“It is absolutely not "rare" to find great wines in a club format. Many small wineries offer some of their best selections only through their club. These used to be called "mailing lists" however in today's jargon they are another form of wine club. Wine clubs - like wines themselves - can vary widely in quality.”
Patootsky on Aug 15, 2013 at 00:10:50
“We're probably in agreement captain - perhaps it was just the semantics.”
“mmmm so HuffPo now positions advertisements as news stories from their "tastemakers?"
Don't be fooled people - this isn't the wine club you're looking for...”
rowlglass on Aug 28, 2013 at 20:16:51
“Totally concur. Unless you know NOTHING about wine - I mean you don't even know why people swirl their wine - this is waaay too simplistic for you. I tried their wine samples & they were all boring. I could do better at any Whole Foods with a decent wine buyer.”
“Actually - no. There are many wine clubs offered by small artisan wineries that offer great wines at good prices. What you're referring to are the clubs advertised by large companies and affiliations like the NY Times and WSJ, etc. I would stay away from those.”
Patootsky on Aug 14, 2013 at 13:10:29
“I did say "most wines offered by wine clubs..." though not all of course.
It would be possible - although rare - to find a "great" wine through a club. There are many specialized smaller clubs. But most clubs offer very ordinary wine in my opinion. Most people join these clubs because that are not that familiar with wine and what a "great" wine could taste like. They can thus be easily convinced for example that simply "big and jammy" means "great". Of course it always comes down to ones personal taste in the final analysis.”
“Sorry no. In this civil land we're supposed to be guaranteed the right to vote. One shouldn't need to have a drivers license or passport. - its an unalienable right - the most basic of rights we have. II don't care how you want to wrap this up and sell it, it's a transparent attempt to curb voting plain and simple.”
“Dana Cowin's video on bio dynamics is truly pathetic. This woman who is no less the editor-in-chief of one of the country's top wine and food publications has an astonishingly poor grasp of what BD wine is. Steiner never said a word about wine nor how to make it. It continues to amaze me how little the average American understands science and what it means. With presentations like this one by Ms. Cowin it's no wonder our nation continues to underachieve in the fields of science and technology. Next time you go on video - please try to do a little homework”
“Also interesting because he's made his fortune selling government sponsored and certified organic foods. All run through a central government authorizing body called the National Organic Program NOP. It's what makes the products he sells more valuable in the marketplace. Sounds like he's biting the hand that's feeding him if you ask me. Or should we call it organic hypocrisy?”
“Yes it's way far from perfect but it was a lot worse before it was regulated. They actually do inspect the farms and sign off on whether a grower can use organic certification on their products.That's what they do
It was in fact the organic growers themselves who argued that anyone could use the organic terminology without truly following organic practices. They wanted the program and now it is indeed the only official program in place nationwide.”
“Actually its the NOP (National Organic Program) that has codified and implements the regulations around organic food. It wasn't until this government organization was in place that consumers had some security in knowing that food labeled organic actually had to pass a set of standards”
trashcup on Jan 20, 2013 at 22:08:16
“Interesting that no one knows who or what the NOP is or what they do? Do they put stickers on the organic food? Do they inspect the farms? All sorts of things are called organic that aren't. Lots of things claim they're organic and they aren't. It's ridiculous to think they are just because the NOP says so.”
“Do you honestly think all wine is the same - that it's all made the same?
People need to realize that the $3 red wine is not even "real" wine. It's the equivalent of American Cheese in the dairy case. This is a mass-produced wine,chemically manipulated and sweetened that was purchased by Trader Joes to hit a vein in the mass market.
Not clear on where its grown, how much water was added and what other additives were used to create a wine beverage at a low price with mass appeal. I really don't think you'd want to see how this wine was made - but it probably tastes just fine.
That being said just because a wine is expensive doesn't mean its going to be good. There is plenty of overpriced juice on the market. My advice is that life's too short to just drink the cheapest wine you can find. Do a little homework and you'll find lots of delicious stuff made by passionate people who grow their own fruit and really care about what they do. There's a big difference between a product made by a family company and a mega-factory.”
“The old adage that scewcaps designate a cheap wine is clearly dead. Scewcaps work very well and are particularly good for early to drink white wines. But let's not lose sight of the fact that corks are still a very good closure and probably still the best around for red wines that need a little oxidation to age well in the bottle. There is no shortage of cork in the world and a good quality cork (selected and treated appropriately) will provide a couple of decades of closure in a bottle.”
“Message to all disaffected, young, male, suburban white misanthropes looking to grab some guns and cause some damage. You want real glory? Go on and head over to this guy's office and knock yourself out. The rest of the country will thank you.”