“It was an act of racial and ethnic prejudice. From the beginning it was seen as a way to arrest mexicans and blacks. Later, W. R. Hearst got into things, because hemp was a rival to his timber holdings in supplying pulp for newsprint. He wanted hemp completely banned, and it was. There was never even the slightest genuine scientific reason for making cannabis illegal, and really, there isn't one now.”
“This seems to be more of a complaint about lazy young men than about legal weed. If weed was legal, then these lazy young men would not have that as a source of income. The problem of lazy young men is another issue. Glad that you realized that driving while stoned is not the best thing to do!”
tssent on Oct 23, 2013 at 21:02:05
“I didn't say this was about lazy young men. You said I said that. ”
“So Congress and Staff members are no more exempt than employees of other large businesses. They get coverage from their employer-- the Federal Government-- and looks like they will continue to get it. Just as if they were working for GE or IBM or something. Sen Grassley tried to score a political point (you remember how mad he got when he was asked about his own health coverage?) and the Dems flipped his point and now? Back where it started, it seems.”
“Well, they don't. You have health coverage from your employer, you continue to have health coverage from your employer. The ACA is for those who don't have that coverage, or only have garbage coverage (increasing problem) and need better. The ACA tries to deal with the problem of unaffordable coverage for the self-employed, whose numbers have grown considerably, and for employees of small businesses who aren't offered coverage at all, and for those with expensive pre-existing conditions. The ACA is also an attempt to deal with the basic problem that having 45 million people without health coverage means they wind up at Emergency Rooms etc. and either lose their homes when the hospital wants payment, or else shuck the costs of their treatment onto everyone else. Currently about $1,000 on everyone else's insurance to cover them. Without the ACA or something like it, the whole system will degrade, most likely by large employers choosing plans with high deductibles and poor coverage regimes for their workers.”
“Why would you want minority rule on a legislative issue? The ACA was passed by both houses, tested by Supreme Court and an election that President Obama won handily. Why should a loud, angry minority that held the house only because it is so gerrymandered now, be allowed to demand a change in the law. Try reversing it in your mind. Loud, angry, leftists hold a Republican President up and demand a 50% reduction in military spending, or no deal. Yeah? That works right?”
“The Affordable Care Act, which is the supposed cause of all this, was passed by both houses of Congress and signed by the President into law. A challenge to it was heard by the Supreme Court, which left most of it alone. An election was held last year, in which this act was one of the major points of contention. President Obama was reelected, the Democrats retained the Senate, and would have won the House, but it was so gerrymandered after 2010 that it remained in GOP hands. Now, the GOP, the minority, is demanding the law be dismantled. That is rule by the minority. Why would you blame the President or the Democrats? The blame for all this fussing lies with the extremists in the GOP, who demand to rule, despite having lost last year's election on this issue.”
“Fox news is so biased, it's a joke. C'mon, you know that.
Conservatives are more concerned about America's thirst for foreign oil. The oil market is totally fungible, all that matters is how much it costs, and how much CO2 it requires to obtain it. That is why some people oppose Keystone. Because it will bring tar sands oil to the US.
Not all conservatives are racists, but all genuine racists are conservative. True, yes? Thomas, Cain and West are just weird, angry, goofy and opportunistic. So what?
Nobody supported any invasion of Syria. The Iraq war has cost $1 trillion. Remember when we were told it would cost just $50 billion?
Christians and Muslims can be equally arrogant and objectionable. Nobody defends Islamist extremists, except their lawyers.
Silent prayer or Christian prayers out loud? Separation of Church and State. US Constitution. Sex ed and condoms are one thing, and multi-culturalism is another. Are you saying that Asian Americans and African Americans are not allowed to express their cultures? Not every American came from Europe.
Who says Al Sharpton makes "perfect" sense, or any sense at all? Not I.
You reference "Piss Christ" a 1987 work by Andrea Serrano. That's art. The NEA funds art of all kinds. Is it good art? Is it art that most liberal people would like? Probably not, and probably no. Does that mean that we should censor art? Then we'd be like Putin's Russia, and even like the old USSR! Or Nazi Germany.”
“Agreed. Islam is a source of tension with all neighbors as well as the west. And among the world religions the one that can least accomodate modernity and science. At some point, perhaps not too far off, the assimilation, or non, issue will erupt on both sides.”
“Okay, point taken, and this point is where fundamentalists of all stripes break away from modernity and progress. Islam, for its own reasons, is particularly afflicted with fundamentalist thought. A problem for the whole world, unfortunately.”
CincinnatiRick on Sep 25, 2013 at 13:11:14
“Political correctness seems to forbid us from asking: is, in fact, "militant" Islam at all a distortion? We would like to think that ANY religious faith (including even atheism) is compatible with our society and values. We would like to think that there is no group that cannot be assimilated to our way of life.
Events are now requiring that we reconsider those assumptions. It is quite plausible to think that a "true muslim" is acting appropriately in slaying non-believers and waging jihad by whatever means come to hand. Zealots and zealotry are passe in the West but "moderate" moslems may not have the scriptural high ground to contest the actions of their fundamentalist brethren.
The tension that Muslims living in the West feel should not be so lightly dismissed...it appears to have a sound theological basis. There are significant indications that the assimilation of Muslims to the Western society and values is NOT happening. It could even be argued that the violence of the so-called radicals is an impediment to the long term goal of establishing the worldwide caliphate. We need to stop obsessing over the terrorist methods and focus on the objective...the destruction, by whatever means, of our way of life.”
“Ruling out Jews, Buddhists (of all varieties), Hindus then?”
CincinnatiRick on Sep 24, 2013 at 10:55:34
“Ruling out no one who does NOT have a quarrel with the separation of church (aka religion) and state that is the ideological great, great grandchild of Christ's response to the Pharisees. And, please do remember, I am NOT a Christian. But we owe the brilliant young Rabbi from 2000 years ago much.”
“The War on Drugs has been about arresting cannabis users in huge numbers, and whenever questioned, the Drug Warriors have run cannabis together with heroin and cocaine and methamphetamine (but rarely mentioned alcohol and tobacco) and put it all together as "drugs." Well, it isn't. The point is that the more scrutiny that cannabis receives, and the more comparison it gets with tobacco and alcohol, the better cannabis looks. The truly dangerous drug in the mix is tobacco/nicotine. That's the killer, but can the Drug Warriors admit that?”
“There isn't the political will to control the sale of guns in the US. It won't happen. The Firearms Industry owns the GOP and the Congress. Instead, the US is heading into a social experiment where more and more places will allow open carry. It may be, that outside of a few cities, open carry will become the norm. We will all strap on our Glocks and Sig Sauers as we head out the door, just like we take our phones and our car keys. Maybe, for health insurance reasons, we'll have to start wearing bullet proof items, too. Will that make a difference to crazy, angry people who want to kill others and then die in a hail of bullets? Eventually, we'll find out.”
“No political will exists to change the way guns are sold in the US. Instead, the Gun Industry owns Congress, and will continue to do so. The logical end result will surely be open carry for all, everywhere, except perhaps in a few cities, and on airplanes. We will all strap on our pistols, just like we charge our phones and put them in our pockets with our keys. I expect we'll all begin to wear bullet proof body protection too. That might be necessary for your health insurance coverage. Be hot outdoors, too. At the airport we'll surrender our guns and get them back when we return. Pistols, maybe even rifles, will be locked with thumbprint codes. Watch for micro-stamping on ammunition, that might yet happen. Will it make a difference? Will berserkers who want to die by gunfire after killing others think twice when everyone is armed? Unknown, but this is a social experiment that America seems determined to try.”
“The history of the stretch of territory recently called "Syria" is not included in this article. No mention is made of the fact that Syria, as constructed by the French and British, was basically run by an Alawite Shiite minority, who have a heartland on the coast and allied with other minorities, the Druze and Christians. The majority, Sunni muslim Arabs in the eastern part of the country were excluded from power and massacred when they complained. However, it was felt by the minority groups that the Sunni would just massacre them if they ever obtained power. This remains the basic problem. There is a slow burning war going on between Shia and Sunni muslims. We see it in Iraq, and we see it in Syria.We saw it in Lebanon and may see it there again. In one corner is Iran, the dominant Shia state. In the other Saudi Arabia and the other oil rich Sheikhdoms of the Persian Gulf. That is basic to an understanding of this horrible little war. Also basic is the fact that the whole area was run by the Ottoman Empire for 500 years or more, and the Turks had their own way of keeping the peace. Ancient hatreds, modern weapons, sickening bloodshed.”
Sep 9, 2013 at 11:26:44
“Actually they started with tobacco. That legal drug is the real gateway drug. The gateway drug myth regarding cannabis is a myth. Consider just the raw numbers-- how many millions of Americans have used marijuana? Many. And how many went on to become addicted to, or even to use, heroin? Not many. In that same time period, how many Americans became addicted to alcohol and tobacco? Yeah, right, many, many millions. Time to retire gateway myth.”
Sep 9, 2013 at 11:21:19
“Right. At least Coca leaf is reputed to be pretty harmless, the local equivalent strong coffee. Opiates are more problematical, smoking opium leads to much the same strung out lifestyle as heroin or oxycontin addiction. Maybe society will be able to take a more rational approach to all these things, once Cannabis becomes legal and normalized.”
“More backwash, some of it deadly, from the distortions produced by the War on Drugs. As long as cannabis and ecstasy are illegal, there's more market space for these new sorts of poisons to occupy. Cannabis has not reliably killed anyone directly. Ecstasy (MDMA) has been singled out for frightening headlines due to a small number of deaths, but further research into those deaths nearly always reveals other drugs used in combination with the MDMA, or a misidentification of MDMA when the drug in question was actually another amphetamine. The Institute for the Study of Drug Dependence reported in 1966, that mortality rates for Opiate users (heroin primarily) ran between 1.5% and 3%, for tobacco 0.9%, Alcohol 0.5% and 0.0002% for ecstasy users. Naturally enough, reports like that do not fuel hysterical headlines or television disinformation and are ignored. Until rationality and true objectivity are allowed into the discussion of these things, the "war on drugs" will continue. Partly, I think we can all see, that's because tobacco and alcohol, which are favored poisons used by many elites the world over, are so clearly more dangerous than cannabis, or ecstasy. (or LSD, Psilocybin, Mescaline etc.) It is very hard for those who drink chardonnay, beer or martinis, to allow rational discussion, when they are so very clearly in the wrong, and have been avid hypocrites for so long.”
planetjeffy on Sep 3, 2013 at 23:37:43
“I remember when ecstasy was legal. There were no problems, no ODs, no deaths...just a lot of people having fun.”
“They'll be next. We can expect a lot of wild shrieking and temper tantrums from the whole police/prison apparat as marijuana slips out of their grasp.”
annekeb68 on Aug 31, 2013 at 11:43:06
“Yes, I remember several years ago here in California there was a ballot initiative that would have made possessing one ounce of marijuana or less a $100.00 ticket instead of a crime. The prison guards' union spread their mis-info propaganda and the initiative was defeated. ( Kind of like the religious out of state meddlers who got prop.H8 on the ballot and got it passed). But California got the last laugh. Just before leaving office, governor Ahnold. signed a law doing just what that ballot initiative set out to do.”
“Shrieks of desperation. They can see the end of the easy funding stream for making marijuana arrests. And there's the old "gateway drug" nonsense, and something about impaired driving and suicidal thoughts. Let the police go back to doing real police work. Legalize cannabis and
if the state is determined to protect us from opiates, cocaine and methamphetamine, let them concentrate on those. Mind you, truth of the matter is, tobacco is far and away the most addicting and lethal drug. I don't see them making it illegal anytime soon.”
“Sure cocaine is a powerful drug, and it's a little bit more addictive than alcohol according to major studies. But consider the vast army of those who've used it a few times, even more than a few times, and then gone on to not using it, as well as becoming everything from CEOs to famous authors to competent auto mechanics and great teachers. In other words, this isn't very predictive science here. Can we now waste some more mice by trying this with 1/alcohol 2/ tobacco 3/ sugar? 4/internet porn?”