Jun 3, 2014 at 22:31:24
“At the heart of the matter is scientific hubris. Occidental epistemology perpetuates a system of understanding which is purpose driven. Planning and purpose controls attention and narrows perception, thus limiting what comes into consciousness and therefore limiting the amount of wisdom that can be generated from the perception. Also Occidental epistemology propagates the false notion that man exists outside Mind and this leads man to believe in the philosophy of control based upon false knowledge.
Planning or purpose ignores the supreme system and leads to the breakdown of the entire system. It does not operate in a linear fashion and if we create our own rules for the system, we open ourselves up to become a slave to it.
That, along with our hubris gives us the potential to damage and destroy the supreme cybernetic system. Instead of just temporarily disrupting the system until it can self-correct, wisdom in my view would mean being able to consider the "meta-system."”
“I'm seriously considering the same. It's just plain silly to change the system as it is.
But of course the merger helps those at the top maintain their sense of magnanimity by being so much more well off than us chickens!”
“Start acting like the authentic Jesus of Nazareth and you will be sent straight to confinement, even perhaps all the way to capital punishment. Heck, you wouldn't even have to "pass GO." Problem solved immediately and efficiently.”
“Loss of freedom is its own punishment. If more soldiers ran from battle to save their PTSD's relentless destruction of spirit, maybe next time no one will show up. Another "touchy-feely" observation from someone who does not know what "true patriotism" really means. Not.”
“The "outrage" surrounding this news comes from too many citizens becoming unmoored from history and tradition. This is SO ridiculous. But mostly sad.
Ignorance and immaturity seem to be gaining on a global cultural sensibility.”
Jun 2, 2014 at 10:45:10
“Another example besides the "eggs in the basket" metaphor you offer would be something to the effect that by focusing on what's important and using the steadiness appropriate for true craft and efficiency, problems CAN be solved without "multi-tasking." I obviously did not make that clear at all. What value are wisdom and tradition if they are not clearly communicated?”
Kristnoplis on Jun 2, 2014 at 10:57:54
“Wisdom isn't based on how well you don't multitask. I agree that having a skill means something, but not planning for sake of wisdom is misguided.”
“Now that I think about it, you are probably right about these guys
not returning to the battlefield. I need criticism from others, and your reply here drives home the idea that I was in such a focus to answer another post that my brain was elsewhere. Thanks for keeping me humble. Your comment "Read history"
came across as a bit of a dig to me since I do actually read history--as it was and as it is made. You might have said something like "this goes on all through the history of warfare,"for example. Again, being overly sensitive can easily be an example of one of my own shortcomings. In any case, Maureen, thank you for replying and helping me learn.”
missmo1951 on Jun 2, 2014 at 10:27:26
“I didn't mean it snarkily. You are like all of us, learners in this giant classroom. I really resent all of the criticism around this. If one looks at history like we do, and knows of countries like Israel who has this sort of incident happen frequently in their recent past, we know that a prisoner swap is quite common practice.
I remember reading about people being in an uproar back when they released some of the Native American Chiefs from incarceration. People were sure that they would round up the warriors for retaliation attacks. What came back from their incarceration were mostly broken old men.
The Taliban are not stupid, and Afghanistan is an area where they seem to always repel invaders. I can't see them using these individuals because of skepticism about their loyalties, the fact that they have new blood in their hierarchy and their knowledge that we do have some superior technology and may be able to track these returning individuals.”
“The silence about gay historical figures that are already on stamps persists because acknowledging and teaching this subject raises anxieties about promoting homosexuality. Most Christian believers are both ignorant and immature when it comes to human sexuality. Perhaps they feel the instinctive urge to couple leaves one feeling out of control and more open to different ideas.”
“Negotiation involves give and take and I don't understand that there was "NO" negotiation. How could this be?
And terms like "all," "everywhere" or your own use of "everything" they wanted.
Such words are imperfect generalizations that delete and distort ideas about reality.
In Bush's presidency, we paid money to the terrorists and the administration knew exactly what it was doing. Also we paid off warlords to influence their actions against us on the battlefield.
My framework of nonviolence (I see myself as a violent person trying to become otherwise) has let me know with personal experience that once I can connect what is alive in both myself and my opponent or disputant I am "home free." Violence, I think now, is the outward sign of someone who has never learned to deal with their own suffering by maturity and judiciousness. They are like tantrum-prone toddlers who were never taught how to recognize their own strong feelings, give them an accurate name and then express them like adults. Families that do not have a dynamic of caring, respect and fairness towards others seem to provide the brackish water that trickles down though their own actions. And the kids suffer.
Parent who give their kids anything and everything they want are not helping the relationship between them.”
“Some commenters here expressed outrage that the insurgent prisoners would be returning to the battlefield. Of course, America would never do such a thing with our captives that are released.
missmo1951 on Jun 2, 2014 at 03:19:20
“There is talk that these freed individuals might not go back to Afghanistan at all, or be welcomed into the Taliban. There will remain suspicion as to whether they flipped while in Guantanamo. This scenario has happened throughout history. War creates prisoners, releases, and the possibility of retaliation. Read history.”
Jun 1, 2014 at 18:39:51
“Multi-tasking, I have found, is much like the Islamic Sufi "teaching clown" Rumi who admonished his followers to dig a deep well for water instead of digging a dozen scattered about. This is the metaphor I use for what multi-tasking is like for me: a scattering and superficiality of focus that prevents me from pragmatic problem-solving.”
Kristnoplis on Jun 2, 2014 at 10:26:28
“So...you throw all your eggs in one basket. Good to know.”