“I think the annoying thing is that I live in Richmond Yorkshire and was looking at some council documents and turns out they turned down a government grant to not raise council tax, so they raise it. They also decided to give some flood victims free council tax for up to a year. Seems to me that the whole government needs sorting out.”
“Totally agree, if you put the fear of spending into peoples minds they wont spend. This leads to the economy not growing at all. Be nice to see how they are helping companies, when as an SME owner I cant get a bean out of them.”
“Seems to me that the problem is that George Osborne want to keep cutting, they are not offering any help to anyone. Yet he thinks cuts are the way to go. Its like the old saying goes "you have to spend money to make money"”
scouse55 on Apr 21, 2013 at 07:16:47
“There's another old saying. " money is made round to go round",
but all we seem to see is money being 'squared' away into off shore, untouchable, accounts.”
Bertie Buttons on Apr 20, 2013 at 19:10:17
“Austerity has compounded the already flagging economy. The very word sends the message to panic and halt personal spending. The only way forward is to trade out of this mess not stifle it.”
Mar 12, 2013 at 21:13:12
“I think we must agree to disagree, I think that it would be less racist and more equal if, instead of having different magazines, there was more done to get everyone in the mainstream media rather than being split from it.
I actually publish a fashion magazine and its always our intention to show everyone equally and not favour one colour, race, class or anyone else in the magazine. We aim to showcase everyone in the fashion world equally, although I do agree there does seem to be a lean to towards the more white models, but I think that what needs to happen is that rather than thinking about someones skin colour, and fighting the corner for black people, you should concentrate on the person behind the skin, their beauty, personality, etc. As it seems to me that when anyone refers to black people its always, skin first person second, when in the case of white people colour is rarely mentioned.”
TeaOli on Mar 12, 2013 at 21:48:57
“You wrote: "As it seems to me that when anyone refers to black people its always, skin first person second, when in the case of white people colour is rarely mentioned."
And that is part of the problem.
I suspect you are right, however: we have to continue to disagree.
While I don't fault you goals for the long term, I cannot agree that in the short term it would be a good thing to wrench away what few positives currently exist insofar as media representation for non-White people before that world you describe exists.
But that is a perspective I attained from growing up with far fewer examples of *outer beauty* that resembled me in the mainstream media. Because of that, I internalised the idea that for the most part, it wasn't possible for most people see people who resembled as having outer beauty.
I was fortunate in that I never went so far as to believe on my own that we couldn't be beautiful; I just took the comparatively (very) limited representation to mean others were mostly blind. A large part of that was due to the people who raised not letting me believe we *weren't* beautiful peoples.
But there are other young people of colour who aren't so "lucky" as I was.”
Mar 12, 2013 at 18:44:01
“I agree to some extent, everyone should be covered in mainstream media, therefore not requiring any specific ethnic magazines. My point is that if there was a magazine called white women, white people or similar it would be seem as racist. Yet magazines specifically covering non white people is not seem as racist, whether they are not covered in main stream media or not, does not make it any less racist. We need to address the balance and get everyone covered in mainstream, rather than having magazines which only cover one side.”
TeaOli on Mar 12, 2013 at 19:52:11
“Spoken like someone who has not experienced being one of the unrepresented.
There isn't a need for magazines called "White Women" or "White People" because that is currently the de facto content of the mainstream titles.
Do you truly believe that the solution is to take away what representation we non-White people have BEFORE the imbalance is addressed? Do you truly believe it racist and unfair that we find that representation where we can now?
If so, I have to believe you aren't capable of fathoming the damage that comes from the lack. And if that's the case, I have little hope of having you understand why a magazine called Black Hair would be in no way equal to a magazine called White Women.”
Feb 26, 2013 at 19:12:01
“I find with an obsurd notion, why is it acceptable to say a magazine must include bloack people, when there are plenty of magazines that are aimed at black people, such as black bride, asian bride, black hair, etc. Dont understand why it is acceptable for black people to complain about a magazine they are not featured in, and not be called racist, yet when white people say anything again black people they are called racist. If we want to be truely multi-cultural there should be no magazines that cater for either race or colour. so come on people, not sure why this is such a big issue as there are plenty of magazines that favour black over whtie, yet no ones complains.”
dessoftruth on Mar 20, 2013 at 11:27:38
“Please name the "plenty" of magazines that favour black over whtie. And if I'm not mistaken, although you say no one complains - YOU are complaining. Magazines that are supposed to be broadbased, should be broadbased. If you don't want Asian, Latino or black money then make it clear that this is a white magazine. I doubt anyone will complain about not being in it. I also doubt it would survive for long.”
Feb 26, 2013 at 19:06:40
“This is an strange notion, why is it that we can have black magazines such as black bride and if white people say anything they are called racist, yet when black people say something against white people, its accepted. If we want to be a truely multi-cultural society we should also do away with magazines that are all black such as black bride magazine and black hair magazine, come on folks we need to make sure that this issue is even on all sides.”
dessoftruth on Mar 20, 2013 at 11:34:56
“If you ever bothered to really look at a magazine that catered to women of color, you would notice that it is not ALL women of color. Many of the ads are not women of color but white women. However, you can go through all of Vanity Fair and see not one person of color. They can advertise that the magazine highlights the Oscar nominees and yet are remiss to put the nominees of color on the cover. This happens year after year with them. To get riled up over magazines where women of color MIGHT see a representation of themselves seems childish. And I say might because within each culture, unfortunately, often the models who look the most mainstream (read white) are the ones featured. You might not see a dark skinned Thai model on an Asian cover or an African American woman with dark skin and natural hair but you will see the ones that most resembles white women.”
TeaOli on Mar 12, 2013 at 14:24:09
“That those types of magazines exist at all is a direct response to the low numbers of non-White people represented in mainstream media (and, in the case of titles such as Black Hair, the lack of articles that address our particular needs). If we lived in a truly multicultural society, these magazines wouldn't be needed. As we don't, they are. And to get rid of the magazines before getting rid of the reason for their existence is unreasonable. To call for such a measure is at best insensitive.”