“Voting is not how you remove elected officials.
Take note from some of the wiser small towns and cities across American and impeach.
Sign ballots. Get the # of names needed and remove them immediately from office.”
“They want a gun in every school because it's like a million more guns and ammo! NRA will always want more guns, no matter how they spin it.”
jackbond on Dec 23, 2012 at 12:32:11
“The NRA is a lobbying organization for the gun industry, it's a side benefit that they get millions of dupes to donate to them. There was absolutely zero possibility it was going to support ANY gun regulations.”
“Police firearms also fall within the 12 round magazine. I hear your self defense point, and agree with it. It is our fundamental right to protect ourselves, however, don't you think an AK or ar-15 is a little absurd? These weapons can not be concealed, and can not provide the type of protection the hand gun offers to your wife. They are designed for military use. No civilian should require one. I bet they ban high powered assault rifles and lower the 12 bullet clips to 10. I think the lowering of bullets will have little effect but I think restricting assault rifles from civilians is a good thing.
By "standing up" I meant over throw the government. The largest argument for high powered assault rifles is the, "we may have to fight the government someday" argument. This will never happen and is a horrible excuse to own these guns. Like the women rights movement and black rights movement, future campaigns will be non-violent.”
eaglespark on Dec 17, 2012 at 20:05:57
“Where I live here in rural Oregon, the AR-15 is not called a "high powered assault rifle", because it does not shoot a "high power" round, and it is not... an assault rifle. It is commonly used for varmint control, and other "high powered" rifles are used for deer and elk. I disagree that semi-auto rifles are "designed for military use". The Colt M-16/M-4 series are "military assault rifles". Where I live, we do
not need an "excuse" for owning a good varmint rifle. We choose what we want for that, buy it and do it. I do not see a problem with that, and banning all of those rifles will not stop mass murder.”
“I agree that this is not the end all solution to gun violence but as an avid hunter i know which guns are made for killing animals and which are made for killing humans. I think this is a step in the right direction. We will see if our elected officials feel the same.
We will never need to "stand up" to our government like past patriots. Those days are over. Wake up. It's sad you feel so "punished" in the most free country on the planet.”
eaglespark on Dec 16, 2012 at 22:42:27
“My wife's little self-defense pistol came with 12 round magazines as standard equipment. She bought it and trained with it after being beaten and raped. It was designed for defense, not murder. Senator Feinstein and the Brady Campaign now call those: "assault clips which are only good for murdering large numbers of people". What do you think of that? We believe that is bs, and again, banning a law-abiding citizen's property, because of the crimes of others, is wrong on a very basic level. You do not call that unfair "punishment" (in effect) when we have done nothing wrong? We do call it that. "We will never need to stand up to our government like past patriots"? We are life-long Oregon Democrats. We did that in support of the civil rights of minorities, and for women's rights, as well. We will do it again, if necessary.”
“Clips of more than 10 bullets is the point here... Not the semi-auto "style" in which you argue.”
eaglespark on Dec 16, 2012 at 17:03:32
“"Clips of more than 10 bullets is the point here"
Which my wife and I (along with many millions of others) already own. Limiting all of our ammunition magazines will not stop insane/criminals from committing mass murder. Oh yes, and: "we will not comply". We have had enough of this bs. We refuse to be treated like criminals and be, in effect, punished for crimes we did not commit. No.”
BlueKoi on Dec 16, 2012 at 16:53:28
“"Magazines",, only M1s used clips,, .. So,, you tape 3 smaller magazines together and flip them when you need to.. and you carry extras,, I'm not trying to give a lesson in how to do it,, just makking a point.. Hi Cap magazines are not hard to find,, ban them and they just become a little more expensive..”