“Thank you for your reply, but I'm not sure my point came across. I realize that the APA had removed homosexuality from their diagonstic manual, but from what I understand, it was merely by stating something to the effect of 'Homosexuality is no longer a mental disorder'. So far as I know, there was no adjustment made to the underlying criteria with which the APA determines whether someone is suffering from mental disorder. Assuming that this was the case, couldn't we then surmise that their statement was possibly a political one rather than one with any sort of scientific basis? In either case, if the underlying criteria hasn't been changed and homosexuality behavior meets it, wouldn't it be worthwhile to further explore the possibility that it still may be a mental disorder and treat those who suffer from it should they desire?
“I'm sorry, I'm not going to take the time to listen to a one-hour audio clip to understand the entire point you are trying to make. Maybe you can summarize it in a couple sentences? I will quote the introduction to the audio clip, though, that says "In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) declared that homosexuality was not a disease". The way I understand it, the APA has not considered homosexuality a disease for quite some time now.
Yes, I'm sure many gay people do meet the underlying criteria for some other mental disorder, and are diagnosed as such. I'm quite sure many straight people are diagnosed with mental disorders these days as well. But in neither case does APA use sexual orientation as part of their diagnostic criteria. All references to homosexuality in any mental diagnosis were removed by 1986. So I'm not sure what your point is.”
“It's ironic in response to an article about a group deciding to promote a policy of no name calling that most comments have reverted to doing just that. The BSA has been called homophobic, bigoted, paranoid & gay bashing. It's been implied that it is bullying, disrespective of others, grandstanding, treats people like 2nd class citizens, doesn’t raise boys as HUMAN, is obsessed with sexual orientation, harasses homosexuals, that their policies directly result in suicides & that it’s leaders are ‘closeted' men, all by people that would purport to be open-minded and enlightened. I have no problem with the stance that this private org. has taken. I feel that, because homosexuality falls under the APA criteria for mental disorders, it should be considered as such. This doesn’t mean that homosexuals are bad or evil, much the same way that those who suffer from depression aren't considered bad or evil. There's evidence pointing towards the possibility that homosexuality isn't an innate part of being human, but in an effort to appear ‘tolerant’, a majority of people enable this movement rather than allowing homosexuals who want it, to receive the help they could use. It’s tragic & probably criminal how the psychological community has turned their back to people who (by their definition) are suffering from a mental disorder. I’m sure that most people on this site will disagree with me & ample insults will follow, but if you’d like to honestly discuss these thoughts, I’m happy to oblige as I’m able.”
cwgmpls on Jan 27, 2012 at 10:04:11
“Your facts need a little updating. The APA removed homosexuality from its diagnostic manual in 1973. All references to homosexuality in other disorders were fully removed by 1986.
I agree I've found a lot of name calling from both sides, which is ironic since we are discussing an no-name-calling campaign. But I've also seen a lot of respectful debate. Hopefully we can filter out the former and contribute to the latter.”