“They were both socializing with animals that rarely come into contact with humans AND that was before we knew so much about the risk of acclimating animals to human contact AND it was before wireless cameras and laptops that could communicate data. We don't still bleed patients when they get sick. We don't have X-Ray machines in shoe stores. We shouldn't be paying for this guy's research. There is also a case to be made for that kind of research on primates because we're so close in terms of evolution. That case can't be made here.”
hp blogger Community Advocate Stuart on Aug 30, 2013 at 16:43:22
“Look at the faces of the school children after they attempt to feed a bear by hand...
Parts of his research are very interesting. Parts of his research is absolutely irresponsible and potentially lethal- acclimating wild animals to humans is a terrible idea.
He should not receive a single penny of funding until he starts behaving like a responsible person.”
hp blogger Community Advocate Stuart on Aug 29, 2013 at 18:32:03
“They said the same thing about Diane Fossey and Jane Goodall, yet the lion share of what we understand about higher order primates comes from the research of those two women that often involved socializing with the animals they were researching.
This isn't about professional standards or responsibility. It's politics.”
romano70 on Aug 29, 2013 at 15:36:09
“and just WHO do we ask what "responsible" means? Who defines the word, you?”
“Actually, due to time dilation... slow creatures experience time faster than fast creatures. If we were all travelling at the speed of light, we wouldn't experience time at all. The slower you move, the faster time goes.”
“The leadership in the White House has tried repeatedly to get funding for science, education, health, and R&D. The minority in the Senate and the majority in the House has vetoed and/or voted down every attempt.
Just because your favorite president- Bush Jr.- treated the office of the president like he was the dictator of the country (and, yes... democrats were too complacent there) doesn't mean that the current president can do that. Especially when republicans are anti-anything-Obama.”
“Please explain to me how I am incorrect? Because, it seems to me, that you were outraged over the death of an octopus that had 6 arms. The biologist interviewed said that there is no indication that this is a new species.... and that it most likely came from an injury or stunted development. I don't feel the need to rebut every single statement on the internet- just those that are completely incorrect.”
ConverseTheShort on Aug 27, 2013 at 18:07:11
“I'm not outraged about anything. And I also did *not* say anything about a 'new' species, merely that it would made for a bit of interesting research. The hexapodal octopus was clearly not injured, since octopuses can regenerate lost limbs, so it was born w/o one. Which pretty much makes me doubt a 'biologist' who is making statements like that. ;) ”
“The real harm DOES INDEED come from government redistribution of wealth. Unfortunately for 99.9% of Americans, the redistribution is coming from their pockets and going into the pockets of the 0.1%. The richest, most profitable businesses receive infrastructure, subsidies, and a green light to off-shore their profits. The 99.9% pick up their evaded taxes AND subsidize them. Oil companies posting multi-billion quartly profits? Here- take this federal land and make some more money, and we'll go ahead and not tax your on that money you sent to Ireland! Mega-farms receive hundreds of millions of dollars in farm subsidies. Those subsidies were created for small farms... Oh, we can't afford this anymore? That's OK, we'll increase taxes on the middle class. We wouldn't want to slow down our distribution of money to the largest bank in the country. Their $20B yearly profits aren't enough, they need this extra $4B.”
“The start-ups that the government has subsidized under Obama have outperformed the industry average. Of course a start-up or 2 is going to fail. Romney has bankrupted far more companies (intentionally, just so he can get rich) than any "scandal" you cry about.”
“I'm not arguing that it had 2 of its legs cut off or developed improperly- the SCIENTIST in the article said that these were the most likely explanations. You would hate to live by my odd thought patterns? I imagine you would... it would require that you actually read and think before posting.”
ConverseTheShort on Aug 9, 2013 at 20:08:43
“Do you feel the need to rebut every single statement on the internet? Is that how you entertain yourself? Because it seems like a waste of time when you continue being incorrect. ;) ”
“It is an individual. By definition, an individual is rare... it is as rare as it gets, because there is only 1. I could get you a hexapodal octopus tomorrow, if you would like. I'll get an octopi, cut of 2 of its tentacles, and there you have it. But because this is so rare, I will have to charge you $100,000 for it. Deal? I once took a deer that had stepped on an electric fence insulator. It had a plastic ring that had grown into its leg. Super rare. Never seen another like it. Does that make it special? Not really.”
ConverseTheShort on Aug 3, 2013 at 19:28:59
“A natural mutant, then. And seriously, arguing semantically that an eight-legged octopus with two of its legs cut of is a hexapod is straight-up silly. Of course, I'm sure by your definition then every single living thing is a 'natural mutant' since we're not all the same genus, species or identical DNA pattern. I'd hate to live by your odd thought patterns. ”
“No, I didn't. You may think that you can read my thoughts, but that's just more of your delusions. The idea that the government would be spying is grounded in real, logical thought processes. It is a simple extension of what has been known for decades. The idea that an armed revolt against your government (and their trillion dollar military), your neighbors, or random strangers is coming is grounded in paranoia... and it is dangerous.”
Emasee on Aug 2, 2013 at 10:20:27
“That (trillion dollar military) cant even defeat terrorists in stone age afghanistan. You would make the perfect german citizen of the 1930s. ”
“1- It has been nearly a decade since I too p-chem... so I'm trying to remember. We see all sorts of things that shouldn't happen- tunneling for example. Or a wavefunction with many points of 0 probability, but that doesn't stop a particle from 'passing through' that point of 0 probability. "Position" is a very fuzzy concept with electrons.
2- I stand by the marble analogy for a simplification of entanglement.”
“A democratic congress being fed fabricated lies by your boys in red. We learned our lesson, though- republicans will say anything and sacrifice the lives of anyone (except for themselves and their friends and family) for a buck.”
rhagan89 on Jul 31, 2013 at 09:13:41
“What an absolute nonsensical, childish, emotionally charged pile of gibberish”