“How many times in history does mankind have to go through this nonsense of believing that somehow the people have the ability to hold the reigns and retain control over this ever growing, power consuming, behemoth that fails at most of what it tries? Even those programs established with good intentions spiral out of control or fall flat on their face. Last week the current occupant of the White House bemoaned the difficulties in setting up Obamacare and blamed much of it on huge, old, inefficient, obsolete government agencies. That is precisely what many of us have been saying for years. Too big. Too powerful. Too invasive. Now these same fools are telling us that the website is almost as good as private ones...............Wow, 3 years, a billion dollars, ten times as many lines of code, no security, and it still doesn't work and yet their benchmark is the private websites..............as in non governmental. The government was supposed to be us......................now it is an entity unto itself and answering little to us.”
“So at what point do you "angry old liberals" finally figure out that more government is NOT the answer as big government and big corporations are joined at the hip? It doesn't matter which party and it doesn't matter who is President. The only possible answer is exactly what our founding fathers feared, fought, and predicted.............unrestricted government will continue to grow beyond any sensible limits and will usurp power that it should not have and must, therefore, be reigned in, cut down to size, and limited to only those tasks spelled out in the constitution.”
Human1984 on Dec 9, 2013 at 09:46:10
“I am an angry old liberal, but never did fall for that anti-government rhetoric.
The government is us, and is very useful for us., if it is done correctly and openly.”
“Now I know how the native Americans felt dealing with the federal government.........nothing but lies and broken promises. Obama likes to position himself as the savior of the "folks" all the while in bed with Wall Street, big bankers, big pharma and especially big insurance companies who will reap gazillions with Obamacare. The youth of this country, who overwhelmingly supported Obama, will be his biggest victims as they will get stuck picking up the tab for enriching the coffers of big corporations.”
“And it was reported that during the last round of protests SEIU paid workers $75.00 to walk off the job and protest. Totally manufactured. I love the sign "we are worth more".................okay, I think my house is worth twice what the appraiser says.......kind of a moot point unless you can find someone willing to pay it.”
“Another protest bought and paid for by the rabble rousers at SEIU.
When will they figure out that companies don't set labor rates based upon the financial need of the employee............they are based upon the law of supply and demand. Right now there is an over supply of low skilled, or no skilled, workers. If people want to make more money they are going to have to improve their skills so they have something more to offer an employer other than just a warm body. I know that sounds cruel, but such is life. The beauty of America is that SEIU or anyone else who feels that labor rates are too low is more than welcome to open their own business and pay whatever rates they feel compelled to pay. They never do because they know it won't work and it's not as easy as sitting back and demanding someone else do something. In typical liberal fashion, they are really good at spending money as long as it isn't theirs.”
“Damned computer cut off part of my second sentence. It was supposed to read "I sure haven't seen any statistics that bore that out".
One more thing..............our economy has changed dramatically. Capital is now far more fluid and flexible than ever before. We are in a world economy, not just a local or even national one. Push the labor rates just one step too far and, with a couple of keystrokes, jobs are moved to other countries just as the automakers have done by shipping much of their manufacturing to Mexico and other countries where labor is much less expensive. Are you going to try and regulate that also?”
“What is your source for the 70% and most of them working at Walmart? I sure haven't
Where did you ever get the idea that companies were responsible for paying wages that met some social need or were determined by the financial need of the worker? Similarly, where did you get the idea that companies are some kind of extension of the social welfare program?. Plain and simple, companies are in business to make money. Wages, just like supplies, are subject to the laws of supply and demand. With the economy we have had for the past five years the supply of low skilled, or no skilled, workers far exceeds the demand. If you want higher labor rates then you need to spur the economy so that there is a shortage of workers, or get workers trained so that they have something more to offer an employer than just a warm body. Artificially raising labor rates via laws will only result in a spiral of inflation that will leave workers right back where they started.”
“Whoa..........that is way too much common sense!. You go around preaching that kind of stuff and someone is going to declare you a menace and lock you up.
The type of program you are discussing is exactly how our town handled folks who were down on their luck when I was young. They were told to report for work Monday morning. They were put to work on road or cemetery crews until they got back on their feet. They learned new jobs, they earned their money, and kept their self respect. A win-win for everyone including the taxpayers. When LBJ made welfare a federal project all of that went down the drain. The poor held out their hand and were handed a check, food stamps, fuel assistance, etc. etc. I guess that is why my current "help wanted" ad offering a starting wage of $11.00 an hour for menial labor has attracted so little attention. I wish I could use that as justification to stop submitting unemployment taxes to the state and federal government.
We are going to have to either rethink our entire welfare program in this country or it will soon destroy us financially.”
sksnyder25 on Dec 5, 2013 at 11:35:59
“Only problem with your post is 70% of people on welfare ARE employed. Most of them work for Wal-Mart. So until the employer starts paying a livable wage welfare will continue. Minimum wage should be raised so these people can afford to feed their families.”
“Nice that a wonderful, highly educated family from Germany whose children will be taken away from them if deported back to Germany, don't get the same break that this bum will get. I guess they made the mistake of not being black or sneaking across the border.”
Bob Pante on Dec 3, 2013 at 21:14:44
“No they need to get a few DUI's like Obamas uncle. Then they get to stay.”
jbjap on Dec 3, 2013 at 21:01:10
“Or being obama's family.”
dsb1252 on Dec 3, 2013 at 20:59:59
“Will if they are getting deported they did sneak across the border.”
“You have that totally backwards. It is the behemoth government taking control of things that it has absolutely no constitutional basis for being involved in that is the problem. Unnecessary waste, red tape, and opportunity for malfeasance is the definition of the federal government.”
“Yeah, that shareholder profit sure is a nasty thing. Those of us investing our money should be willing to provide it free of charge so the schools can continue to supply us with hundreds of thousands more individuals with degrees in philosophy, sociology, art history, ethnomusicology, etc. because we don't have enough of those already.
Funny how the same capitalist system that built, and sustains, the colleges and universities of this country gets slammed by so many as evil.......especially by professors making 6 figure salaries while working a part time job.”
Laffincrow on Dec 3, 2013 at 11:01:30
“David: I do hear what you're saying. The thing that's happening is that MUCH FEWER people are even able to "invest our money". There's nothing wrong with making a profit. That being said, it seems like that is ALL it's about anymore, be damned the people. Let's not knock the philosophers, artists and musicians. They are the ones who help keep the "grander vision" alive with their creativity. I sure hope you can see that. It takes ALL KINDS of people to make this beautiful tapestry, and I mean all kinds. There are doers and thinkers, movers and shakers, etc. ALL have enormous value.
Do you not see that the volume of, let's say, food, continues to shrink, yet the price goes up? When incomes aren't going up for the majority, what does that writing on the wall say to you? Maybe you don't notice because you don't necessarily need to watch your money. MANY of us DO and it's a frightening view. This does NOT appear to be sustainable in my mind. Many have ALREADY eliminated discretionary items, yet, due to continued rising prices, find ourselves in the very same boat we were trying to get out of. I believe this is where the philosophy comes in. We have GOT to start thinking outside the box for this country to THRIVE rather than simply survive. We are at a crossroads.”
“Now there are the sentiments of a child of the entitlement mentality generation. Tell me, do we owe you something? There are lots of people out here working their butts off to make it on their own. Why should our tax dollars go to support your quest for a degree that will make you more money and a better life for you and for your family. The "bloodsuckers" who invest their money in Sallie Mae have a right to a return on their investment.
With the absolutely deplorable rate of delinquency and nonpayment of student loans the rate should be about triple the prime rate.”
“My original post was in jest. We are already experiencing changes in the food ecosystem. Here in the extreme far north they have been both positive and negative Our growing season is definitely longer, but along with that we are encountering new invasive species of plants and insects. The solution is simple...............regardless of whether or not you believe in man made global climate change............do the right thing because it is the right thing............conserve energy, recycle, etc. If we do, in the end it won't matter which side was right or wrong, we will be ahead of the curve.”
“Reasons why a global warming shortened winter is good thing.......
1. We need less fuel to heat our homes.
2. Our cars will get better gas mileage when it's warmer.
3. Beautiful girls can shed those damned parkas sooner.
4. We won't need as much hay to feed our cows which will save fuel.
5. Plants will grow more thereby absorbing more carbon.
6. Less snow and ice means less car accidents
7. Ski areas are major wasters of energy........along with the skiers who
drive to the mountains.......close em down!
8. Less snow means less salt on our roads......less pollution and less damage
to cars. They will last longer thereby saving natural resources and energy.
9. A longer growing season means fewer fruits and veggies will have to be
trucked into northern regions.
10. I won't have to shovel as much of that frozen white crap!!!
“But if winters are warmer, millions of us in the north won't have to burn anywhere near as much fossil fuels to heat our homes and that will help reduce global warming right? Nor will we need to run our cars for ten minutes to warm them up and defrost them. We win either way!!! Anything that shortens winter can't be all bad!!!”
catboycolo on Dec 3, 2013 at 00:12:10
“Don't worry, you'll be just fine…your grandkids will be F$@#&D, though. Have fun with that reality.”
ubrew12 on Dec 2, 2013 at 23:21:27
“"can't be all bad!!" A hundred years from now, our grandchildren will call us the 'can't be all bad' generation.”
terryhas on Dec 2, 2013 at 23:19:11
“Weeell, there are some other...affects that have to do with what they call a delicate food ecosystem.”
“Incredible tunnels continue to be discovered that have been in use for who knows what. Hundreds of thousands continue to enter this country illegally every year primarily via our southern border. If the border is porous enough to permit the illegal entry of hundreds of thousands then it remains a potential entry point for terrorists. Saying that border arrests are at an all time high and that there are more border agents now than ever before demonstrates only one thing...............you are far more interested in defending the government than you are at seeing this problem in realistic terms.”
kalidescopemind on Dec 2, 2013 at 17:03:40
“And "realistically" what do you propose to do about it? More border guards? Wow!”
“And it certainly does not help provide any sense of security knowing that our borders are essentially wide open to any potential terrorist who choses to run across them and take up residence here in the good old USA. Hell, if they hang around long enough we will even make them citizens so as to make it even easier for them to plan their attacks.”
kalidescopemind on Dec 1, 2013 at 20:29:06
“Border arrests are at an all time high. The border has more agents now than at any time in history. Sorry, what you say doesn't wash.”
“You sure have a strange way of looking at things. Labor rates are not set based upon the financial need of the worker. Rates are set based upon the law of supply and demand and there sure isn't much demand for many of those folks working at Walmart. You can blame a lot of things for that , but that isn't the fault of Walmart. If you want to see labor rates improve then you need to get government out of the way of the economy so that the number of jobs, and thus the demand for workers increases. Companies are not in business to act as social service agencies. The customer who voluntarily steps up to the register is getting ripped off? How? Most of those Walmart employees are lucky to have any job at all and if they feel like they are getting ripped off then they can always take their talents to the open market place and try to do better, but either way, the customer is not getting ripped off. If anything , the customer is benefitting from lower priced goods.”
“Those same mom and pop stores would have been put out of business by the internet if not for Walmart. They can't compete on choice or price. I remember one of our local stores that had a sign saying "if we don't have it, you don't need it" and I often thought, no, you don't have it, and yes I do need it. For years I had to drive 70 miles to buy the things I needed. Now the little store is gone, replaced by Lowes, Home Depot, Walmart and the internet and I don't miss that arrogant little store at all. Things change. Retail has evolved. Walmart is not the source of all evil.......it just happens to be the current fad target of people who live to follow fads.”
“You are willing to destroy Walmart because they sell goods made in China? Why are you singling out Walmart? Why aren't you attacking damned near every retail outlet in the country and all of the product manufacturers who have sent those jobs to China? I find it disgusting how so many will jump on the latest fad and immediately attack Walmart, or Paula Dean, or whoever is deemed to be the latest target. It comes down to, if you don't like Walmart don't work there and don't shop there, but along with the perceived shortcomings, Walmart does a whole lot of good for a whole lot of people. Walmart employs people who might otherwise have a very difficult time finding work and sells goods at prices that the nation's disadvantaged can afford.”
Patty Flaherty on Dec 1, 2013 at 13:21:22
“Hope you feel better now. I suppose you do not care that we taxpayers are footing the bill for necessities for the low paid Walmart workers while the Walton family and investors are filthy rich. I would call that a shortcoming and I would not call that a "whole lot of good" for the nation's disadvantaged. I call that ripping off the customer who voluntarily steps up to the register.”
“Good idea. Maybe if enough of us do the same we can put the millions who work for Walmart, and the many more millions who manufacture for Walmart or drive trucks delivering to Walmart, out of jobs. That will teach them a lesson!!! Then those damned poor people can go back to paying higher prices for everything.”
bcbell on Nov 30, 2013 at 19:27:32
“but that we could turn back the clock and have stopped all the Walmarts b4 killing off all the mom & pop stores and kept our moral compass and middle class.”
Patty Flaherty on Nov 30, 2013 at 18:53:44
“And what is in those Walmart trucks? Goods from China as WM is the biggest importer of Chinese made goods in this country. We are doing nothing but improving the Chinese economy. You want jobs here? Stop Walmart and perhaps we can start manufacturing again. BTW, who and where are the MILLIONS who manufacture for Walmart if not in China?”
“I am an employer in an industry that is notorious for taking advantage of these people and it makes me sick. Naturally I am angry that I must compete with companies that pay immigrants half the going rate, and off the books so that they don't have to pay any unemployment insurance, workers comp, liability, social security, medicare, etc. I am also angry that these folks, because they came here illegally, can be exploited like slaves by unscrupulous businessmen and there is little that the victims can do about it. I want to see penalties severe enough to get the attention of those employers in order to bring this practice to an end.
There are surely areas we can all agree on as you have demonstrated.
Have a nice Thanksgiving.”