“I was on Guam in 70 when the B -52's returned from their runs over North Vietnam. As a PJ I always prayed that every plane at least had its wheels kiss the Tarmac. People just do not realize the power that a B -52 gives off. You can be NEAR one and feel the power generated from those 8 engines. I have only seen ONE SR -71 and thats when one landed at Plattsburgh AFB back in 76. That beauty looked fast, just sitting still.”
“I am NOT looking for a fight, I am trying to educate you but you refuse to even consider what I have said.
Talk to a Vet who was a Pilot. You can not get them to shut up about their plane. Talk to a Vet who was on a Navy Ship, you can not get them to shut up about their ship. Talk to a Vet who was on a Chopper, and you can not get them to shut up, forget about just talking about the chopper.
This idea has been true since man first went to war. They fall in love with and have an unexplainable relationship with what ever vehicle takes them into war, and especially if it brings them home.
I am sorry if you are unable to understand that. You need to KNOW what it is like to understand what I have been trying to tell you.”
citizen1787 on May 30, 2011 at 12:56:17
“Americans honor their veterans. They are human.
F-16s don't. They can't, they are machines.”
citizen1787 on May 30, 2011 at 12:53:58
“You say i don't know that well known fact, but i do.
My point is not that a human can be attached to an inanimate object, my point is that an object can't return the affection.”
Become a fan
9 hours ago (2:11 AM)
"Classic Planes Honor Veterans"
How do inanimate objects honor veterans?
Wouldn't " Veteran pilots honored at Memorial Day air show" make more sense?
The fact is people like this poster will never understand the relationship someone who DID serve has for their Planes, or in my case my Chopper. Those who NEVER wore a uniform will never understand that the Planes might have taken people to war, but they are also the thing that brought them back home. Unless you have been there, you will NEVER understand the close relationship that a Vet has for his Planes, or Chopper, or Ships.
And unless you have BEEN THERE, it is better to just keep quiet about things you have no idea what you are talking about. My chopper did not finish bringing me home thanks to enemy fire. But I am lucky enough to have a piece of the skin with the number on it hanging on my wall. That lady returned me home constantly, and for that I will always honor HER.”
citizen1787 on May 30, 2011 at 11:49:40
“You are still going on about this?
I said "How do inanimate objects honor veterans?
Wouldn't " Veteran pilots honored at Memorial Day air show" make more sense? "
My point is that an inanimate object can't honor a person. You are trying to say that I do not honor Veterans. That is a lie.
"And unless you have BEEN THERE, it is better to just keep quiet about things you have no idea what you are talking about." Umm, freedom of speech sound familiar? I honor all who have served, but I do not back down from bullies who have no way of proving they have served in an online forum.
Did you know that using caps is yelling and yelling is rude and childish?”
“You need to go away, PERIOD. Your attacks on Liberals is not justified or wanted. The fact is it is NOT the Liberals who are posting the most lies, the most attacks and the most hatred on this or any other site.”
orbit7777 on May 31, 2011 at 13:56:59
“I think you characters are either very good at lying to yourselves or you simply are blind as bats when you read posts that are totally immoral and filthy written by your brethren.”
“I am tired of immature little children who seem to think they somehow have the right to start calling me names. The ONLY fool on this issue is the one who does not understand ANYTHING yet will sit back and act like a 4 year old with childish insults.
And since I am sure you NEVER wore a Uniform beyond the Girl Scouts you would never understand. And that is your problem you don't want to understand because you are unable to understand.”
“Oh so lets blame Obama? How about the idea that OBAMA did not invade Iraq. How about the idea that Obama did not put Afghanistan on hold, to invade Iraq. If Bush had continued the fight in Afghanistan we would have gotten Bin Laden and been out of Afghanistan YEARS AGO. So go back and try to put the blame on the person who is really responsible.”
“I totally agree and HP is doing little to prevent problems. I have been openly called a "liar" in 6 different replies from the same person and every one of them had been moderated and allowed to go though. So where is the moderation? I ran into this problem at Syracuse.com and gave up on the site. It was so very obvious that many of the moderators there had a specific Conservative idea at certain times of the day and on certain days.
I think it might have been the excess rain that chased the Tr0lls out from under their bridges.”
Cookieman62 on May 30, 2011 at 11:20:59
“Poor baby. You were the one who started the person attacks, but you just can't take it when the favor is returned.
If you want to be treated with respect, you don't tell people who PROVE they are telling the truth that they are lying.
Further, you should do your research before you spam this blog with your proven lies. And when you are confronted with the truth, you should MAN UP and admit that you were wrong or outright lying.”
GoodbyeBlueMonday59 on May 30, 2011 at 10:38:49
“My reply to you pita was only to say that this
site was once a place for open discussion , and it
worked very well . There were many well spoken
people who used to visit here, but they have long
since given up because of the Tr olls and the way
the moderating has been handled. And that is the
way they expressed the reason for leaving.
Enjoy the day and remember those
who have sactificed for us.
“no its not, its a stupid question that deserves the answer it got. You don't know SQUAT about the feelings for a Vet an their aircraft. Mine was not a plane, but a chopper. It takes you to work, and more important, brings you home. Unless you have been there, you could never understand.”
citizen1787 on May 30, 2011 at 10:36:30
“If you want a fight, find something worth fighting over fool.”
citizen1787 on May 30, 2011 at 10:35:30
“what the hell are you talking about?
I never once said anything about the Veterans being honored. Veterans should be honored. My point was that the title of the article was incorrectly stated. Planes cannot honor people. That is like saying a plant loved.”
“No I am not kidding, if you don't like the delays, than go someplace else. The solution is very easy. What is causing the delays is the people who come on here and are paid to cause problems. THAT causes the moderators to step in. Again, if you don't like the delays, go someplace else.
I do not like the delay, but I deal with them. I just wish people with different opinions would express OPINIONS and not GOP tag lines. I would love nothing more than to discuss things with people who have a different mindset, but most of these other people do not come to this site to discuss anything, but to disrupt as much as they can, HENCE the moderators.”
“Do you want to start paying for access to HP? This is a Holiday, what do you expect? Now we can have enough people moderating to insure that all of the posts get approved very quickly, if you want to start PAYING for access to this site.
Otherwise understand the simple idea that many people come on this site to attack who they do not like, They post insults against people and those need to be moderated. If we as posters were more self moderating there would be less need for moderators. But since some of us like to act like a 3 year old and throw out childish insults, than we need the moderators.
When we act like adults, we will be treated like adults with less moderation. Until that time, expect delays.”
LorettaSingbiel on May 30, 2011 at 10:15:57
HP has been cutting off comments mid-sentence. Unless it is a technical problem ... it's childish!
And I'm SURE HP could afford to "job create" and also pay moderators DOUBLE/TRIPPLE TIME to work on holidays! It's childish to not allow access to discussions in REAL time!”
Lost Rights on May 30, 2011 at 10:01:26
“Hey thanks for explaining that, and for those who are there. Fanned.”
GoodbyeBlueMonday59 on May 30, 2011 at 09:59:39
“You have no idea what this place was like, and what
it has become. One used to be able to hold a decent
discussion in real time. Then there came the Tr olls
who are payed to be abrasive.”
sb250guy on May 30, 2011 at 09:53:08
“Pay for HP? Good one! This site has been over-moderated for at least a year and a half. If they want to filter dirty words, that's OK I guess. But they filter entire concepts and opinions. It's really not cool.
I'd recommend that anyone seeking a good conversation go to Alternet. The articles are more interesting and the conversation is less filtered. I've been spending more time there and less time here.”
“Rita May Brown used that term in her book "Sudden Death" published in 1983, the problem is that quote has been around much longer than that. So in fact RM Brown is NOT the person who first used it, but in fact the NY Times has given credit to Einstein as the first person who used the term in public.”
“WRONG AGAIN. I am so tired of your GOP supporters who sit here and lie. If you earn a paycheck you pay federal income tax. Just because you do not write a check to the IRS at the end of the year does not mean you do not pay Federal Income Taxes.
And before you start with the other lie, less than 12% of people actually get ALL of the money they paid in back. So people pay their Federal Income Tax out of every single paycheck.
When are you people going to stop repeating your lies?”
Cookieman62 on May 30, 2011 at 12:03:43
“This just another example of your OUTRIGHT LIES:
"EVERYONE who works full time and earns a paycheck has Federal Income tax with held."
I have a degree in Accounting, and I have processed payroll for 20 years. I have filled out MANY tax returns in my time, and I know for a fact that you are a OUTRIGHT LIAR.
IF you check IRS Publication 15, you will see that NO FEDERAL INCOME tax is withheld until a certain level of income has been made.
You have no room to complain about what others say, or how you are treated.
When are YOU going to stop repeating YOUR LIES? When??”
Cookieman62 on May 30, 2011 at 11:38:41
“"If you earn a paycheck you pay federal income tax."
This is another of your OUTRIGHT LIES. Not all who earn a pay check make enough to have federal income tax withheld.
Instead of attacking people, YOU need to EDUCATE YOURSELF. How many times I have caught YOU LYING in the last few days?”
“The cowards are the one who have to sneak around and lie to everyone about why you are stripping collective bargaining rights from Union and have to take short cuts and violate the Open Meeting laws to do it.”
Group 8807 on May 30, 2011 at 08:19:16
“You need to think.
When the term "union" comes up, Democrats turn their brains off.”
“So you says its okay to totally ignore a police officer doing their duty just because someone wants to dance in a building that does not allow it? No I am sorry its idiots LIKE YOU who do not realize you are not 2 year olds who can do what ever they want when ever they want to.
You really need to grow up and at least try to act like an adult. The ONLY reason these people got in trouble is they REFUSED a lawful order by a police officer REPEATEDLY.
They will end up service time in jail, why? Because they were on FEDERAL PROPERTY and ignored the orders of the Federal Park Police. That is a Federal Crime, not a local crime. They will do jail time.”
“because they are don't have the ability to understand that they are paying for the private sectors MultiMillion dollar bonus's when they purchase products. They just want to blame unions for everything. The funny thing is these same low IQ posts from antiUnion benefit directly from Unions being around. I am pretty sure that NONE of them are independently wealthy, so they work for a living, and the UNIONS protect their rights even as they want to kill the unions.”
“are you going to say the same thing to a Corporation that gives MILLIONS in bonus's to its CEO's? The fact is Unions get peanuts compared to what Private Companies give their board members and CEO's and YOU PAY FOR ALL OF THAT. Are you so think you can not understand that actually using Unions SAVES money?
A study done by Rutgers Univ showed that Public Employees make on an average 14% LESS than Private Sector Employees with the same education level. The Public Employees pay MORE into their Health Care and Pensions.”