“Exactly. There's no kindling here -- a special prosecutor or congressional committee fo rthe press to follow. . . And you're absolutely right about some upright GOPers. . .Hedley Donovan of Time Inc. would have fought to get Bush and Cheney impeached.”
“People miss the point about Obama's support: it's not very deep but it's very wide. The man actually talks in full sentences and paragraphs; we're still getting used to the ideas instead of sound bites. . . it's like Richardson said, there's something good going on there and a lot of people are still trying to give him the benefit of the doubt while they find out what that good really is. . . it's not about Obamamania or mindless hero worship; on the contrary, a lot of people across the spectrum are still on the fence about him. . . pastorgate cut both ways. . .he needs to promote a tough foreign policy, taxaid to lower - mid class, hc reform and alt energy/infrastruct initiatives: rebuild America, overseas and at home . . . . obama 52 mcbush 47. . .”
“McBush the Doddering is simply no match for either Obama the Dynamic or Hillary the Processor. . . he has swilled the neo-con kool-aid and parrots the Chimpster's chickenhawk conceit, i.e. that the "first duty" of the president is "to protect the American people." Sorry, GrandPa, but just because the Fearmongerer-in-Chief says it's so, doesn't make it thus: McBush's twisted "wartime" president reprise is absolute poison to his campaign, which is why it's great the GOP can keep him under wraps for as long as possible. Obama/Hillary understand that the president 's first duty is to fulfill the oath of his office, to protect THE CONSTITUTION.. . Doing that actually makes REAL SECURITY (v. Endless War) more possible. . . ..McBush the Doddering's 60s/70s-set militaristic mindset will eventually turn away millions of independents, Democrats and Republicans alike. . . We can applaud his service to the country and still point out his manifest lack of necessary attitudes and skillsets to be a great new leader for our nation . . .”
“Yes, if you take the real expense of the off-the-books Iraq adventure, upwards of $3 trillion, and the lost federal revenue from the upper one percent who got the tax break -- $2.7 trillion -- you realize that even before the housing bubble burst and washington and wall st. began their unseemly dance of deception and conflation, our economy had a nearly $6 trillion drag on it . . . Clinton's unprecedented deregulation plus Bush's unprecedented level of profligate spending plus Wall. St's unprecedented fraudulent practiceshave put us in a deep, wide hole . . . . Thune's assertion that Obama's experiment has failed is laughable; in an extremely hostile environment, he has taken significant first steps in righting a ship of state run aground by greed, carelessness and corporatized public servants.”
“you can always tell when axelrod doesn't believe his own bs: the brow furrows and one eyebrow raises. . . he has no control over it . . . even rookie phrenologists can hit this hanging curve . . .and what doesn't he believe now: the wisdom of the deficit hawks . . . . so his current position is 100 percent political . . .they seem to think they can't claim success for the stimulus program if they are pushing for more; of course, the opposite is much easier: believe in your own successes, communicate them often and well and use them as the self-evident reason why we need more. . . that's what is so bothersome of O's style of leadership; by not declaring what he wants, he thinks he leaves himself wiggle room with the center, but HIS center -- not the crazy far lefties, the liberal CENTER, sees right through that, and when O or DA play the wiggle card because of right wing talk radio (which they ridicule yet listen to), our stomachs churn. . . my guess: we will sit on our hands for O come 2012 if he and DA don't start to get it: you got elected to govern effectively and fairly and not to play everything for possible political gain . . (.been there, done that) . . . and to play that wrongly to boot just adds to the center-left's dismay . . . .”
FREEDOM BELL on Jul 12, 2010 at 19:35:14
“Yes. The Center Left is the same as dead center in 1972. Obama and DA have lost their mojo and just look ridiculous. I'll watch to see DA's 'tells'. Thanks. F & F”
“Yeah, maybe, or perhaps this may be the first indication of how the tea partiers and repugs will begin to use the Supreme Court's Citizen's United decision to curry favor with the biggest political spenders . . . .”
“Especially when he thinks he can simply rewrite the mystery, uh, history . . .the Brown election could not have actually rallied the base "to the President's proposal," for at that point there was no "proposal" from the White House on the table, only principles . . . . what the Brown election did, in a reality that perhaps Axe doesn't care to recall, was force the President to actually come up with a "proposal" -- the 11-page document that actually did begin to rally health reform supporters . . . . if it was strategy, it certainly was brilliant, but my guess is that the timing reflects the old criticism of Obama's early political days, when he frequently voted "present" on key Illinois issues . . . but at least over the course of the health care debate, obama's persistent "presents" were all that was needed to get Pelosi et al into action . . . whether strategy or ingrained habit of idealistic , eloquent positioning followed by excessive cautiousness, it worked, even if Axelrod would rather color the proceedings in one hue alone . . . .”
“Yes, but Wellpoint knew that; they want the new customers. This is a very middle right reform package; if the GOP hadn't decided they wanted to stop Obama at any cost, they would have been able to take credit for a significant part of the final bill.”
“Right . . . listen Tony, understand this: I've been turning off the sound on tv sports for decades now, but yours is the first show where i have to turn off the picture . . . espn, please get this guy off TV; he is one gross-looking SOB who was born for radio and should never have been allowed out of that cage . . . . and of course, he's the one who disses a colleague's looks, a colleague who looks like a rare orchid compared to tony's face, which most closely resembles a slab of orangutang shit . . . . suspend him? hell, buy him some plastic surgery TODAY!”
“Actually it is the Democratic Party's fault. Every session of the Senate, under the Constitution, is allowed to set its own rules, and the last Congress failed to change the rules by simple majority vote to end the super-majority strictures on legislation. The Dems thought they had enough votes not to worry about the super-majority rule; they were wrong, the Repugs kept party discipline, and the rest is history . . . . Let's see what will happen in the new Congress if the Dems only hold a two or three seat majority. . . They still could change the rule, but my guess is they won't. Why? Fear of losing big money's big contributions. Washington may be broken or sabotaged but the industries that control it with money like it exactly that way.”
“Please, Ariana, so much in this country and world needs your wise attention; Glenn Beck does not. If all you media biggies would stop going after each other and used that time to do your real jobs, we'd all be so much better off.”
Toddler on Feb 4, 2010 at 01:08:47
“Glenn and Rush need mirrors with facts all over them whenever possible. People who vote and who are ignorant and/or don't fact check listen to them.”
Toddler on Feb 4, 2010 at 01:01:31
“Absolutely not - they need to be called out at every turn. They need to be discredited. They are influencing people who vote. People that don't take the time to fact check their lies. They are profiting off of people's ignorance and fear.”
“nay. make it Force of the Year. . . which could be a person, group, trend, brand, idea, etc., etc.”
hp blogger Mark Setton on Dec 20, 2009 at 20:43:05
“Sounds logical to me...but a little too dry?
BTW: I hope the Huffpo does this off their own bat...I think they would get an enormous response if they had a vote for Huffpo Person of the Year...and I think the Lobbyists might easily win the day...”
“No, but perhaps we can recalculate what ratio of effort in treasure and troops might be appropriate to give the Afghani people and their fledgling, corrupt government time to make some real progress. Given that some tens of millions are successfully going to protect supply lines, why not open the G-D Treasury and pay what we need to to eliminate virtually all of the Taliban's aggression.
That way, we can let the troops that are there -- without any increase -- do the training and village-by-village counterinsurgency programs (read: more money) we need to get done to keep a lid on the place enough to let us continue to go after Al-Queda operatives. That way, success against Al-Queda becomes the operative metric that counts not how many Taliban dead or areas pacified or how many warlords are making deals with the Taliban. We know how to win the war for their hearts and minds: in a word, cash. If Afghanistan isn't one big ugly toxic asset, what is? Let's slice off some of that unspent TARP money, and let's get on with re-building America, not Iraq and the Af-Pac extremist disaster zone. . . .”
“What initiative does the GOP have? To keep the status quo? Ain't gonna happen. Even if the only thing passed is insurance industry legislation to disallow non-coverage for pre-existing conditions and recission, the American people will win. Actually, Axelrod probably signalled how the public option is going to go down -- by building on what's there already, ie Medicare and Medicaid. Think about it: if you just lowered the eligibility age by 5 years every 3 years, we'd have everyone over 45 covered by Medicare in 12 years. Add mandated catastrophic private insurance for all and further expansion of SHPIG for children, tort reform over egregiously frivolous law suits and, ba-da-bing, you have real reform, no new public options, lower costs and near-universal coverage.”
“Actual cost: about one-fifth to one-third of what most Americans pay. Example: without insurance a few years back, I paid $450 cash for an MRI of my spine; after 15 minutes of research I found out what my previous blue double cross insurer would have charged: $1470. Has anybody in the White House done ANY research on their health reform enemies -- private insurers, big pharmas, etc. Pls, this health reform could have been a slam-dunk, but I guess not for a pragmatist, bi-partisan president. He says he's from Chicago and therefore tough; but he's much more a laid back dude from Hawaii seriously infected by that Aloha Spirit, which is great for the islands, just not for the mainland.”
“No, actually the only death panels in America that are working at this very moment are run by private insurance companies under the name of Medical Loss Boards, those committees that decide when to rescind already paid-for insurance among the very ill or when to deny any service due to a previously diagnosed condition.
Actually, a new public option can be written into law without much fuss: just reduce eligibility for Medicare by five years every three years so that in 12 years everyone in the country over 45 will be eligible, thus allowing private insurance companies, operating under new anti-recision and -previous condition regs, to insure the people they want to insure: the younger and healthier among us. I believe this is a simple, win-win solution.”
“Please, i have more freedom of choice under Medicare than I did with my private insurer. And as for "death panels," the only bodies that actually do make life and death decisions on seniors and others are private insurers' coverage panels. What do you think recision practices and exclusionary pre-existing condition policies are all about? I knew the American people were gullible, but I never thought of them as being so widespread ignorant as during this so-called health care reform debate. Maybe it's partially the media's fault, but a large heap of blame has to go to the Obama administration, which seems to have confused a sensible policy process/political approach -- letting Congress develop the legislation -- with a necessary public awareness/education campaign, which has been largely non-existent since the beginning of the reform process.”
“wrong . . . corporatism, i.e. capitalism without meaningful regulation, drives the boat . . . .”
cadsuch on Aug 13, 2009 at 12:57:49
“Wrong again! The boat is sinking. The communist are kicking our ass. We may have wrote the book on capitalism, but we haven't used the book ourselves since Reagan. All we have is hotshot clowns cutting big deals and creating bubbles that are about to burst. We haven't created any value since the unions were outlawed by The gipper!. The best idea we can come up with is taking the highway trust fund supported by commuters and truckers and give the money to build airports and railroads and malls while the bridges are litterally falling in the river.”
“Yes, forget Obama's conceit that he is tough because he's from Chicago. At heart, and this is why the birthers are so off-base and he doesn't need a birth certificate to prove it, he is most definitely from Hawaii. It is his manifestly lived Aloha Spirit that, I am convinced, so befuddles brilliant intellects from New Haven, Cambridge and points east. Hawaii and Chicago, a unique presidential mashup of influences that will likely stick in the craw of professional oval office observers for the foreseeable future.”
“1) Obama is not overexposed, but his messaging leadership is sorely lacking. Where are his lieutenants putting out the major talking points on health care (insurance) reform? What are those major talking points? WE just need four to six to be able to repeat ourselves, but Obama has been shown to be a poor leader in this regard.
2) RE: health care costs, my favorite stat is this: 80% of our health care spending goes toward treating people in their last two years of life. One of the secrets to humungous health insurance profits is this fact; they will rarely deny coverage to an elder in need of treatment -- surgical, medicinal or testing, for that person will likely be a wasted life (no longer alive) before too long and they must be kept alive to obtain last premiums and to give providers last reimbursements. However, a younger person who could be almost guaranteed a long life if given on extraordinarily expensive treatment will often face recision or cancellation simply because they do not pencil out as ultimately a profitable life for an insurance company. In short, what we need is health insurance reform; with effective legislation to curb such invidious demographic discrimination, health care costs would plummet.”
hp blogger William Bradley on Jul 28, 2009 at 17:18:47
“That's a very good point.
>his messaging leadership is sorely lacking. Where are his lieutenants putting out the major talking points on health care (insurance) reform? What are those major talking points? WE just need four to six to be able to repeat ourselves”