“There is one aspect to Obamacare that will have a long lasting legacy.
By the time the dust from this disaster settles, no one from the Left will be able to mention "single payer" let alone advocate for it for the remainder of the 21st century.
Good job, there, liberals.”
sheilafrees on Dec 2, 2013 at 22:41:18
“I disagree. If we go back to the old way of insuring people, prices will continue to increase to the point of more and more people being uninsured. We can only move forward on this. They may have to move the date forward for some people. Over 3/4 million people on one site today is saying volumes.”
Gary Gushulak on Dec 2, 2013 at 22:17:10
“Hopefully it is the pre exsisting conditon aspect that will last. Otherwise my insurance will drop me as fast as you can say Ted Cruz. Oh yeah I kind of like the fact that my kids stay on my policy until they find a suitable job.”
“Building castles in the air on a foundation of lies. Great concept. If helping someone else out was Dem's intent, they have botched it badly.
If liberals had been truly honest with Americans about Obamacare, it would have never seen the light of day. As it was, there was sufficient understanding to create the 2010 backlash in Congress. And 2014 is going to make 2010 look like an afternoon tea at Downton Abbey.
So, quit lying. State your goal and exactly how you intend to pay for it.
Oh, good luck with that single payer concept. After this fiasco, no party will have the will to confront health care issues for more than a generation. Good job.”
“It's the largest, stealthiest, socialist wealth re-distribution plan ever.
If people really understood that the reason so many people will be thrown off their current plans is an intentional component to be able to charge higher premiums, they would be properly outraged. Higher premiums are just a tax increase in another form.
If you are not getting a subsidy, you might contemplate just how many other individuals or families your premium is supporting.”
Viper on Dec 1, 2013 at 21:45:59
“Our DEBT/Government Spending Problem is RED STATES! THE TAKERS and the low wage, part time job generators. Largest redistribution of wealth in the history of the world
"Take a look at the difference between federal spending on any given state and the federal taxes received from that state. We measure the difference as a dollar amount: Federal Spending per Dollar of Federal Taxes. A figure of $1.00 means that particular state received as much as it paid in to the federal government. Anything over a dollar means the state received more than it paid; anything less than $1.00 means the state paid more in taxes than it received in services. The higher the figure, the more a given state is a welfare queen.
Of the twenty worst states, 16 are either Republican dominated or conservative states. Let's go through the top twenty.
New Mexico: $2.03
West Virginia: $1.76
North Dakota: $1.68
South Dakota: $1.53
South Carolina: $1.35
Does anyone else notice the overwhelming presence of northern "rugged individualist" states, like Alaska, the Dakotas and Montana, along with most of the South? Race to the bottom!
“That's the whole problem isn't, you might be helping someone else out, and we know how much Republican's hate helping anyone else. It's just not in that family values plan you are always telling us about.”
“THE central feature of this proposal is to make sure the implosion does not happen until after any of the current politicians involved are either retired from office or moved on to different political offices.”
PMarieS on Nov 28, 2013 at 02:44:33
“Kind of like the Democrats in Congress who are up for election in 2014?”
We might as well get all this liberal utopia crap out into the daylight alongside Obamacare so people can really experience the Detroit disaster on a broader scale.”
DRASTIC on Nov 19, 2013 at 14:27:13
“DC and its utopia mentality goes against morals. If “shared” responsibility replaces “personal” responsibility, then failure is rewarded and true hard workers will question why they are working so hard.”
cliff lash on Nov 19, 2013 at 14:25:20
“I live outside of Detroit. You have no idea what you are talking about if your thinking the economy of Detroit and Obamacare or raising minimum wages have any thing in common”
“Obamacare is simply a liberal wealth redistribution plan in different form.
If Obama and Dems in Congress had proposed a new tax on individuals to subsidize Obamacare premiums, there would have been zero chance of passage. Instead, they used subterfuge to call it a “penalty/fee” rather than a tax; a lie that was exposed by the Supreme Court.
The plain facts are that any people are going to pay much more for their premiums in order to subsidize others and all Americans were lied to in order to get this disaster passed without a single Republican vote.”
“Another member of the FREEbagger wing of the Democratic Party heard from.
It may escape you, but some people actually pay their way in life. They buy insurance to cover them in the event of a catastrophic event, not to get other people to pay for what they consume. They have actually taken the time to examine what is available to them and select the kind of coverage that is best for their personal situation.
What is it about FREEdom that FREEbaggers do not understand?”
“Written like a true lib. You know better what an individual wants and needs than the individual him/herself.
Read the horror stories. These people had the coverage THEY wanted at a price THEY had an opportunity to accept or reject when the policy was offered.
Now, they are forced into something that someone else believes they should have and at double the price they were paying only because they no have to pay for coverage for people such as yourself.”
kbug0021 on Nov 12, 2013 at 21:10:38
“MY coverage comes from my husbands employee. HE pays our premiums. WE pay our way. So there goes some of your assumptions.
What horror stories? I have heard of people who lost what they had, but found better for less money.
I am a democrat, but I NEVER said I know better for anyone. People who know the industry, and what's what have said it. They do know whats crap and who is overcharging.”
“Obama and the Dems had an opportunity to delay the launch of this back in September. They knew the potential for failure was high. They knew the security risks were high. Actually, they knew there were significant problems back in July.
Instead, just so they would not appear to give Republicans a win, the egomaniac in the White House and his minions in Congress refused to deal, thereby sealing the fate of his namesake legacy.
The ship is already moving down the slipway and people are beginning to notice there is no keel. No amount of trying to hold it back or make repairs before it hits the water will prevent it from rolling over. Dems know this. Republicans know this.
By November of next year, all of America will realize this.”
“What are you going to name the state ... the FreeLoader State? With just 29,000 residents ... just how much are you going to tax everyone, for all the services they would need, without federal monies pouring in. And, isn't THAT the reason you want to secede in the first place ... because you don't want to pay any more in taxes? You people amaze me.”
“I wish I could find it again, but some guy in Tennessee made the observation that the Pearl Harbor attack occurred on December 7, 1941 and Victory Europe was declared on May 8, 1945; roughly 3 years and six months.
Obamacare was signed into law on March 23, 2010. The web site went live on October 1, 2013; roughly three years and six months.
He then went on to list all the things that had to be organized, managed, produced, trained and shipped like troops, ships, aircraft, tanks, bombs, ammunition, and on and on and on. We also developed, without the benefit of computers or any preceding comparable program or device, the atomic bomb.
Obama and his useless minions could not even put together a web page in the same amount of time it took this country to win a war several thousands of miles away.
Pure, pathetic incompetence.”
AntiSocialSailor on Nov 8, 2013 at 21:29:39
“That is a monumentally stupid comparison on so many levels it defies description.”
“Does anyone know who is president now? Is it Valarie Jarrett?
Obama, apparently, knows nothing about anything and is not responsible for anything. Now, he want the same insurance execs he recently demonized to help prop up his image.
Too little, too late for the Sales-Weasel-In-Chief. His only legacy in the history books will be that he was the first African-American president.”
shstu on Nov 5, 2013 at 22:11:24
“I believe you are either right or awfully close to it - she did tweet that first line of using the Insurance companies for the scapegoats when it began to be exposed by some of the "other" Media that we had a conflict with what the President had said (to sell the Healthcare) & what is actually going on now.......I figured that would be the SPIN from the TOP down & so it has......Thistle Handsome.....Who runs her?”
sensiblethoughts4u on Nov 5, 2013 at 21:33:32
“And that YOU can't live with!”
Myrtle Catherine on Nov 5, 2013 at 21:10:09
“OMG! We have a president? Thank goodness! Has he heard about this insurance mess, and if so, what's he doing about it?”
flyboy one on Nov 5, 2013 at 21:08:50
“I challenge your use of the word "African-American. obama is an African-African living in AMERICA, nothing more.”
“In the history books, the sum total of Obama's legacy will be: He was the first African-American president.”
h henry on Nov 4, 2013 at 00:33:04
“The "real" sum total will be what you said plus "one of the greatest presidents ever to serve The United States of America". I know you don't want that, but I believe that is exactly what the history books are going to show.”
Shirley Ogburn on Nov 4, 2013 at 00:07:19
“We know. That is about as far as you can read anyway.”
l78lancer on Nov 4, 2013 at 00:07:06
“That's the history book being written in Texas. Fortunately no one else will read it.”