Dec 2, 2013 at 23:13:24
HuffPost Live 321
“It is definitely the end of your non-story.
These people work but because of an accumulated credit issued you have gone off the deep end again. Credits are earned because you have earned income.
Thank God some special needs people aren't waiting for you to do anything for them.”
John Truax on Dec 3, 2013 at 16:22:25
“Welfare is Welfare More Kids More Welfare peejj You never Saw a Welfare Deal You Did not Like.”
Dec 2, 2013 at 23:04:13
HuffPost Live 321
“You don't get a refund because you work? Hmm ... how much do you make and how much do you pay in taxes.
If you aren't eligible for refundable credits, you either exceed income for other credits, or with allowances and credits break even, or have some other issue.
Every tax situation has its own merits.
Who does your taxes? Have them to explain your tax situation in details, or research tax credits if you prepare your return.”
Dec 2, 2013 at 22:47:41
HuffPost Live 321
“Who earned the credit? The people who got it.
What is wrong with you people?
You are mad if someone does something good and you are mad if they do something wrong. Are you ever satisfied?”
caap1 on Dec 3, 2013 at 08:39:09
“It's a tax refund, which means they actually where cash from the treasury of the United States Government and like the article states the $54,000 was more than their total income, so please how you make less than $54,000 and paid 0 Federal tax but some how earn a $54,000 refund?”
Dec 2, 2013 at 22:45:38
HuffPost Live 321
“You only get the refundable credit one time. If they adopt more kids it will apply again ... read the tax rule.
These people didn't make the rule or exploit it. Get over it.”
caap1 on Dec 3, 2013 at 08:35:05
“It was a refund and having 12 kids will give them a refund every year of at least $18,000 which is way more than they pay in taxes which means it comes from another persons pocket and 1 time or not the money still came from someone else.”
Dec 2, 2013 at 10:33:09
HuffPost Live 321
“You are a sheltered IRS worker if you don't know that, generally, these are exceptions rather than the rules, that they have to have earned income to qualify, and part of their refund is their taxes paid.
This refund was due to the adoption credit being refundable as oppose to non- refundable (as an IRS worker I know I don't have to explain the difference).
People will find a way to abuse everything but the majority that receive EIC get the credit legally. If you don't like the rule, try to offer reasonable argument to the authority to try to get it repealed. The House is certainly in the mood to change the IRS and the 3000+ page tome of rules and regulations, including unnecessary employees.”
Dec 2, 2013 at 10:19:29
HuffPost Live 321
“You are lying ... The credit has only been available the last few years and I don't think it was renewed for the upcoming tax year.”
rrva2tx on Dec 2, 2013 at 10:48:46
“Low income people have been adopting and or having multiple kids for years to get more "money" in welfare. Stop kidding yourself...it's been going on for YEARS!”
duey35 on Dec 2, 2013 at 10:33:34
“You are misinformed because of certain tax credits this has been going on for as long as I can remember head of household, child credit, foster care credit, daycare credit. The list goes on and on. the more kids the more you get back.”
“Sued for making a joke about a news story? Surely you jest.
She was accused by someone, it made the news, a comedian, actually several, made a joke about it while not mentioning her or anyone's name.
The sad part, with the state of mind of today's juror, she may actually win if it goes to court. Think about the lady from the 90s that spilled hot coffee on her thighs when the driver went over a bump while she held the hot coffee between her thighs in a Styrofoam cup. Oh wait, didn't they say the water was too hot and McDonald's had been told to turn the temperature down? Yep, same old case. Millions paid out by restaurant, but what about driver going over the bump? Nothing because he didn't have deep pockets.”
“He, as the authority figure, asked children to join him ... unacceptable.
The man knew the rules and chose to ignore them.
I cannot quote scripture as some can, but there is a scripture regarding following the rules of the land, which as a pastor this man should have known.”
“@LilyMoon: you are what you described.
The 2 years old would have gotten over this if Mom had re-directed him, and would not even remember it without constant reminding. What the Mother proved, and you are in agreement to, is she is as inhumane as the thief. Yet, you think restraint is what is wrong with our society. I think it is unrestraint that causes problems.
Of course, we're all entitled to our opinion.”
“It is obviously about what you think as you didn't interview his daughter and ask what she thought. You and Walking the dog may want to find something more serious to be righteously indignant about.
As a very adult daughter of a HS Coach and AD, I was happy as a lark when my Dad let my brother and me tag along on the sidelines. I can assure you that holding or not holding my hand never entered my mind. As a matter of fact, I probably would not have wanted him to because I wanted to be a "big' girl so my Mom would continue to let me go and Daddy would not have said she's too young to be here.
Sometimes what we perceive as a slight is not what a child thinks at all.”
“I think you miss the point or are unaware of how the program currently works.
The current benefit is usually between $250 - $600 (depending on the state of residence) per month. If you work, those amounts are adjusted downward, sometimes to zero. Therefore, they are no better off and still in abject poverty at the end of the day.
In theory it sounds great. In practice it has not worked since it was instituted during Clinton's administration and welfare reform as touted by ... republicans.
There has to be a solution but this program hasn't worked for the last 3 administrations.”
rj9450 on Sep 4, 2013 at 23:04:33
“One of the couples I spoke of just got a job (one of them) working 25 hours per week (more than the requirement), and her EBT was cut from $526 to $500 even per month. At minimum wage that converts to $907 per month, before taxes, and she lost $26 per month in food stamps. Seems like a no-brainer to me. She is actually pretty excited, just FYI...”
“Job training program? Is this creating jobs? Wow....
I bet paying those who administer and staff the programs will cost equally or more than the yearly/monthly assistance currently given.
Have you ever interviewed anyone that has been in one? My company interviewed some people from the Texas Workforce and their vision of a work program. It was a disaster from the moment we walked in the door. People interviewed completed this program and were unprepared for doing basic receptionist, clerical, or filing work, and we interviewed for 2 days. The trainers/program administrators were either lax in their job or the majority of people in the program were educationally challenged and really needed benefits without restraints.
Work programs will work when those in charge get serious about training, there is adequate screening of participants, and adequate funding (tax money which no one wants to allocate) is available.
The gist of the matter is, it is easy to say this but most jobs are moving to suburban areas without adequate or inexpensive public transportation, and affordable daycare with availability to fit the hours to commute to and from your job if you find one. This may play to the base but it is not going to fix the problem of public assistance until people are serious about it and pay a livable wage, not scurrying political points.”
wobblysow on Sep 5, 2013 at 13:33:26
“Agreed. There are a lot of unemployable people out there. But you can't say that. You sound like a meanie then.”
wobblysow on Sep 4, 2013 at 22:31:42
“OK, never mind. Just sit around and collect food money for doing nothing.”
“Jesus Joe, don't you have any other comment to post. Tell Joe to run for president or run yourself and do a better job. Hating Obama is really a waste of your time and brain cells. You 2 Joes need to get a different life. If freedom is found in truth, you seem to be a man in extreme bondage.”
“I am sorry you are so ignorant. I didn't lump you or anyone else in with the guy who killed the woman and her son while kidnaping her daughter, or with the shooter in Connecticut or any other non-Black crime that has been committed.
So Poolkid55, see if you can clarify your statement. I am law abiding as is my husband and family. Some of my law abiding family serve our country and their state, pulling their weight and yours.”
“Maybe you should read it because all of the bull going on now has nothing, I mean absolutely nothing, to do with the real constitution.
The perception that the constitution has been hijacked is definitely bull.”
enviropal99 on Aug 13, 2013 at 00:57:20
“Read the 4th Amendment and see why most Americans feel raped by Obama's spying.”
“I can speak for students and elderly.
Why you brought illegals in the thread is beyond reasons other than to provoke more idiocy. No one is advocating illegals voting.
My 3 children were college students away from home (1 was 4 hours, and 2 about 1500 miles away) when elections were held. None of them keep their birth certificate or social security card with them, they are locked in a safe. If their state issued ID is not good enough to vote where they temporarily resided, what is? Or do you proposed we fly them home to vote? Or not vote?
I have worked with the elderly (70 to 90) and the majority of them didn't have birth certificates but their birth was recorded in a family bible or other documents. Are you advocating they not be allowed to vote?
Voting is a right and privilege that should not be made difficult like a third world or middle east country. Fraud should be investigated on an individual basis since statistical models have determined it is not a large problem in NC, FL, TX, LA, SC or any other state. If a party is looking to win by claiming voter fraud, perhaps that party, and its followers, should look at its candidates and platform.”
“What's your point?
He had a state issued ID that wasn't good enough to get work so he was asked for another state issued ID that met some convoluted plan to ascertain place of origin.
I have a state issued birth certificate from the 50's. When I applied for a passport in 1993 (3 months before I needed it), it was not accepted as proof of origin because some great minds changed what an acceptable. birth certificate should look like. Hence, about $85 later I had the same birth certificate with a raised seal and received my passport 3 days before I was to leave the country.
Do you really think the majority of people know if their birth certificate is still valid? Or if they are much older, do they even have one.
I am in Texas now and when I went to vote I was asked for photo ID and a voters registration card from the same people, at the same precinct I have always voted since moving here. But 2012 must have been something different because it is the 1st time I have been asked for both.
The purpose does seem to be disenfranchisement.”
“Stay on topic ... no one is arguing about heartbeat or anything else you suggested.
There are also conservatives that believe it is a woman, spouse (if she has one), and doctor's decision. It is not to be legislated by you or anyone else.”