people to sit at home doing nothing.”
forrealwatches on Nov 18, 2013 at 23:15:15
“Then as a Progressive and a Dem we can agree that some things just don't work anymore.”
“Thanks for the endorsement, its nice to know somebody out there is reading and paying attention.”
forrealwatches on Nov 18, 2013 at 00:07:44
“That is the best way to handle the problem. I don't understand why the Tea Party, GOP, and the Dems do not support this. I would rather work than take the small dollars from unemployment especially when jobs are few, and good paying jobs more scarce.”
“You assume those policies were bad, and the exchange ones are better, and for some people that might even be true. But if that was so fr everybody, you would not have to forcibly cancel them, people would jump to the exchange voluntarily once it was working. You have a typical elitist dem attitude, that your experts know better what is good for people, than people know what is good for themselves, and you must therefore force them to make your choice. Making the exchanges purely voluntary would have been reasonable, but forcing people to buy from them, just indicates you know the product really is bad for many people. And as I say, Americans don't like coercion, even if you claim it is for their own good.”
unebaiser on Nov 22, 2013 at 19:48:05
“Unfortunately,my elitist opinion is correct. Look how many people voted for Sarah Palin. I rest my case. The right wingers are mad ,that a Different Color President,has come along behind their pathetic one,and outdone him in every way possible. All else,is just an illusion.”
“Those other issues are mostly distractions, that repubs can cope with if they push back properly.
But obamacare is a pocketbook issue, and people vote on pocketbook issues. And you are deluding yourself if you think the website is the only problems. The real problems are the forced cancellations, moves to part time, and excessive cost for young healthy people, which will not get better unless the law is fixed. the ACA has entirely too much coercion, and Americans don't like coercion.”
Jamgrae on Nov 17, 2013 at 22:58:42
“And you are deluding yourself if you think that the Democrats won't make these "distractions" a major issue...especially since the GOP are still moving full speed ahead with their distractions. And believe it or not, the pocketbook issues will also vanish as soon as many realize that Obamacare serves the consumer, and not the insurance companies.
The protections that are in the ACA is the reason why millions attempted to access the healthcare program in the first place. And let us not forget that the insurance companies, long before the ACA was ever thought of, raised the rates of consumers when they wanted to....dropped insurance coverage when they wanted to....and cost many to lose their homes because of the out of pocket costs.
You may think that Voter Suppression is just a distraction, but it is MORE than that for minority voters...infact, it is an outright INSULT. And many politicians have felt the STING of outraged women who had their private parts invaded by Republican doctrines. Additionally, Boehner can block as many immigration laws as he can, but that won't make Latinos flock happily to the Republican ranks.”
“We'll see wont we. But I notice the same level of panic and confusion among dems after the obamacare failure, as they had in 2010, when they took a national bath, so 2014 could be another vey bad year for dems, especially since the employer mandates will cause an even bigger round of cancellations, and also moving workers to part time, about 3 months before election day, ideal timing for a dem caused disaster.”
unebaiser on Nov 17, 2013 at 20:28:49
“Again,you hope. And how exactly, is the ACA a failure? Because people found out they were paying for lousy insurance policies? What kind of ideology,supports that? You overestimate the number of people,foolish enough to continue buying into right wing hypocrisy. Enjoy.”
“That is often a problem with governors, as Romney also had the same problem. But their executive experience also often makes them better presidents, since they know how to run a gov, and get stuff through a legislature. Reagan and Clinton were both exceptions to this rule, as they had both executive experience, and charisma.”
“Before you write off the repub party, you might want to think about what the obamacare disaster is doing to the credibility of the dem party, and the credibility of the very idea of doing big things with the fed gov. I think the dems could be headed for the same kind of disaster that hit the repubs in 2006-2008.”
rainbow69 on Nov 17, 2013 at 20:43:47
“The "repub party" has written itself off, mainly because they depend on non-thinkers like you. By the 2014 elections, the ACA will be fully implemented and people will love it, exact like what happened with Social Security and Medicare. Continue on in your fantasy world and accept many thanks from Democrats everywhere. Do you have any more funny stories to tell us?”
Jamgrae on Nov 17, 2013 at 20:21:39
“Obamacare won't be the ONLY factor facing the 2014 or 2016 elections. That website will soon be fixed.
What the Republicans need to worry about is how many minorities they are offending with their Voter Supppression laws....how many Latinos they have wronged with their lack of passing meaningful Immigration laws....and their offensive and insulting invasians into the private parts of women.
They lost BIG time because of those social agendas and there is no sign that they have let up on any of them. And everyone knows that it was the GOP/Tea Party that shut down the government because of Obamacare and cost the nation 24 Billion.....that's going to be hard to forget.”
“And the dems are making equally destructive and unreasonable proposals to break the sequester and raise taxes, so it looks like both sides want another shutdown again, as like last time. The best compromise would be for the dems to give up on getting tax hikes, and trade some spending increases they want on the sequester, in exchange for an equal amount of entitlement cuts. And if the dems want to cut tax loopholes, just make them revenue and bracket neutral, and repubs would agree. A compromise is there, but whether Reid/Obama want one is a different story.”
“Actually I am quite upset that Reid/Obama wasted money on the shutdown with their absurd no negotiations with terrorists stance, after the house had given them a reasonable compromise with the 1 yr delay, and indicated they would compromise even more.”
“The proposal was to keep people on unemployment indefinitely, my alternative gets them real jobs. and the private sector does fund 50% of their pay, and all of it after 6 months, plus what businesses must normally pay for unemployment coverage.”
Mac-Ten on Nov 17, 2013 at 19:47:21
“a jobs plan getting the private sector to fund whatever it is you want. forget govt spending for awhile”
“No way should unemployment benefits be extended indefinitely, it just encourages people to stay on unemployment forever. A far better solution would be to give a subsidy to employers who will hire people who have been unemployed more then 6 months, and keep the present unemployment cutoff of 6 months. The subsidy could be either 50% of their new salary, or 50% of their unemployment benefits, whichever is less, with the subsidy lasting 6 months (which would again qualify them for unemployment if they get laid off again). This would encourage employers to give these poor souls what they really need, a job, and would help many more people than indefinitely extending unemployment benefits. It would also feed the same amount of cash into the economy, but the right way, into producing jobs, not dependence. And it would also weed out people who are no longer interesting in finding a new job, since new jobs would then actually be available, and we would know that they were not interested in taking them.”
forrealwatches on Nov 17, 2013 at 22:41:52
“I have been saying that for years. Give the employer the 10000 dollars to an employer that will pay out in salary 20000 dollars or more. The system need to be changed. Great Post!”
Constance Goforth on Nov 17, 2013 at 22:25:45
“You're right. That is a far better solution.”
allisonisa39e on Nov 17, 2013 at 18:23:23
“When you give rewards to people for doing nothing then you get nothing.
Lets make them work for this gift, some sort of community service.”
ez14livin on Nov 17, 2013 at 15:31:46
“yea, cause lord knows we don't have enough workers for walmart or mickey D's... and the corporate overlords sure could use another subsidy/tax write off to go along w/ what they get by taxpayers covering their workers' medicaid & snap assistance..
you don't have a clue what is going on in this country right now...
where are the jobs? or does faux noise not cover that topic?”
“Yes, all those mandates, plus plenty more including several that many people don't believe they need, the very reason why the exchange plans cost more, and deliver less in deductibles and networks. Did you seriously believe you can get all those free goodies in your list with paying for them somewhere, either higher premiums, higher deductibles, or lower quality networks. Again I say there is a simple way to prove your exchange plans are really better. Grandfather everybody, make the mandates apply solely to the exchanges, thus making Obama's promise "you can keep it" a true promise, rather than a contemptible lie. Since they are gov subsidized they already have a competitive advantage, so people should flock to them voluntarily if they are really better. But elitist leftists don't believe in choice, they believe in forcing people to do what they, in their leftist wisdom, believe is good for them, whether it really is or not.”
“Some simple tests to make. For example has the rate of policy cancellations significantly increased this year, or remained about the same. Considering the complaints that have rolled in, a significant increase is likely, which would disprove your churning contention. As to your contention these policies are no good, in at least several verified cases it is definitely false, like the lady who had cancer, and her policy had paid 1.3M in claims over 7 yrs, pretty good for a supposedly crap policy. But the simplest test would be to make obamas "you can keep it" promise true, by having the obamacare mandates only apply to the exchange, and not to private policies, thus stopping all the forced cancellations. If as you claim the exchange policies are better, people will go there voluntarily. But Obama wont agree to do that, because your contention that the exchange is better for most people is pure crap, and Obama knows it.”
Coyote50 on Nov 11, 2013 at 02:56:07
“"All (grandfathered) health plans must:
.End lifetime limits on coverage
.End arbitrary cancellations of health coverage
.Cover adult children up to age 26
.Provide a Summary of Benefits and Coverage (SBC), a short, easy-to-understand summary of what a plan covers and costs
.Hold insurance companies accountable to spend your premiums on health care, not administrative costs and bonuses
Grandfathered plans DON'T have to:
.Cover preventive care for free
.Guarantee your right to appeal
.Protect your choice of doctors and access to emergency care
.Be held accountable through Rate Review for excessive premium increases
In addition to the above, grandfathered individual health insurance plans (the kind you buy yourself, not the kind you get from an employer) don't have to:
.End yearly limits on coverage
.Cover you if you have a pre-existing health condition"
The INSURANCE COMPANIES make the decisions - not the ACA.”
Coyote50 on Nov 11, 2013 at 02:53:09
“"In Kentucky, Insurance Provider Humana was fined $65,000 for sending out misleading letters.
The Kentucky Department of Insurance has fined Humana $65,430 because it offered policyholders an unapproved opportunity to amend their insurance as part of a letter that regulators have called “misleading.”
The department investigated letters sent in August to 6,543 individual plan policyholders in Kentucky. The letters said they needed to renew their plans for 2014 within 30 days or choose a more expensive option that complies with the Affordable Care Act.
But regulators last month called the letters misleading, arguing they did not make sufficiently clear that policyholders could compare and choose competing plans on the state’s health insurance exchanges, which open on Oct. 1, and for which they could be eligible for federal subsidies.
Let's follow this logically, if the letters were sent in August and required a response within 30 days - it essentially forced the policy holders to choose the worse possible option before the Oct 1st launch of their State Exchange.
That is a classic "High Pressure" sales tactic. "Buy NOW or you'll miss out. SALE ENDING SOON" - when in fact, there was no legitimate reason to push people make a decision in that 30 day window other than to prevent them from shopping on the Exchange."”
Coyote50 on Nov 11, 2013 at 02:43:05
““I think there needs to be great emphasis that plans are not being canceled because of ACA requirements,” said Jon Gabel, a senior fellow at the University of Chicago’s Health Care Research Department. “They’re being canceled because insurers do not want to ‘grandfather’ some plans.”
“I don't think this travesty of a law can be fixed, and we are better off repealing it and starting over. But if you insist, one fix I could support would be to grandfather every private plan, up to 2013, and even better just say that the obamacare mandates do not apply to any private plans, but only to the exchanges. Since the exchanges are already gov subsidized, they have a natural competitive advantage. If as Obama claims, their mandated policies really are better for most people, them most people should be happy to go there voluntarily and get the subsidies, without forcibly cancelling their present policies to force them to go there. Obama made a promise "If you like it you can keep it", so lets make that promise real, instead of the contemptible lie it is now.”
“Typical of Obama that when his policy fails, and throws millions off policies that had been doing well for them, his solution is yet another ton of gov subsidies, turning yet another group of independent happy people into gov dependents. How about just repealing the mandates that forced the cancelations, and grandfather everybody. Make the obamacare mandates apply solely to the subsidized exchange plans, and let the market decide. Since the exchanges are gov subsidized, they should have a natural competitive advantage, so if the Obama mandated plans are really better for most people, as he claims, most people will buy them.”
Coyote50 on Nov 10, 2013 at 23:21:28
“What a crock. People got thrown off these lousy individual policies all the time before the ACA. There was huge churn in these policies. And they got dropped when they got sick. Told they'd forgotten to tell the insurance company about a pre-existing sinus infection they had when they were 10 just when they needed to use the policy. Why do you think that 60% of individual bankruptcies were from medical expenses? Hmmmm?”
“OK, thx. I am glad you just wanted honest clarification, and was glad to give it. I was afraid for a minute because some people pull the link ploy as a lazy way of challenging a point, without addressing any of the specifics in the point.”
“Any decent history book goes into why the Whigs faded and got replaced by the repubs, with the Whigs trying to straddle the issue of slavery, while the repubs more forthrightly came out against it, being a major factor. And a party, the dems, who fully supported slavery, and were willing to go to war to preserve it, can hardly be said to be friends of liberty at that point. I am trying to figure what part of my remark would be something you could even contest.”
“Good to see you don't hate all corporations. You only hate corporations that are not run according to your leftist ideals. In my case I prefer to give them the liberty to run themselves as they think best, provided they comply with the law, and the less regulations the better.”
“Nice to know you guys still believe in civil discourse, and would never call your opponents extreme vile names. Although given the unsustainable spending of our present gov, I prefer the cockroaches.”
“I agree that the moderate parts of the repub party are indeed fading, just as the moderate Whigs faded. But remember the Whigs did not fade because they were excessively radical, but because they were excessively moderate on the issue of slavery. On some issues, like liberty, moderation is not right. And those radical repubs, who actually believed in liberty, were the ones to replace both them, and the anti liberty dems.”
“laststar hates corporations far more than he likes liberty. A bit ironic though that Obama loves crony capitalism, and is very good to corporations, provided they favor him and donate to the right people.”
LastStar on Oct 26, 2013 at 18:05:47
“Man...generalization must be your middle name. Here are some corporations I like: