Ha! Just thought of one tragic story of a Black girl born in South Africa to White parents in the era of apartheid. Apparently one or both of her parents must have been the descendants of one who "passed" for White. Sadly & ironically, these "White" parents were in support of the apartheid system.
In the bad old days Prince & Paris would be able to "pass" just like Carol Channing's mother did. But much like the case with Sandra Laing, Channing's mother told Carol not to be surprised if she had a Black baby.
Nothing new under the sun, Nathaniel.
“As "little mixture" as MJ? How can you say that when you see Michael Jackson's light-skinned blue/green eyed father, Joe?
You don't know what you're talking about. Even dark-skinned Katherine has White ancestors & Native American ancestors (Cherokee) HERSELF. Her grandfather was listed as "Mulatto" in the U.S. Census for goodness sake!
Mix this background with Joe's OBVIOUSLY mixed background of White & Native American (Choctaw) ancestries & you get a bunch of Afro-Euro-Amerindian Jackson siblings.
Why do you think La Toya came out so light naturally? What about Joe's daughter outside of marriage, Joh'Vonnie? She looks like Joe's clone including his light skin & blue/green eyes.
I implore you once again to look especially at that second link I posted "The Study of Racialism • A Black Mother of a White Child; Thoughts on Mother's Day". The picture of the caramel-colored mother & her White looking son is front & center as soon as you click the link.
One day when Michael's kids grow up they themselves will dispel this ignorance about being "adopted". They will correct the misinformed world & tell them that they are mixed or biracial. Seriously, Nathaniel. Open your mind. I don't think you understand what "Black" in America really means.
“MJ 4Eva, thank you for your compliments.
You gotta dispel ignorance no matter how uphill it may seem.
I can't sit here & let this foolishness be spoken unchallenged.
This thread will show up in somebody's offhand search one day & I want them able to see this perspective so that they can gain knowledge.
People both Black & White have identified & bought into a mythology of "race". Of how ethnic features express themselves through genetics.
When people like Prince, Paris, & Blanket exist, it ruins & destroys all built-up conceptions of how the "race" system works. All the lines get blurred & nobody feels so sure about where THEY stand.
That's why you get this kind of resistance.
It forces us to deconstruct the superiority/inferiority systems we put up in the fantasy that we're distinct & separate.
It's hard to admit that REALLY we're all FAMILY.
A great man once said "If you're thinkin' about being my baby it don't matter if you're Black or White"
“You're incorrect, Nathaniel Calloway. Michael is by no means NEAR 100% African. He had a dark caramel brown complexion before vitiligo. He & Jermaine were the darkest of the siblings but they were not near as dark as say Wesley Snipes or pro wrestler Mark Henry.
Katherine Jackson, the matriarch, is dark-skinned but even she has much mixture in her background. The percentages of your ethnic heritage don't always line up with how the traits express themselves. A person can be 50% Black & 50% White & end up looking more Black than White meaning not even having that peanut butter complexion but with African facial features. It can easily go the other way & the person ends up with a vanilla creme skin tone & European facial features.
But father Joe Jackson alone with his light skin & blue/green eyes makes telltale the Jacksons' mixed heritage. See his daughter Joh'Vonnie Jackson who has those same blue/green eyes & light skin.
“Nathaniel Calloway, it's time you understand the mythology of "race".
Those links I put up from the website "The Study of Racialism" will tell you all you need to know. I'll post them for you here again so you don't have to scroll up. It's not just words, there is picture proof of this kind of thing in action.
The Study of Racialism • Black parents with White kids
The Study of Racialism • A Black Mother of a White Child; Thoughts on Mother's Day
The second link here REALLY hammers it home because the mother is caramel brown in color. Not light enough to "pass".
Prince, Paris, & Blanket ARE Michael's biological children & you're going to have to accept that. "Race" is a phony concept.
For more information, see actress Troian Bellisario, the daughter of famous TV producer Donald Bellisario. Her mother is Black.
Nathaniel Calloway on Dec 10, 2011 at 17:42:12
“If you are talking abut Deborah Pratt, she is very mixed and very light herself. That situation is very possible. Those kids could not have possibly come from somebody with as litte mixture as MJ.”
“Michael Jackson was a Black American & therefore Michael Jackson was in truth Mixed. By mixing further with a (true) Blonde, Blue-eyed White woman, Prince & Paris come out looking the way they do. Same with Blanket whoever his mother is.
Thank you for your compliments on my conclusion. I know most will ignore it but somebody has to put the truth out there for posterity's sake. Most people just don't know this reality because they have never experienced it. I hope my posts clear things up so that next time they would hesitate before making a bunch of uneducated knee-jerk opinions.
Nathaniel Calloway on Dec 9, 2011 at 10:57:57
“MJ had very little mixture for an African American. Stop wishing for something that isn't there. The daughter has absolutely no ethnic features what so ever. The Jackson all have pre-op noses the size of the Titanic. The kids don't have any curl in their hair what-so-ever. Impossible! The recessive gene that gives Paris those green eyes needs to come from both sides, not just the mother's side. And although that recessive gene MAY exist in MJ's side from way back it is still highly unlikely.”
“Thank you, rickmalibu1. I know it's hard to believe & the reason for that is simply inexperience with the subject at hand. Most people just haven't seen it with their own eyes. They believe in the Myth of "Races". That White is SOOO FAR away from Black & never the twain shall meet.
But it happens & it's more common than people think. It's not just White folks who have a hard time understanding this. Even Black folks to my surprise can't seem to wrap their heads around it when they of all people should know better.
There is No Black American descended from the African slaves that is 100% Black (which is code for African). NONE. I don't care if they're dark-skinned. I don't care if they're Wesley Snipes dark or Mark Henry dark. Oprah Winfrey did a DNA heritage check & found Chinese ancestry in her background.
All anybody has to do is to look at Michael's own brothers & sisters. How did La Toya get so light when Jermaine the child that came before her is so dark? Brother & sister & right there it shows the diversity of genetic lines & ancestries. All Black people in the U.S. descended from slaves are REALLY In Fact MIXED. That's why Vanessa Williams looks the way she does. Whether it's one generation back or seven, whether on mother's side, father's side or both, Black Americans are really Mixed.
MJ 4Eva on Dec 10, 2011 at 09:18:45
“For the record as you state, Latoya was BORN FAR LIGHTER than siblings. NO bleaching. Those that know Jacksons from late sixties, early seventies, KNOW this is true. Jackson grands also vary in complexion, hair texture. Some look "clearly" African-American, some do not. Thank you for your comments. Ignorance will thrive sadly, no matter what sensible people do.”
ALL of those kids are HIS. Oldest, middle, AND youngest.
Many people have the mistaken belief that the "Races" are so far apart.
It's an illusion & when "race-mixing" takes place, pretty soon it undoes the Myth of "Race".
We're really not that far apart.
This has happened before, is happening now, and will happen again in the future.
There's a reason why the Arabs look the way they do. There's a reason why Rachael Ray has a tan. The White "race" came from the Black "race" as did all other "races".
These links will help you understand the truth.
Also type in "albinos in africa" in Google & see the pictures that come up in the search result.
That mutation, that change is a clue to how the White "race" came to be.
Type in "blue-eyed african" in Google to be amazed even further. They are not mixed but they still have blue eyes.
UncleJimbo on Jan 7, 2012 at 06:53:08
“I'll be your # 1 Fan! .....Thanks for those links!”
So seriously folks. Enough of the ignorance.
All 3 children are biologically Michael's.
Prince, the oldest, resembles his great-grandfather Samuel (Joe's father).
Paris, the girl, looks just like her Mother Debbie Rowe except with olive-toned skin.
There's only 2 types of olives: Green & Black. And the green ones equate to a good brown. I don't have to spell it out where those olive tones come from, do I?
Blanket has a different yet unknown-to-the-public mother but he looks like a pure clone of Michael except with naturally straight hair & slightly lighter skin.
I presume the mother has a mixed background...which may include Black.
This is not the first time or the last time you will see this kind of thing happening. The "races" are "mixing" & in the end the truth will be revealed about "race". There is only the HUMAN race.
Michael told you it don't matter if you're Black or White.
“So here we are with both of Michael's parents being African/European/Amerindian mixes...
...And here we have Michael, the offspring of these mixtures, having 2 children with a BLONDE-HAIRED (true blonde), BLUE-EYED White Woman named Debbie Rowe...
...And we're SURPRISED that Prince and Paris look the way they do???
We're surprised even though Mariah Carey exists from similar mixtures?
Even though actress Rashida Jones, the offspring of Quincy Jones & white Peggy Lipton, exists looking more White than Black?
Even though brown-skinned disco queen Donna Summer had a blonde-haired, pale-skinned girl by a White man?
Even though caramel-skinned actress Victoria Rowell's daughter (Maya Fahey) looks like a pure White girl with straight blonde hair & blue eyes while her son (Jasper Marsalis) looks like your everyday Black boy with nappy hair & brown skin?
People are STILL surprised that this can happen in the year 2011???
What do you think "passing" was all about? Some Blacks looked so White that they could pass for White in the dark days of racial segregation.
Do people really understand genetics? Do people recognize that Africa is the birthplace of ALL humankind?? Do people recognize that ALL people CAME FROM the Black People??? The African People???
Just why are people from the Mediterranean & the Middle East so swarthy anyway? It couldn't be that proximity to Africa, could it? Look up the word history & meaning of "swarthy" ("swart") in Dictionary.com, you'll be surprised.
“I'm tired of these ignorant comments talking about these kids not being Michael's biologically.
The following will prove that these ARE Michael's biological children.
Michael Jackson is not 100% African (Black) to begin with.
That little Black grandma you see sitting with the kids (Michael's mother Katherine), her grandfather was listed as "Mulatto" in the U.S. Census. You know what a "mulatto" is don'cha? Your President is one. Yeah that Obama guy with the White parent & Black parent.
So that means Katherine is part European (White)...like pretty much every descendant of African slaves throughout the American continents.
She's also said to be part Native American (Cherokee in this case) & even Asian (that would explain the almond eyes).
As for Michael's father, the infamous light-skinned blue-eyed/green-eyed Joe Jackson...
In a 2004 book he dictated in German called 'Die Jacksons' (The Jacksons), he mentions the origins of that Jackson name.
Joe's great-grandfather was a Choctaw shaman named July Gale. July's nickname was "Jack".
"Jack" had a child with a Black slave woman and they named the boy Israel.
When they referred to Israel they said "Jack's Son". And from then on all the offspring of Israel were called Jackson.
I've seen a picture of Joe's mother (who married a Jackson named Samuel) & she was light-skinned. It's a pretty safe bet that she had White blood alongside the Black. That's probably were Joe's blue/green eyes came from.
rickmalibu1 on Dec 7, 2011 at 22:35:30
“You spent all that time clearly and concisely writing an opinion that almost nobody in the world will believe.”