“The choice argument is ridiculous. It does suggest a defensive stance and I don't agree with that. There is nothing to defend, as there is nothing wrong. Anyway, even if it was a choice, nothing justifies discrimination. Nothing!
You cannot fix me, I am not broken.”
“"It's not a ‘gay marriage,' it’s just ‘a marriage." Exactly!
We will get our ‘GAY MARRIAGE.’ The law will call it MARRIAGE but society won’t. If we call it ‘gay marriage’ on our lead up to equality, what makes us think that it’ll stop being ‘gay marriage’ AFTER the laws reflect equality? That the marriage between two people of the same gender won’t always be seen as something different…
‘Gay marriage’ furthers the misconception that we’re looking for something different, something special, some form of preferential treatment. ‘Gay marriage’ cannot apply to every body equally – marriage can. We are compromising equality for sake of convenient and catchy slogans. ‘Gay marriage’ this, ‘gay marriage’ that. We are giving life to a distinction and a difference. We are cementing the concept of a different type of marriage based on gender – a ‘gay marriage.’
This concept and this language will not exist in law, but it will exist in society. Equality does not speak in divisive language. It cannot be ‘gay marriage’ because equality in marriage rights takes no account of gender. ‘Gay marriage’ does – it says so. Therefore, ‘gay marriage’ cannot and does not exist harmoniously with equality.
We’ll get our ‘gay marriage,’ and we won’t want it.
What we want is: marriage.”
“These people are to be commended. Not only for their athletic ability but for their sense of self pride too. These people are role models. These people are leaders. They are setting a fine example for young and old alike. And especially Jessica Landström, but I'm only saying that because I have a soft spot for her :)”
m1jones on Jul 30, 2012 at 10:25:50
“Remembr when competition was stopped and the pool cleared when Greg Louganis hit his head on the diving board? People were afraid that the pool had been contaminated with AIDS virus. Thank goodness those days of darkness are a thing of the past. Greg has long since come out when it was a career-risking event. He had a spectacular career and has a successful career now coaching.
We must never become lax is preserving individual rights and calling attention to opporession. Just now, there is a terrible move to reduce women's rights in the United States. We should recognize this for what it is wherever it happens around the world - an attempt to enslave and own women in order to control how they live their lives.
“Yes, she could have come out during her life and increased the self-esteem of lesbians, but she didn't and she too had the right to privacy which was clearly of paramount importance to her, in most respects of her life. You can't change anything about that now.
After her death, by coming out she has increased the self-esteem of the LGBT community worldwide. How many people achieve that? How many people achieve what she had already achieved? She was already a hero.
R.I.P. Sally Ride, I respect all the choices you made, just the same way I want all of mine respected.”
“"..it's unclear just how many, partly because marriage applicants aren't required to identify themselves by gender."
Well exactly. That's proper equality in operation. The sooner marriages between same sex couples aren't seen as anything 'special' or 'different' the better. Marriage is marriage, regardless of gender.”
Jun 12, 2012 at 09:19:31
UK Universities & Education
“"Parents have the right to raise their children in accordance with their own religious values; yet if same-sex marriage is introduced and promoted in schools, that right will be undermined,"
Firstly, parents also have a duty to raise their children in accordance with the law. Secondly, who came up with "promoting?" The term we're looking for here is educating.”
Gabriel100 on Jul 17, 2012 at 13:54:51
“Firstly, parents also have a duty to raise their children in accordance with the law.
That is correct.
But then, it is not illegal to oppose gay marriage, nor to hold that homosexuality is a disordered sexuality.
The first is a matter of conscience, the second a biological fact.
Secondly, who came up with "promoting?" The term we're looking for here is educating.
It is not "educational" to repudiate biological science by directly equating homo- and heterosexuality in this way.
Rather, that is anti-truth which will denigrate our understanding of ourselves.
The forms and functions of ALL human bodies - including those of gay people - clearly proclaim heterosexuality.
Therefore It is both false and reductive to claim that homo- and heterosexuality are equally valid or "the same".
Pupils should, of course, be taught to respect everyone and treat everyone fairly. But they should not be taught that homo- and heterosexuality are "just the same", because it just isn't true.
Gay people in the UK can already form state recognised relationships which confer the same rights and provisions as marriage does for heterosexual couples. That is entirely adequate.
The proposed change is not about rights, it is about ideology.
It is about using to the law to prevent people from expressing different opinions (even when they can substantiate their opinion via biological science.)”
Dietnow on Jun 12, 2012 at 09:31:17
“NO parents do not have the right to brainwash their children in a religion that was made up hundreds of yrs ago to scare people into living a good clean life,
We have past all that now and grown,
We dont need religion anymore it only causes hardship and anger and death,
Religion is a violent thing and children shouldn't be made to practice what they dont understand, children should be left alone and let make their own minds up if they want religion or not when adult, gayness should be kept out of the school,”
“Excellent news! I'm sure the choice is there for non-church marriage ceremonies too. But the important part is choice and options and every citizen having those same options. Well done Denmark for valuing each and every one your citizens in this regard. And 85-24? Equality won by a mile.”
Annieke on Jun 7, 2012 at 16:04:46
“Yes, couples can opt for a non-religious ceremony as well, mostly at a city or town hall.
But I understand that a very large majority of the population in Denmark still prefers a religious marriage, eventhough they don't attend church on a weekly or even monthly basis.”
“That only serves to deny children an education and ignores the reality and experience lived by many of these very children. Nonsense.”
Ioan Lightoller on Jun 1, 2012 at 16:28:55
“Of course. The bigots themselves can't deal with reality. They want the fantasy world of "Leave It to Beaver", not realising that for those who were not upper or middle class, the world wasn't like that, even then.”