“Good luck with that! So if you do not consent, then they detain you, impound your vehicle, take it in to the station, tear it all to hell, etc.,etc. Then, you are late for whatever you were doing, inconvenienced, etc. I fully agree that it is not right, but the reality is that they have the upper hand and the ability to make your life miserable. Is it really worth the aggravation if you have nothing to hide? Really?”
AnemoneRose on Feb 22, 2012 at 22:38:49
“Actually they can't legally do any of that. If you say no they can check your glove box and that's it (at least in Vermont). the only aggravation is if somehow you act suspiciously and they search your car later. So you have a chance of them not bothering you or definitely bothering you.”
EatMeSF on Feb 22, 2012 at 21:41:41
“wrong.... it can also be much quicker to say no, most of the time they will just leave and find there next victim.....”
Kirby A Morrison on Feb 22, 2012 at 21:07:41
“They can not detain you unless they have probable cause. They can only have a drug dog walk around your vehicle and even then you have a reasonable time for the dog to show up. If it doesn't show within 15 mins they have to let go on your way! Never give the police the right to search as the author said it can lead to real hardships if something is inadverntly found .”
“This is probably real and most likely at the Bay to Breakers Race in San Francisco where folks running/walking it "al fresco" is a ho-hum experience and not at all shocking--to most participants anyway. Look the race up on Google if you don't believe me. I have run it myself several times and seen more saggy aging naked people in it than any person should have to. The attitude in SF is that "it's not a big deal". My opinion is that it adds to the color and zany-ness of the race.”
“I'm mad a hell (part 2)
Where are the cries of injustice from the Civil Rights leaders like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Andrew Young, Dolores Huerta, etc.??? Why haven’t we heard any outrage or any response, for that matter from Oprah, or even more importantly Barack Obama??? Could it be that they are afraid of a backlash similar to the response that Bill Cosby and even Barack Obama himself got for simply speaking the truth? With “friends” like that who needs enemies? Many GLBT people, including myself and my partner worked our asses off to get Barack Obama elected; only to have some 70% of the African American voters insult and demean us by taking away our civil rights! How is it that the African American community, which itself has struggled for hundreds of years to gain equal rights for their own people, and most often with the overwhelming support of the vast majority of GLBT people, could so thoroughly repudiate us in this way?, It is just beyond my comprehension, it is shameful and it is the epitome of hypocrisy! I feel so taken advantage of and betrayed. The so-called "Rainbow Coalition" is officially dead and I fear that GLBT-African American relations have been irreparably damaged! Please don’t misunderstand my anger—I am not now, nor have I ever been a racist, but I am not afraid to call ‘em like I see ‘em. I am beyond angry and I demand answers!”
CatfishAndGrits on Nov 7, 2008 at 17:08:23
It took nearly 100 years, AFTER SLAVERY, for blacks to change attitude about race. Changing attitudes about the GLBT community is not going to be fast, or easy. But it will happen. Just like the attitudes about GLBT in military are slowly changing.
Now.......my rant. The notion that the GLBT community did us a "favor" by helping to elect Obama is so condescending and childish. If you wish to look at your vote in that manner then be my guess.”
qwr on Nov 7, 2008 at 17:05:29
“Often, racism gets expressed in the structure of thought, not in outright hatred. The logical path, I supported Obama--how dare AAs vote against us, is a kind of racist thinking.”
“I’m mad as hell and ready to take to the streets “Act Up” style!
I have already been demonstrating at the California Capitol this week. We in the GLBT community must show the world our outrage over the passage of Proposition 8, which enshrines discrimination in the California Constitution. We should boycott any corporations which directly or indirectly supported Prop 8. But most importantly, GLBT advocacy groups such as The Human Rights Campaign, Equality California, and The National Center for Lesbian Rights must get tough and ask the hard questions of those who we THOUGHT were our allies, but have in reality abandoned us in our time of need. I have been a HUGE supporter of Barack Obama from the very first time I heard him speak at the 2004 Democratic Convention and am thrilled that he won the election, but my enthusiasm has been greatly tempered by the passing of Proposition 8 in the very same election. The African American community and to a lesser extent the Latino community voted in favor of discrimination against the GLBT community in such overwhelming numbers, that I feel that it is imperative that our community, and especially our advocacy groups must take their leaders to task for their failure to educate and enlighten their communities.”
gotborked on Nov 7, 2008 at 17:11:55
“So you're saying these racial minorities are uneducated and unenlightened...
Perhaps they have heard your argument and rejected it, as the majority of Americans of other races and in other states have?”