“If you think that the bad guys can be determined by an R or D next to their name, then you deserve exactly what you're getting from our elected officials.”
Jeff Tenenbaum on Dec 9, 2013 at 05:35:11
“I don't. There was a point where I thought it could be determined by what they say, and then I realized the lies are so interwoven with the truth that both are obfuscated. That leaves researching what they've said compared to what they've done and knowing who *not* to vote for, but then with new candidates you've got a sort of wildcard that poses obvious problems (and benefits). But to posit that what we're getting is deserved in any way is ludicrous. We didn't earn this. People that vote(d) by party line put implicit trust in people and a platform they believed in. That their trust was violated and trivialized is not their fault. That blame lies sorely on the people who earned and then abused said faith.”
DoubleDD on Dec 9, 2013 at 01:21:39
“Have you been preaching this from the beginning? Because a lot of Dems thought the great Obama could do no wrong. Oh wait they still do. By the way I agree with what your saying.”
“You really don't understand the situation the poor are in. Some of them don't know how to even navigate the educational system and if they did, they still couldn't necessarily afford an education - they're trying to afford groceries.
Your argument isn't completely invalid, but just as they might be complainers, it is no less offensive than your cynicism and self-righteousness.”
lhelix1965 on Dec 7, 2013 at 17:41:21
“So you are saying they are so ignorant they can't figure out how to go to school. I'll bet they would not agree with your assessment of them. The huge majority of them could better themselves if they wanted to-many of them do-and there are plenty of programs to help them financially to go to school.My opinion does not make me self-righteous but your statement just shows your ignorance.”
“I just completely disagree. Between lack of insurance, manufacturing having moved overseas, decades of flat wages, death of Detroit, the largest divide between wealthiest and poorest, and a long-term recession, it's simply not a matter of making a decision.
The increase in poverty isn't simply a matter of choice that Americans have made.
Your point isn't hard to understand. It's such an oversimplification that it is very easy to understand. What is hard to believe is that anyone would attempt to make it”
lhelix1965 on Dec 6, 2013 at 20:56:52
“What is hard to understand is that somehow you are not aware of the thousands of high tech and biotech jobs-among others-that are open and go unfilled because there are not enough qualified workers to fill them. These workers can either get an education and help fill them or complain how life isn't fair. I am trying to use little words so you can follow along.”
“No, a person isn't entitled to a raise because of one's situation at home. On the other hand, millions of people aren't struggling simply because they're lazy and don't want to better themselves.
You have what appears to be a powerful need to believe that people are struggling only because they are lazy. It seems to be a common response every time the economy takes a dump.”
lhelix1965 on Dec 6, 2013 at 19:34:53
“The only person who used the term"lazy" is you, which makes the inference yours and not mine.If you believe these individuals are lazy so be it. I simply believe they can change their situation if they want to and if they don't that is their decision. hard to believe that is so hard to understand.”
“Perhaps you could go back to my post where I stated "Of course no one "FORCES" employees..." I'm glad you're not taking my fast food orders.”
lhelix1965 on Dec 6, 2013 at 18:34:26
“I think it would help if YOU understood what you are saying. I know exactly what you are trying to say and am saying you are 100% wrong. If those individuals feel they are"forced to work in those situations" then they need to better themselves and get out. You don't get raises because of your situation at home.”
“Of course no one "FORCES" employees to work in a situation they don't like, but people certainly are "forced" to work in situations they don't like. It's probably not a distinction you understand, but nonetheless, there it is.”
lhelix1965 on Dec 6, 2013 at 16:46:56
“I know this is way over your head but there is not one fast food worker being forced to work in a fast food restaurant. Not one. Have an adult help you.”
“Nonsense. To suggest that it is okay for unfair wages because there are other employers (who might also offer unfair wages) is rubbish - especially considering that large corporations lobby against a truly fair labor market.
In an open, fair marketplace your argument might hold water. In our corporatocracy your point holds no water.”
plowboy611 on Dec 6, 2013 at 16:54:13
“Then I guess you will fit right in with Obama's vision of America. You might want to learn how to click our heels when you salute and say Heil! The market place is what sets wages. What do you think will happen if they give burger flippers $15 an hour. What do you think the people that make $15 an hour now will do? They will want $25. Then the people that earn $25 will want more. It's about time Obama and people like you quit trying to get a free lunch.”
“Well, you make a very good point. However, it's not as though the current market system of insurance is a "win" either. The U.S. hasn't had a genuine "win" for some time, whether we're talking militarily, in education, health care, or personal freedoms.”
“Really? All the GOP wanted was to keep the affordable plans, doctors, and hospitals? I thought is was also to avoid socialism and to stop death panels, too.”
soprano39 on Dec 4, 2013 at 13:32:47
“Well avoiding socialism and death panels would be a good idea as well. As well as not throwing granny under the bus and promoting dirty air and water. Oh wait, that's what Dems said we wanted. Never mind.”