“Please help me understand this - does suspension of the M-rights mean that we can torture suspects? What does not having the right to remain silent mean?”
Soundofthunder on May 10, 2010 at 16:40:10
“Miranda isn't required for your right to remain silent to exist; it's a reminder to laypeople that it exists, plus it informs people that legal council is available without charge.
Foxrocks on May 10, 2010 at 16:40:01
“Miranda is a right granted to US citizens, and does not cover non US citizens captured on foriegn soil or committing acts of war. Basically, if you are a foriegner captured in A-Stan or trying to set off a bo.mb on an air plane you do not have the right to remain silent, and we will give you councel at the time of our choosing.”
“The detainees are either convicted POWs or are awaiting trails - expect many more detainees to come from Afghanistan!
1) Islamic POWs are NOT American terrorists and should be interred separately
2) GITMO should be an open book
3) POWs should have rights under the Geneva convention
4) GITMO has been operating over 7 years and detainee handling is well understood”
“Look - as the war wages on in Afghanistan there will be many more detainees - some will have been charged as POWs and others will be waiting for there trial - what's wrong with keeping them in a single prison (GITMO) that is being run as an open book according to the rules of the Geneva Convention. This war isn't going to end soon and to me a single POW camp makes sense for all concerned. I don't see why this group should be mixed in with American prisoners. We put German POW in camps (Fort Bliss in Texas for one) so what the big deal.
If the detainees are legally convicted as a POWs and must be imprisoned until the war is over then why spread them all accross the US prisons. Let the human rights organizations and their Islamic culture have a single point of presence.”
May I make the following case for keepin GITMO open...at least as far as housing detainee prisoners not necessarily trying them.
1) Detainees in US prisons would be subjected to danger amd maybe death from other prisoners
2) Detainees in GITMO are culturally/religiously united and that may make their detention more bearable
3) GITMO detainees are together as a closed group which would make it easier for human rights groups to visit, assess and question detainees.
I further believe that GITMO should be run as an "open book", a model prison where human rights groups and the Red Cresent (and other Islamic groups) can be on-site and free to interact with the detainees. A real mosque for prayer services would also help. Family visitations should be considered.
If GITMO has a major makeover than I think all parties could win. The US could show that the new GITMO means that we can learn from our mistakes by providing a sensible place for detainees aligned against the US.
Roses on May 21, 2009 at 19:42:27
About your comments, let me address them in order.
1) You make it sound like they would be housed down at your city jail. These people would be going to Super-max sites throughout the country. They would be not only protected from the other prisoners, but also the public would be protected from them.
2) I don't care if their detainment is "bearable and comfortable". I do care about justice and they should receive a fair trial. If they are judged innocent they should be returned to their countries. They should never be released to walk the streets.
3) I don't think it will be a problem for human rights associations to visit them. Also, it is not my problem. Or your problem. If they receive justice (not vengeance) is our only consideration.
Last, did you listen to our President? They cannot receive justice in Gitmo. It cannot be a "model prison" without justice and fair trials. Hence, we need to transport them to U.S. soil.”
harobamason on May 21, 2009 at 17:17:14
“An American prison is a terrorist worst nightmare.
So how long you think he will last compared to the life of luxury at Gitmo?”
Weirdwriter on May 21, 2009 at 16:56:01
“Well put, Mr. Abruzzo, but still wrong.
The detainees need to be treated as either POWs under international law, or criminals who have broken U.S. laws -- and dealt with accordingly.
Gitmo has no excuse for existence except to skirt all of those laws. You can put lipstick on a pig, and it still oinks.”
emlr on May 21, 2009 at 16:53:30
“I'm a bleeding heart liberal but your ideas are nuts! Talk about coddling!”
apduncan1 on May 21, 2009 at 16:43:12
1) There are American terrorists in US prisons already.
2) The detainees can do the same in the US
3) That can be done better in the US
The reason politicians do not want the detainees in the US is because we'll learn that those detainees are of no value.”
“Good luck hosting thr RM show.
I would liketo hear a discussion on how the US and Iran can make peace in the region. With Ahmadinajad and Hillary as sec of state we (the US) should be able to do a better job.
The Iraq Shia and Iran are natural friends and we must face it and deal with it.
I've alway wondered what would have happed if after 9/11 Bush would have worked with Saddam Hussein to have both nations go after Osama bin Laden. Hussein hated Osama. I think there was a chance to have Saddam and Iraq as an ally but this is what we have when there is no diplomacy.
It would be nice if you had a daily theme - economy, foreign affairs, health care...”
“McCain biggest streagic mistake was picking Palin thinking that all of Hillary's voters would flock to Sarah. Sarah is toxic to all but the comitted base. Sarah is no Hillary and McCain was obviously pandering to women voters.
The base (both Hillary's and Sarah's) were really never lost. They will vote their party.
When all is said and done two thing will emerge.
1. McCain's incredible lack of judgement by picking Palin was his downfall
2. Hillery Clinton beat John McCain as much as Barack Obama”
KarateKid on Oct 14, 2008 at 14:35:16
“No. 2 would be correct if you stated that Hillary prepared Barack for McCain. The Democratic primary WAS for all the marbles. Hillary staying in until the bitter end benefited Obama. In one way, what you said is true. If Hillary had gotten the nomination, she would be running in the high 50s against McCain, say 57-43. A lot of people still can't bring themselves to vote for someone of color. That's not accusing anyone of racism, that's just how it is.”
“Amazing interview - McCain was in the electric chair. I really liked when he said that "Obama chooses his words carefully" and therefore did call Sarah a pig. He also used the term "lipstick on a pig" to refer to Hillary health care....so either McCain (a) doesn't choose his words carefully or (b) meant to call Hillary a pig - which is it?
Also loved when Cindy didn't answer the how many houses do you have question...she became aggogant and snobish and didn't answer the question - wouldn't it be OK to to say "we have X houses and we are grateful to this country for giving us the opportunity to succeed and if elected we will put policies in place to help all Americans succeed".”
“No surprise as SP described herself as a pitbull. Once she bites she won't let go. I can see why she is the poster girl for the conservatives. She (and Mac), once they are in power will be intolerent at best and very likely dangerous domestically and on the world stage.
With a Democratic congress and Mc/Pain in the WH - absolutely nothing positive will get done for 4 more years. Less jobs, more war, no choice, no helath care - no change.”
TheJibreelaMonsters on Sep 13, 2008 at 21:31:44
“Thanks to Palin Power, Congress may go back to the GOP
“Agree - McCain must therefore be "pro-pediphile". I think given the amount of time he waqs on the show the ladies asked a broad spectrum of questions. He must have felt like Swiss cheese after taking all those shots.”
“I agree with Sarah that Russia needs to be confronted over their invasion of Georgia. Also if the world gets destroyed in a nuclear holocaust then so be it. There are some things that the USA should never back away from. Think about how all those people from Atlanta, Macon, Augusta and Savannah felt about getting invaded by Russia. How horrible. I can honestly say' like McCain that "I am a now a Georgian".
Wait -- Sarah was not talking about our Georgia but another one somewhere in Asia? WTF?”
deliriousgod on Sep 13, 2008 at 16:00:58
“yes, the arcane constitutional composition of semi-autonomous and quasi-autonomous sovereignties is an issue that the American people ponder every day and know in their hearts is worth ending human civilisation over.”
fireguy on Sep 12, 2008 at 21:19:26
“Are you sure she wasn't talking about our Georgia? Does she even know that Russia isn't threatening our Georgia? She doesn't seem to know what NATO is or that the people of Iraq were not the ones responsible for the 9-11 attacks on New York and Washington... McCain/Palin -- unfit to lead/not ready to lead.”
“This was a truly amazing interview and can be analyzed for a long time. McCain was definitely in the electric chair. He countered the accusation on lies by claiming they were true and that he knows what Barack was thinking - so McCain now knows what people are thinking - heck he doesn't even know what he's thinking, agents of intolerance now religious leaders, against the Bush tax cuts now for them, liberal on immigration now tough, pro-choice now pro-life. This is a dangerous man.
Also when Cindy could have easily explained how many houses they have and to thank this country for the opportunity to be wealthy she dodged the question - arrogantly and snobbish. Amazing.
I also thought it was very observant that Joy thought that the Republican had McCain by the short hairs and that hopefully he would return to the kinder, gentler McCain - very ballsy of her - go girl!
Everyone should view this "View" episode and draw their own conclusions.”
Rhubarbarian on Sep 12, 2008 at 19:34:11
“I wish they had stayed on the topic of campaign adds that were lies. I wish they'd asked him point blank if he was against teaching kindergartners about inappropriate touching.”
humuhumunukunukuapuaa on Sep 12, 2008 at 19:18:52
“Oh yeah... and don't forget Sarah Palin pretending to be Obama's spokesperson too.
The GOP is really playing every dirty trick in the book.”