“it makes ALL the differeence. This article was posted 2 days before the biggest race of the year, probably in the entire world, for a reason. These are thoroughbred owners. I don't see the same remakres being made days before the all american futurity for quarter horses. Oh because it wont' get 1/1000th of the pub that this article will.
Just becuase a horse is a race horse, doesn't mean it's a thoroughbred racehorse. You have thoroughbreds, standardbreds, and quarter horses. Make no mistake, i will be the first toe tell you we need to get it together. The First. But I will also be the first to tell you that thoroughbred owners, with the karma program out in California, canter, old friends, are light years ahead of everyone else when it comes to this issue yet they keep getting blasted because they happen to be more popular.
the majority of the thoroughbred owners, do right by their horses. Yes some changes need to be made, but the big issue with horse slaughter is not the slaughter.
you read articles like this, that are so misinformed
“You need to learn more about what is going on besides this bias piece that was written here.
The races like the Kentucky derby are not the problem. All those horses in that race, are going to be fine rather they win the derby or come in dead last. The problem isn't at the higher end of the game. These horses will all if they go to stud or don't be turned out somewhere on a huge farm and feed carrots and peppermints the rest of their life
the problem is, you have alot of owners, who have no business owning race horses because they can't afford the aftercare. Tracks like, pimlico (now not 20 years ago), mountaineer, Charles town, the second these horses are done for the most part, there are trucks waiting for them in the back.
Horse racing itself is not cruel. But the sport needs to downsize, and purge itself of some of the people who don't belong in horse racing. It's not about being a blue blood or anything like that, but owning a horse requires a financial obligation that goes beyond vet bills and trainer fees, that alot of people just can't pay. Or won't pay.”
“Don't paint the entire industry in a bad light. There are alot out there that do right by their horses. Alot. Also keep in mind the vast majority of horses that are slaughtered are not thoroughbreds but quarter horses, the vast, vast majority, like 85%. There are places like canter and old friends across the country that do nothing but find homes and new careers for thoroughbreds.
with all that said, I'm not saying it's still not an issue and something does need to be done. We breed too many horses that no on wants.”
Insightful on May 5, 2011 at 12:54:23
“Whether they are quarter horses or thoroughbreds makes no difference. They should not be treated to this sorry cruel end. The point is how do we stop this over breeding. I have come to hate the horse racing industry that feeds so many gamblers along with the dog racing horror. It needs to be curtailed.”
GravitonX on May 5, 2011 at 10:59:05
“"We breed too many horses that no on wants."
This is exactly the problem, and the same goes for other forms of ownership. This is why I think it's inconsistent to be like a vegetarian and an animal owner.”
I am a recovered drug addict. I caused, alot of hurt in my drug addiction, a heck of alot more than Vick did with these dogs I will tell you that.
Am I sorry for what I did, every day. Would I change anything? Nope. Because it made me the person who I am today and I love the person I am today.
There is a saying in AA.. "We will not regret the past nor wish to shut the door on it."l That's all he is saying, and getting blasted for it.
I'm quite sure vick could care less what the majority of people think about him, because the majority of people have never been through what he has been through and are in no position to judge. Morality armchair quarterbacking at it's finest.
Sometimes it just takes what it takes. And it took him going through what he went through, the hardships, the cruelty and al'l to get where he is now as a person.”
mollymac on Apr 15, 2011 at 15:35:07
“Should we send him a donation and a cute little puppydog card? What he went through? If only.”
Highlander0666 on Apr 15, 2011 at 14:44:34
“Just because you are sorry, doesn't mean that he is. Drug addiction and dog fighting are not even the same, no where near it. He knew what he was doing was hurting those animals and he didn't care, he wasn't blinding by drugs like most addicts. Maybe by the money he was betting.
What did he go through? Sitting in a jail cell for a little while and then being stuck at home with millions of dollars to buy entertainment?
And yet he would torture and kill those dogs again (and encourage any others involved in the fights) just so he can learn a lesson.
The man learned nothing.”
Michael R Zemba on Apr 15, 2011 at 14:08:33
“If you did worse things than electrocuting living mammals , hanging living mammals to die , using living mammals for bait- then you should be in jail as well. Michael Vick was not addicted to murdering dogs. He enjoyed it. There is no 12 step program I’m aware of that treats Major A**holeism.”
esalter on Apr 15, 2011 at 14:04:20
ObliqueReference on Apr 15, 2011 at 13:55:28
“So you hurt alot of people but, if given the ability, you would rather keep your gains in personal development than spare many other people pain?
I know we're talking hypotheticals here but that seems incredibly selfish.”
“I used to be a drug addict and I can tell you that it works the exact same. Non addict people, don't think anything about talking down to people for relapsing, yet relapse on diets constantly. Ironically enough I was able to get clean by taking the same approach I took to my diet. I just winged myself off of the foods (And drugs) that I didn't want to use.”
SLCPunk on Apr 5, 2011 at 15:05:24
“Interesting. Did you do this all yourself or did you have help?
The reason I'm asking, is that I just had a discussion with a friend about Charlie Sheen. Sheen's main premise is, essentially, that all AA does is tap into a person's own ability to rise above their addiction, which I don't think I can necessarily disagree with. Thoughts?”