“lol, who would memorize that kind of list unless they were a lawyer or something. If I said there were many people killed by the atomic bombs in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, would my point be invalidated if I can't name 5 victims without google? Because I can't. There are many people living in China, but I doubt I could name 5 without google. That doesn't make it any less true”
“"The students who are being successful tend to be the last ones to say that class is too easy. They don't need an excuse because they're working hard and earning a good grade. "
I agree with much of what you are saying, but I do see a risk of increasing the socioeconomic gap with this viewpoint. It greatly favors the ambitious and those with a goal (eg becoming a doctor) to work towards. Those students tend to be disproportionately children with involved home enviroments. Particularly if the student is quite smart, large amounts of work and class time in a typical public school up until late high school or college will be busywork for the student, practicing concepts already understood, or being lectured with material for exponentially more time than it would take the student to teach themselves. So, it takes more than eagerness to learn or intellectual curiosity for bright student. They must also be committed enough to do work just for the sake of getting it done, even if it serves no instructional or practical purposes; the equivilent of digging a hole and filling it back up again.
“I don't disagree with what you say, speaking of gifted students in particular. Like I said initially, there is a grain of truth in their complaints--and a certain amount of inevitability.
One of the great challenges of education is matching student ability and interest with resources.
The more options we have, the more we can meet the needs of diverse students.”
“Singapore teachers are held highly accountable for their end of the education process, this means their performance is documented and the school system does the blaming instead of the parents
"[In Singapore,] Each year, teachers are evaluated according to a grading system - A, B, C, D or E. Only about 2% get a grade of A. and most teachers receive a grade of C. Salary increments are tied to this system and if a teacher gets a grade of D, he or she cannot be promoted through a particular track, for three years. If a teacher gets an E grade, he or she is dismissed."
Also, future teachers are recruited from the top 1/3 of the entering class, which is possible because of the higher (relative) salaries and benefits teachers earn, which puts them at a similiar income to engineers^1, as well as the talented and prestigious peer group which attracts high acheivers. In contrast, less than a quarter of US teachers were in the top 1/3, and their pay is low for a college graduate; college which unlike their Singaporian cohorts, most have to pay for ^2.
“That is not technically true, they have long said that sex itself was only intended for procreation, not satisfying lust, eg "God gave us eyes not to see and desire pleasure, but to see acts to be performed for the needs of life; so too, the genital [’generating’] part of the body, as the name itself teaches, has been received by us for no other purpose than the generation of offspring" from Divine Institutes and "They [certain Egyptian heretics] exercise genital acts, yet prevent the conceiving of children. Not in order to produce offspring, but to satisfy lust, are they eager for corruption" "Medicine Chest Against Heresies" and "This proves that you [Manicheans] approve of having a wife, not for the procreation of children, but for the gratification of passion. In marriage, as the marriage law declares, the man and woman come together for the procreation of children. Therefore, whoever makes the procreation of children a greater sin than copulation, forbids marriage and makes the woman not a wife but a mistress, who for some gifts presented to her is joined to the man to gratify his passion"
“hey, the Higgs bison is a way superior and scientific explaination for creation...no Gods needed. Religion followers, you are wasting your money on hokum and blather.
And the Catholic Bishops and Father Donavan look like a confused gang galloping around on horses in a Monty Python movie”
“If it was an impossibility it wouldn't have mattered; no one would have believed her. The whole problem is that by getting people to believe her she broke their trust, wasted their time, and most importantly, will make it harder for future bullying complaints to get as much support due to people now having in the back of their mind that some people will fake harassment for attention. It will make it harder for legitimate complaints to be taken seriously.
If she said something that couldn't happen like that she had been kidnapped by martians, it wouldn't have had those effects and would have been more forgivable.”
“Wouldn't that make more sense to do AFTER police determine the motive or guilty party? Though it does seem likely that homophobia played a part, at this point that is only based on the fact that it was a shooting on a harmless gay couple in Texas, there is no actual non-circumstancial evidence we know of indicating that homophobia was the reason.”
“And if you read the unedited survey results, it implies that looking for STEM degrees may be lowered by the fact that it is, to quote, "very hard" to compete with the big firms for them. That doesn't exactly encourage one to choose a liberal arts degree if one wants to be in-demand prospect for employers.”
“"Even his method wasn't new, to quote the New Yorker, In the summer before college, he wrote a computer program that prompted webcams to snap photographs, at intervals, and upload them to a Web site. He disguised the program as something else, and tried to get friends to install it. "
Than he's a repeat offender, meaning he's likely to go on and do the same thing again. Throw the book at this peeping tom creep. And that's EXACTLY what he is.”
“"No I do not believe it would have. Prejudice played a major role in this terrible tragedy."
You're assumptions are very questionable. Ravi, as mentioned in the New Yorker article, had already been caught trying trick his friends into installing malicious software so he could spy on them with their webcams. This was not a new idea he came up with upon finding out his roomate was gay.
And you live in a fantasy world if you think being straight protects you from being violated by gays on camera. Minjin Oh, a gay student at Rutgers, videotaped HIMSELF sexually fondling his straight roomate as the roomate slept, a few months before Ravi webcammed Tyler making out with a THIRD PARTY. The difference was that the victim in the first case went straight to police, whereas the victim in the second case killed himself (though this wasn't actually linked to Ravi during the trial).
“"Do you honestly believe pregnancy has no ill-effects on women..."
No, I never said that (though your choice of an international report was disingenous, as abortion is also dangerous in plenty of those countries, even some with abortion on demand like India and Vietnam). You are completely missing the point and your terrible analogy has derailed us. Giving a scenario where society mandates a dangerous medical intervention in which the health risks as a result of the treatment outweigh the benefits to the patient is very different from the pregnacy scenario where the couple chooses to put themselves at risk with sexual behavior (rather than as a result of being born a male as in your scenario), and then they want medicine to get rid of the consequences (i.e., a living human embryo/fetus). Yes, the woman is the one with the consequences, but that wasn't chosen by the hospital nor me, UNLIKE YOUR EXAMPLE, in which the consequences and risks are chosen BY SOCIETY to be faced by all males. That is the most important difference.
"...now you know how incensed women are at your position.
My word, what grandiosity. You DON'T speak for all women! In fact, more men than women think that abortion should be generally available, and more women think that it should be banned, according to the CBS polll. Enough with your stereotypes!
“You are projecting, it was you spun the issue while going to enormous lengths to blame society for the effects of evolution, to the point that you were implying the equivalent of NOT performing a voluntary medical procedure on women was forcibly giving high-doses of medication to healthy men.
"and yet you don't think those involve medicine?"
Women don't NEED doctors to have babies, you do realize the world didn't begin in 19th century Europe right??? Again, the degrees to which you stretch logic are incredible.
"You believe in forcing PREGNANCY..."
Of course not, evolutionary biology and having sex did that. Almost all countries make exceptions in the case of rape, but if someone had voluntary sex, they should expect a pregnancy, that is the reason people evolved to have sex in the first place, it's not rocket science. Why are you trying to pass the buck?
Please try to get this through your head, I did not design human reproduction, none of this was my choice. I am not to blame for the fact that women, not men, get pregnant.
The fact that instead of focusing on people causing the unwanted pregnancies to the minority of women who experience them, you decide the equivilent to banning abortion is to forcibly have ALL males of a certain age, regardless of their behavior, ingest high-dose and pretty untested (on males) medicine basically says it all about your biases and understanding of medical ethics. Scary stuff”
TuoulumneFlower on Apr 29, 2012 at 10:32:07
“Don't look now but there are several safe, effective ways to end pregnancy. You're the one pretending that once a man does his bit, the woman must do hers. Not so; she has a choice. You planting your seed does not, in fact, make her your personal property or put her under your control. Honest.
Honey, I have no intention of imposing chemical castration on men. I am pro-choice. Indeed I love how incensed you are about the very idea --- now you know how incensed women are at your position. (Or you would know if you had an ounce of empathy.) I believe men, like women, have rights as human beings, among which is the right to choose whether or NOT to reproduce.. It's YOU who think you can impose the choice of whether or not to reproduce on women.
Do you honestly believe pregnancy has no ill-effects on women, or are you just saying that if they are sick for months, or they develop toxemia or start bleeding to death, that's just "evolution" and we, as a society, should not do anything about it?
“"I guess you don't know that pregnancy and child birth are potentially harmful...."
Are you serious? I guess you don't know that pregnancy is not an anti-woman device invented to keep them down, it is the way they EVOLVED thanks to BIOLOGY.
"LOL! It's a sexist analogy to equate men's role in reproduction with women's role in reproduction? "
That is a blatantly intentional strawman. Your PREVIOUS SENTENCE just replied to my description of the effects of chemical castration by comparing it to the effects of pregnancy. You can't describe chemical castration as "men's role in reproduction"; the ENTIRE purpose of castration is to PREVENT men from playing a role in reproduction. If you were being honest you would have to compare involuntary chemical castration to involuntary extremely high-dose COCP.
" What's the matter, you think that as a man your right to control your own body, your right to decide whether or not to have sex or to reproduce, your right to be free from government interference in those areas is absolutely sacrosanct and inalienable, but WOMEN have no such rights?"
That is another straw man, men have no rights over abortion. The only difference is the woman carries the pregnancy. Again, you are trying to make bridging the biological gap (only women get pregnant) between men and women using technology a "right", and portraying the "right" given by biology of men not being born castrated as some special right we gave them.”
TuoulumneFlower on Apr 28, 2012 at 10:21:01
“I've seen whirling dervishes who spin less than you.”
“That is very rarely the case. Only 4% of aborting women in 2004 cited physical health as their primary reason for choosing abortion, and that includes all health issues, not simply life-threatening ones. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3711005.pdf What about the other 96%?”
BxGurl0813 on Apr 29, 2012 at 12:49:00
“The OP was talking about late term abortions. Please try and keep up.”
“"If we chemically castrated all males at puberty, until they filed an affidavit that they're married and their wife wants a child, we'd end both rape and abortion in one fell swoop. Somehow I think you might find that an imposition on your RIGHT TO PRIVACY, or you might believe that it's your body, not the government's. What do you say? "
That is an extremely poor and sexist analogy. The best comparison you can come up with for women without an abortion is involuntarily drugged men? Your opinion of women without an abortion safety net is that low? So it follows you see abortion as a correction to women's *defects* given to them by nature or something. Because, unless you were just being dishonest, it doesn't make sense that you would think it reasonable to compare forcing (potentially harmful) medicine on people to withholding elective procedures.
So no, I don't agree on forcing medicine, particularly medicine with risks of bone density loss, pulmonary embolism, carcinoma, liver toxicity, etc. on healthy people as a form of societal change. I do think sexual enhancement drugs should not be covered by insurance.”
TuoulumneFlower on Apr 26, 2012 at 15:29:43
“I guess you don't know that pregnancy and child birth are potentially harmful, can be fatal, and are always difficult and painful. But hey, what's a few infertile, stroked-out, screaming or dead women between friends, huh?
LOL! It's a sexist analogy to equate men's role in reproduction with women's role in reproduction? Really? I don't know any women who got pregnant by themselves, dear.
What's the problem, me concentrating on the man's role in reproduction, conception, and rape, instead of the woman's? What's the matter, you think that as a man your right to control your own body, your right to decide whether or not to have sex or to reproduce, your right to be free from government interference in those areas is absolutely sacrosanct and inalienable, but WOMEN have no such rights? And you think I am sexist? LOL!
You believe in forcing PREGNANCY on women and CHILDBIRTH on women, and yet you don't think those involve medicine? What planet are you from?”
“"The Catholic Church is still living in the 4th century BC."
IVF was invented in the 20th century, get a grip. For comparison, birth control was illegal in America at the beginning of the 20th century. What kind of weird version of history do you believe where this is a 4th century BC thing (which predates the Catholic Church)? Do you think Alexander the great was carrying out IVFs as he went about conquering southern Asia?”
“In vitro fertilization only became widespread in the 2000s, heck birth control was illegal in America at the beginning of the previous century. How on earth do you get 12th century, early 20th would have worked”
“Do you get your history from propaganda websites and book? Because what you said does not reflect the reality you would get from scholars.
"this is hardly consistent with the Church's tacit support of the death penalty"
The church OPPOSES the death penalty, and not only tacitly, the Council outright states their opposition, "Ending the death penalty would be one important step away from a culture of death and toward building a culture of life.” http://old.usccb.org/deathpenalty/
"...millions and millions put to death by the Papacy over the centuries"
Euclistical courts couldn't put people to death personally. And you are way off on the body count, the bloodiest inquistion by far, the Spanish Inquisition (initiated by the Spanish Monarchy NOT the Papacy), killed about 35,000. http://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm
Unsuprisingly, none of the top 5 nations in Africa with the most AIDS prevelence have a Catholic majority. It is countries like Mali and Benin, with less AIDs prevelence than even some countries outside of Africa like Ukraine that are majority Catholic. Even Estonia's top most atheist population in Europe (Eurobarometer) couldn't give it better AIDS rate than Catholic Benin in the sub-sahara Africa”
dschiff on Apr 30, 2012 at 11:25:56
“You missed the tense of my statement. Past tense. The Church tacitly supported the death penalty for centuries, well through John Paul.