“Seriously bad editting. Why would atheists and satanists be grouped together in this story? There is almost no information about the satanists and the sentence construction in the first paragraph left me wondering wether the atheists and satanists were connected. Atheists renting a billboard is a reasonable story. A couple of D-bags renting a hotel conference room is not a story.”
Citizen13 on Sep 10, 2010 at 17:26:51
M A Ross on Sep 10, 2010 at 17:10:43
“Funny I was thinking the same thing...
At the bottom of the story it seperates them...
"Singer, from the atheists' group, said his group has no connection to the Satanists.
"As far as Satan goes, we don't believe in him either," he said."”
Surge1000 on Sep 10, 2010 at 16:32:32
“Agreed, especially considering the atheists would consider the Satanists just as irrational as any other theists.
It's like conflating atheists with Catholics because neither are Protestant.”
“Why is this not news? This was the only reference I saw to this today. Is there some unspoken code where major news organizations cannot do serious reporting on such overtly misleading reporting if its done by another major news organization (I know, I know FOX isn't a "real" news organization). If this was on CNN or MSNBC FOX would be all over it.”
Dennis on Aug 24, 2010 at 10:44:51
“The unspoken code is, "We won't investigate you and you won't investigate us."”
RockydaDog on Aug 24, 2010 at 10:41:38
“It has occurred to me that Saudi's may own big chunks of ALL news organizations.”
Ramirez on Aug 24, 2010 at 10:40:35
“The other networks have no interest in investigating the funding of the mosque. It doesn't fit the narrative.”
cct on Aug 24, 2010 at 10:38:47
“Yes there probably is an unspoken code. Welcome to monopoly media capitalism...”
“I admit, I'm a Democrat and watch Fox news occasionally just to see how far off the mark they are. However, there are no similar donations from real news organizations because Fox would have shouted it from the mountain tops if it happened.”
“The only reason I ever respected this guy was for the ordeal he suffered and as a foil against Bush after 2000. But let's face it, the only reason he was ever a "maverick" was his hurt feeling over the 2000 primaries. The man is just one big bundle of hurt feelings.”
“Why would we need a President's opinion on whether a mosque "should" be built? The only opinion that is necessary is what the Federal government's place in this discussion should be. That is only that we protect the rights to build in accordance to law.”
“I have to admit I wasn't really paying attention during the first incarnation of Newt, but this latest incarmation is really getting on my nerves. So sad that I wasted time on his alternate history of WWII. Props to Scarborough I guess, for bucking the trend.”
“When did they plan to slap america in the face? When they spoke with community leaders, built support including family members of victims of 911, proposed to build a community center that was overwhelmingly approved by the community board?”
“So all you needed was an extremist completely unrelated to the issue at hand, not a New Yorker, not an American, to wade in and you're all decided and your fellow Americans who disagree have no sense at all, huh?
The dirty secret of hard-line politics: The greatest ally of a hard-liner is an extremist from the other side. Because without 'em the hard-liner doesn't exist.”
“What? Obama said the government should stop the building of the prayer center!?!? Oh wait no, its just another idiot. The only thing Obama said the other day is they have a right to build on private property according to local laws. This isn't simply a question of do you support or oppose the mosque. It's do you want the government to intervene in the development of private property or not and Obama was quite clear that the government should not intervene. Like Obama, I couldn't care less what's built 2 blocks from the WTC. I just care that rights aren't trampled to spare the feelings of a minority.”
“We won't accept a prayer center 2 blocks away from the world trade center site but we'll put up with every goofball wanting to cash in on 911 to get votes or win an argument. Hey I'm a New Yorker and was seething with rage every time Guiliani gave a speech during the 2008 Republican primary. Can we revoke his citizenship or something?”
“Perhaps the best response for Obama would have been "as far as I can tell no one has opposed the mosque on any legal basis and until they do it is a non-issue." Okay, so maybe he couldn't say non-issue but you get the point. This is how you tell a non-issue just cooked up to get people angry and voting in November. Not one single reasonably legal opposition has been raised to the mosque and POTUS shouldn't have addressed it until it was. We don't legislate on hurt feelings (or at least we shouldn't).”
rubinoff on Aug 16, 2010 at 10:31:13
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“A quick Wikipedia search will tell you Hoyle is by no stretch of the imagination a cutting edge anything. He was an atronomer and a proponent of the now out of fashion steady state universe. His number crunching is largely derided as Hoyle's Falacy.
I agree that Evolutionary science and theology aren't diametrically opposed, but I would continue they don't even belong in the same conversation, much like Galileo's theories had nothing to do with theology, if you are religious these theories are investigations into God's hand at work. If you are not religious they are investigations into how the world around you works.
The only time they come into conflict are when nuts claim they know how the world works because God explained it to them in the Bible or other nuts claim science proves God doesn't exist through some ridiculously flawed logic. Both views are incredibly arrogant.”