“USA was instrumental in setting up a dispute between China and Japan over the Diaoyu Islands -- A cursory understanding of the San Francisco Treaty would tell you that (A Treaty for which China was not invited [neither the Nationalists or the CCP] to sign).”
“I remember the same blame tactic used on Japan back in the 80's. Americans have the tendency to blame others for their problems instead of looking internally and reflect on the issues at hand. US forced Japan to revalue the Yen through the Plaza accord, which lead to recession in Japan we still see today. The same thing will not happen to China, they have learned.
First, USA does not have a viable manufacturing base because of the exorbitant salaries, lack of manufacturing innovation, not because of China.
Second, The Yuan has appreciated 30% since 2005. During this time, the US trade deficit with China have grown substantially. China for its part know it has to revalue the Yuan to fight the US exported inflation from the Dollar debasement exercise called quantitative easing, but they will do this on their own time table.
Third, here's a incomplete list of illegal American subsidies: cotton, corn, wheat, aerospace, ethanol.
Fourth, USA did a lot complaining of China not doing enough to counter global warming prior to the Copenhagen conference. Now China is pouring billions into renewable energies, US is complaining that it's doing too much to drive down the cost of solar and wind. They just can't seem to get it right. What the Americans want is for China to buy over-priced US manufactured solar panels and wind turbines, not driving down the price for the rest of the world so these renewable could in fact reach grid parity.”
“More likely the Dalai Lama goaded the monks into self immolation. This is just in time to take advantage of the Arab Spring. Just like 1987-1989 Tibet riots were orchestrated by the Dalai Lama to take advantage of the unraveling of Eastern Europe and unrest in China. And just like the 2008 Tibet riots were orchestrated by the Dalai Lama to take advantage of the 2008 Olympics. These events are just too coincidental, don't you think? Pure politics behind the clock of religion and spirituality. Game's been played before. Old dogs can't learn new tricks.”
wavesofgreen on Oct 29, 2011 at 11:20:44
“Next time try to use "americanisms" that aren't from the 1950s and it will be a bit less obvious that you're posting from Bejing.”
cuoi on Oct 29, 2011 at 11:02:08
“Where did you get that idea?”
tomjefferson2005 on Oct 29, 2011 at 10:59:26
“bobdoe:Tibet riots were orchestrated by the Dalai Lama to take advantage of the unraveling of Eastern Europe and unrest in China. And just like the 2008 Tibet riots were orchestrated by the Dalai Lama to take advantage of the 2008 Olympics. ...................Reply: Prove it. If you think Communist China is so great, move there.”
HarmonTerr on Oct 29, 2011 at 10:53:38
“bobdoe, try it. You might like it.”
HailSinfonia on Oct 29, 2011 at 10:51:32
“His first sentence betrays the fact that he's somewhere in China at a government computer, probably in the same office that conducts cyber warfare against us.”
Stephen G Ford on Oct 29, 2011 at 10:33:00
“China needs to start paying you SHILLS better... this article was put up at 5:00 AM... you didn't SPEW until 10! WHAT'S UP WITH THAT??? It's really FUNNY to hear you say "OLD DOGS CAN'T LEARN NEW TRICKS though! (How much are you PAID per post BTW???”
Gadgetman on Oct 29, 2011 at 10:28:05
“Your first sentence betrays the fact that you don't have a clue about who this Dalai Lama is.”
“Sany America is hiring. CNOOC wanted to come in to the US, but US politicians blocked their buyout bid in fears that oil drilling bits could be used to build weapons :) The current trend in corporate China is to buy African, South American and Europe, because they encounter less political resistance there. To put simply, USA haven't put out the welcome mat for the Chinese to do business here.”
“Simple, a college degree is simply not enough in today's economy. Better bulk up on the engineering and science fields if you want to compete. If you want to compare against China, they are churning out more engineers than any other country. If you look at quality of their students (Shanghai and most recently Beijing) ranked at the top of PISA testing (2010 and 2011). You don't even need to go to China to see this. Chinese students by far do better than your average white American in US schools.
The age of entitlement is over. We need to get to stop complaining, stop blaming others, and get to work.”
“China is having problems with growth, USA is having problems with decline. There is a real difference between the two. Of course there will be corrections along the way for China, just like the USA had a number of corrections in the last 100 years. The same camp of people who say China will crash and ruin the world also say China's economy is too small to save the world. Neither is true. This current slowing is in fact exactly what the Chinese government wanted. We imported our inflation via QE1-QE2 to the developing countries. And pacing the their economy is one way to fight inflation. In the long term, the only remaining option for them is to float their currency (adjusting interest rate and liquidity can only go so far in China). When that happens (and some idiot American politicians actually ask for), you'll see the US treasury yield hitting the roof, and OUR economy will crash down and bring the world to its knees.
If you understand anything about economics and Chinese history, you'll understand their rebound onto the world stage is only at the beginning stages. Read history, this is a 100-500 year old cycle, my friend.”
“All that Chinese "junk" are American branded "junk," so in actuality, you are buying American "junk." you keep buying all that "junk" because the quality is at or above par at the price you're paying for. It's because thick-headed people like you that America is not growing. Those job that "destroyed" American manufacturing base are not coming back to the US, unless you want to be paid as same as them. If China is not the cheapest source, these jobs are going to Vietnam, Cambodia, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, etc.
What this country needs is a higher level of manufacturing base, not trying to compete against third-world countries mentioned above. And that requires higher levels of education, an education you sorely need.”
sillygames on Oct 18, 2011 at 10:31:30
“Okay, then bobdoe, how do you explain all the people I know with Big College Degrees and some with MBA's that aren't working.”
“Chinese RMB has gained 30% against the US Dollar since 2005. The trade gap also expanded substantially during this time. What makes the US politicians think a float of the RMB now is going to help US-China trade gap, and the US economy, when the data since 2005 shows differently? And if the Chinese does revalue the RMB substantially, wouldn't that send the US treasury yield through the roof, and negatively impact the economy here?”
“This reminds me of the Americans deliver sterilized crops as food aid. Now they want to do the same thing in technology. If only it's that easy.
Why would the Chinese need to steal? The hub of American technology, Bay Area, is full of Chinese engineers. Chinese high school students came on top of the 2010 PISA tests (reading, science, and math), and have been on top of math, physics, chemistry, informatics Olympiads for the last 20 years. Chinese college students won the 2011 ACM International Collegiate Programming Contest, Chinese graduate the most engineers, and are most inventive people on Earth (go read Joseph Needham's "Science and Civilisation in China.").
If any one is stealing, most likely the US, stealing China's talent.”
“US ethanol is exported http://goo.gl/X2vr, and you know they are heavily subsidized by the US government :)”
danny sun on Oct 17, 2010 at 16:23:27
“The US lost a WTO challege by Brazil on cotton subsidy. Brazil was awarded the largest counter punitive damage incl on American intellectual property.
Two points, the Union claim had two parts, the other was a monolpoly on rare earth metals by China. There is no case on this part as proven by past claims thrown out but the main point is that the US can not mfg Clean air technology without the rare earth. The second point is that China is defined as a developing country and is privileged under WTO agreements signed. Ron Kirk lost in this Doha round against China trying to take away this advantage. You have to see the US never estimated China to progress so fast in the last ten years and made a big mistake signing the last WTO agreement which is binding.
You cant tell me the US have no ambition to export mfg Clean Air parts or equipment abroad when those US companies made bids in China? Lets just wait to see how this unfolds, if the US takes a risk and challege in the WTO then it just might kill the Clean Air jobs in the US. Dont forget the European is right in the middle of this and they will retaliate.”
JamesJerico on Oct 16, 2010 at 20:55:25
“Likewise, I think Brazil has already challenged us on ethanol and perhaps even taken retaliatory action:
“So you say we do nothing new on the trade front and just force the Chinese to appreciate the Yuan, because you think that along will be enough to balance the trade? I say appreciate the Yuan will do damage to both countries: China loses export based jobs, US pay more for consumer products, those jobs in China won't return back to the US because they'll just go to another third world country that's less efficient than China, and trade deficit will continue to grow because we'll just continue to import more and more without actually producing anything useful to anybody else.
China, China Yuan, China subsidies in clean tech. are just red herrings, convenient scapegoats. The real problem is US political gridlocked: no ideas [besides debasing the dollar even further compare to all major currencies (and you say China is artificially making it's currency cheap :)], no directions, no actions.
US and Russia both stole military technology from Germany and each other. What's new?”
JamesJerico on Oct 16, 2010 at 21:18:52
“I'm just saying given our history of trade with China and the Russian example it would be unwise for us to jump in and give them our leading edge technology. Maybe some day if we ever can form a real alliance based on trust, but right now the future is looking uncertain.
The Yuan issue is just a side show for a much more complicated problem. A Yuan increase would make the remaining non-labor intensive American industries more competitive but won't help bring back many factories that have already left, at least not for many years given the amount of capital required to do so. The primary reason for the trade imbalance is an economic structural imbalance between the US and China, part caused by real comparative advantages like cheap labor, and part caused by artificial comparative advantages like the difference between government involvement in each economy. I don't see this imbalance resolving itself without direct action by one or both governments.
Debasing our currency against all other currencies is dangerous in that it will push the price of raw materials and energy up. However, given the current fiscal deficit level I'm not sure there is any other choice, we're living with an inflated lifestyle.”
“Also, don't be fool into the argument of the Chinese buying more American products if the American dollar is further debased. The high tech. products they want to buy from USA are export controlled -- they are treated like weapons, and companies exporting them to China need export licenses from the federal government. So unless you allow them to buy things they actually want to buy from the US and not the cheap stuff they can make themselves, debased the dollar will have no effect on trade imbalances.”
JamesJerico on Oct 16, 2010 at 19:55:16
“First, those high tech products alone would be nowhere near enough to balance the trade deficit. Second if you lifted the "China" restrictions on those products there is not much to stop the manufacturing of such products from being moved to China if they are no longer deemed sensitive. And third, why would we sensitive military related technology to a country that is shaping up to be our top competitor.
Russia has been exporting China high tech military purpose technology for years, but now China has learned their technology Russia technology exports have plummeted.
“Here's what's absurd: bashing China without any merit for political gain.
Ask any economist, and they will tell you, strengthening the Chinese Yuan will have very little effect on American jobs. Very few people in the USA are willing to be employed in the kinds of the jobs in China: textile, clothing, low-tech manufacturing, etc. What will happen if the Yuan does strengthen substantially is the jobs will go to countries like Vietnam, Bangladesh, India, and Americans will only end up paying more for consumer good.
Let's not forget that the Yuan has appreciated almost 20% since 2005 (http://goo.gl/uJmZ). Another 20-40% appreciation right at this minute like what the US senator are pushing for? Don't expect China to respond kindly. The irresponsible party seems to the the USA administration. Bernanke have debased the dollar to record highs against most major currencies, at the same breath talk about the necessity of another QE. With what? Borrowed money from China?
As for clean technology. Name me one USA clean tech. company (from ethanol to solar) that is not subsidized by the US government. The reason the Chinese are winning in clean tech. is because they have made it top priority. Time to stop whining if your priorities are else where.”
“Of course you would, this is accordance to Chinese law. By the same token, if you go to Dharamsala and tell people you are a beliver of Dorje Shugden, you would be killed, because it's been outlawed by the Dalai Lama.
David McDonald is a British colonialist with associations to Francis Younghusband. Heinrich Harrer and Peter Aufschnaiter have associations to the Nazi party. None of them are scholars. These are hardly reliable sources of historic information as compared to someone like Melvyn Goldstein, who by the way have been studying Tibetan language, culture, and history since the 60's and have been to Tibet many, many times.”
“While the Dalai talks about an autonomous region, some people under him and Tibetan groups financially supported by the National Endowment for Democracy talk of an independent state. Since there is no consensus voice, who should China listen to?
1. Transformation of the whole of Tibet into a zone of peace;
2. Abandonment of China's population transfer policy which threatens the very existence of the Tibetans as a people;
3. Respect for the Tibetan people's fundamental human rights and democratic freedoms;
4. Restoration and protection of Tibet's natural environment and the abandonment of China's use of Tibet for the production of nuclear weapons and dumping of nuclear waste;
5. Commencement of earnest negotiations on the future status of Tibet and of relations between the Tibetan and Chinese peoples.
The Dalai is asking for an ethnically-cleansed Tibet (25% of Chinese territory, and which by the way violates article 13 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights) with himself (or the next Dalai he would now pick) as the head of church and state. How can the Chinese NOT laugh at him? This is not a plan, this is a joke.”
“Why don't you read Melvyn C. Goldstein's book "The Snow Lion and the Dragon: China, Tibet, and the Dalai Lama" or any other books by Goldstein to gain a general understanding of the history of Tibet before you write about Tibet? From what it appears, you understand nothing right now.”
Heather Reddick on Mar 19, 2009 at 17:00:52
“bobdoe: you should try reading a book about Tibet written by a TIBETAN.”