“Because the automatic weapon ban was lifted under Pres. Bush his mom was able to legally own those guns and he was able to kill a lot more people instantly, you're right.
My argument is more about how mental instability not guns caused him to want to kill children. Obtaining automatic weapons enabled him to kill a lot more of them. But i agree, this is also a gun control issue...it's both!”
Mplus2H on Dec 21, 2012 at 14:20:08
“People really need to learn the difference between automatic and semiautomatic guns so that they can speak clearly. No, automatic guns are not legal and are not found in this country outside of military bases. Lanza did not use an automatic gun, he used a legal semiautomatic gun.”
Boadicea on Dec 21, 2012 at 14:13:26
“Seeing a "good" psychologist would not have prevented this. We always want to find something/someone to blame. Some tragedies are just not preventable. The access to semi-automatic weapons made this tragedy many times worse.”
“No civilian needs automatic or semi-automatic weapons and banning those weapons doesn’t take away the right to bear arms since there are a gazillion other guns you can still use.
That said, this isn't a gun control issue; this is a mental health issue. Access to guns didn't cause this tragedy, mental instability did. Abusing his access to guns was an effect of his mental instability, not the cause of this tragedy. If he had been seeing a good psychologist since childhood this would not have happened. Let’s use logic and look at the root problem here people.”
bertysing on Dec 21, 2012 at 14:43:49
“It is both. The mental health care system is very broken. However, if we ban these weapons, they will still be available on the black market. But, for mentally unstable children, probably a lot harder to get a hold of. I don't know why the NRA is so opposed to banning assault weapons.”
Hurricanehugo on Dec 21, 2012 at 14:20:50
“I was anti-gun ownership for most of my life. But after seeing our civil liberties eroded over the last 12 years I am convinced the only thing that stopped our government from declaring martial law and acting like a true tyranny is the fear of our armed populace. It might sound highly rheotical and most people probably don't understand what I mean but I am not convinced just banning semi-auto and automatic weapons will automatically make our society safer. Nancy Lanza was a legally registered owner of the weapons used in the killing. Nothing could have really prevented Adam Lanza from lashing out; if he didn't use his mother's guns he would have found another way to exact his revenge. I fear we are overreacting and just acting out of emotional feeling because we feel bad these children were killed.
Ironically we didn't have any concerns about innocent Arab women and children being caught in the crossfire of our soldiers guns fighting an unjustified war. We don't have a lick of concern about the thousands of innocents that are killed In Mexico with guns purchased in our country with money fueled by our drug trade. We don't have any concerns about the thousands of innocent minority children and adults who live in high crime areas who have been killed or injured over gun violence.”
indywoman on Dec 21, 2012 at 13:49:53
“I really don't agree. His ability to so easily obtain the automatic weapons is what made it possible to kill so many so fast. One hand gun simply couldn't have done the damage in nearly the same amount of time. Those children and those adults would have had a much better chance of getting away.
I am not arguing that mental health didn't play the largest role, because it did, but the easy access to the automatic weapon escalated the situation ten fold.”
“So true. Teachers are just as crazy and short tempered as the rest of us humans, if not more so. Imagine how many rude kids would be shot by teachers if they were armed! I think we should all just get a good shrink.”
“It's not "lockdown" when they go home at the end of the day. 55 million kids kept safe for eight hours out of the day sounds like a great idea.”
oldwoman64 on Dec 21, 2012 at 12:00:14
“If they have parents who believe that you have to have armed guards and bullet-proof glass, and microchipped id cards in school, out of fear of an extremely unlikely event, chances are their home is a lockdown too. ”
“Actually only about 75% of students graduate high school and those who don't graduate usually don't have a good support system at home or at school. Adolescents are not small adults, they don't have good judgement and they can't be expected to magically be "intrinsically motivated" when no one else cares what they do. Ideally that would be the case, and ideally they would all have parents who ask how school was every day and teachers who ask why they didn't come to class to build that self worth and motivation from within but that's just not reality for many of us.
I'm not saying the lack of security guards is responsible for the drop out rates, I'm saying it would help students make better decisions, which they do need help with. Try looking at it with compassion rather than idealistically.”
psychomel38 on Dec 21, 2012 at 14:07:41
“That's why you have good teachers and school counselors - teachers and counselors model the behavior and skills needed to make good decisions. If you stayed in school, you may have learned that. We will have to agree to disagree - especially on the compassion part - no one benefits from compassion, but everyone can use empathy.”
“I don't care what the statistical chance of my children getting shot at school are; 41 kids shot and killed in school are 41 too many.”
ipleathe5thh on Dec 21, 2012 at 00:07:16
“In 2012 there has been 7 school shooting deaths but out of those 7, 4 of those were sucides commited by students. & All the shootings in the years from 2000-2010 none of them were mass and none of them were random shooting. Every shooting that happened was done by a student or adult who was targeting a specfic person and nobody else. The only random mass shootings in the 2000's were all done on Univ Campus. If you go and look at the stats on school shootings 99% of them are no random they all have a target. So the likelyhood of a random mass shooting in schools are very slim. & Where did you get the number 41 from? in 2007 piror to Sandy Hook only 3 students have been killed and in the 2000's 61 students were killed one of which was a sucide and 37 of those death were Univ Shootings. Other than the Univ Shooting the other Highest Death Toll in a single school shooting was the Bart Township, Pa Amish School Shooting where 5 students were killed other than that it had only been one or two death per shootings and not ALL were done by students”
oldwoman64 on Dec 20, 2012 at 21:14:09
“Yes, you are right about that, but 55 million is 55 million too many to be on lockdown with armed guards parading around, too.”
“Woah...calm down, I do take responsibility for my actions and I have a college education now. I'm just saying drop out rates are way too high and it is super easy to just decide you don't want to be at school today and leave and go to the mall or something but if there were security guards there or a single manned entrance/exit then that would be a huge deterrent. It's too easy to come and go.”
psychomel38 on Dec 21, 2012 at 09:17:13
“I am calm - you're the one who attributed emotion to a post. And again, you are placing responsibility on other people when you say it would be a huge deterrent as it is easy to come and go. Again, if you don't have the ability to self-regulate that's your fault. Your behavior and actions should be intrinsically motivated, not extrinsically. 98% of people successfully complete high school without a "guard" being there. I don't break the law because cops are out there to enforce the law. I don't break the law because I know it's wrong.”
“I think every parent should do this everyday until there are security guards at every entrance in all schools. That's what it will take to keep them safe...we can't wait for school officials and politicians to do something. I probably wouldn't have dropped out of high school if there was a guard there to ask me where I was going!”
psychomel38 on Dec 20, 2012 at 20:13:22
“Take responsibility for your own choices - you didn't want to go to school, so you dropped out. It's not a "guards" responsibility to make you stay in school. That's you and your parents job. If you can't self-regulate, that on you. As you stated, "probably"; and even if there was a guard, you "probably" would have dropped out anyway.”
oldwoman64 on Dec 20, 2012 at 20:04:34
“The Sandy Hook shooting was teriible--no douby. But before we turn schools into prisons, or police facilities, perhaps a little perspective is in order. In 2012, there were fewer than 70 people killed in mass shootings, no matter where they occurred, WORLDWIDE. In 2011, which was a record low year, there were 88 people killed just in the US, in ONE DAY, in traffic fatalities.
In 2012, there were about 55 million kids enrolled in public and private schools in the US. Forty-one (other than perpetrators) were killed in school shootings. So a child's statistical chance of being killed in a school shooting is less than one in a million. We don't need lockdowns at schools, or even armed guards. We need to quit living in fear and just live.”
“At first I was like, "How is this guy in office?!" and then I did some research and realized he doesn't actually hold any title at all, he's just another clueless privileged white guy raised in a bubble who likes the sound of his own voice...an yet another embarrassment to the republican party.”
“Not that I want to help Republicans strategically, but if they actually believed that their policies were good for America, were less of a strict father type and more of a wise loving father type, saw all people as intelligent beings, really thought all life was sacred, invested in long term solutions, and spent more time doing their job than preventing others from doing theirs, then perhaps they would have had a better chance. Next time I guess.”
sesbandit on Nov 8, 2012 at 13:43:06
“I would advise them to become more severely conservative!”
“I love how everyone is all of the sudden candid AFTER the election is over. Don't you think it would be best to be real all of the time? I know a lot of people are dumb but the rest of us rejected the phoney and went with the homey :)”
“"I don't think it was because he was heartless, he just didn't know. That's how he ran his state," Bosley said. "His understanding of why you have government, I don't think he ever had it."
Why on earth would we ever elect a president who doesn't see the value in government? More importantly, why is he running for the top position of an institution he doesn't believe in? To dismantle it?”
yellow marshmallow on Oct 30, 2012 at 15:58:29
“Ignorance should never be an excuse. 'He just didn't know'. He still doesn't.”
“That's the worst idea ever. If disaster relief was privatized, they would only help those who can pay for it. Corporations cannot be trusted with human lives because there is a fundamental conflict of interest. This is why we have government in the first place....to protect the people! ALL of them!”
“If this is Gods response to gays, wouldn't it be a lot more efficient to land an asteroid right in the middle of all gay pride parades? Or strike only gays with lightening? Why do children need to be sacrificed as well? Don't you church crazies ever think this stuff through?”
“I wonder how long her labor was? Did anyone hear her scream? Is she so troubled that she is completely numb to physical AND emotional anguish? Just some new thoughts to consider here guys.”
conwa on Oct 3, 2012 at 02:00:09
“She had a pretty big baby too. 9+ lbs. I had a 9 lb 10 oz baby at 21, and she was to big to deliver. I had to have a c-section. I am pretty sure this girl is smaller than I was. She could have died herself delivering. But if she were determined not to be found out, she probably just took the pain quietly as possible. This is a really sad story.”