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CNN's Misleading Poll on Mars Rover

Posted: 08/09/2012 2:00 pm

When you think of news networks taking aim at science, CNN is not usually the network that comes to mind. But on August 7, CNN.com put up a questionable poll:

"Is the Curiosity rover mission to Mars worth its $2.6 billion price tag?"

Of course the answer to the question is yes. It's a no-brainer. But this poll puts into question CNN's integrity. CNN isn't saying that landing on Mars isn't worth the cost; they are just asking the question, right? Wrong. In this case the question is misleading. We see a large sum of money -- in this case $2.6 billion -- and we think to ourselves, "That's a lot of money; I'll never make that much money."

The $2.6 billion is a misleading figure. According to spacenews.com:

"The price tag, also known as the life cycle cost, includes five years of development, the nine months MSL will spend en route to Mars, and two years of surface operations plus data analysis."

That's $2.6 billion over the course of nearly 8 years. That's about $325 million a year. It is practically nothing compared with other government spending. The amount of money spent on Curiosity's development, flight, and two year mission is the amount of money that the Department of Defense spends every 36 hours. Why hasn't CNN asked if the $670.9 billion a year in defense spending is worth the price tag? How come they didn't ask about the $15 billion a year on the failed war on drugs? They could play this game with nearly any government program but they chose to present a misleading figure and focus their question on the small amount spent on space science rather than on any of the actual wasteful spending that is going on in Washington.

For the price of a little over a week in Afghanistan ($300 million a day), NASA has reignited interest in science, math, engineering, and a host of other disciplines. All practical aspects of Curiosity's mission aside (and there are many), this alone makes the cost well worth it. Just imagine what NASA could do if instead of getting $2.6 billion over the course of eight years, they got an extra $2.6 billion every year or had just a fraction of the Defense budget.

The poll question that CNN posed robs us of our future. By calling into question the cost of science with misleading numbers and without the proper context, CNN is turning the public off to science and science education. CNN is quite literally turning the public against curiosity.


Read more about why space science is important in Space Chronicles: Facing the Ultimate Frontier, by Neil deGrasse Tyson.

 

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When you think of news networks taking aim at science, CNN is not usually the network that comes to mind. But on August 7, CNN.com put up a questionable poll: "Is the Curiosity rover mission to Mars ...
When you think of news networks taking aim at science, CNN is not usually the network that comes to mind. But on August 7, CNN.com put up a questionable poll: "Is the Curiosity rover mission to Mars ...
 
 
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White Raven
Eyeballs are tasty
06:45 AM on 08/14/2012
Here is an article that offers some much needed perspective about the money that gets thrown at various government projects. Yes absolutely the space program is severely underfunded and neglected, especially compared to many far less worthy endeavors that we see trillions spent on.
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04:04 AM on 08/13/2012
CNN could have phrased their question differently;

"Would you rather that we spend $300 million to maintain our presence in Afghanistan for one, solitary day, or would you rather we spend $365 million to fund the operation of Curiosity on the planet Mars for one entire year?"
05:30 AM on 08/12/2012
I enjoy the space program and wish I could support it. However It has been for awhile a fantastic waste of money. We should let other nations use their budgets to go to Mars or other places. Then come in later if need be at a significantly lower cost.

And I dont buy the argument any longer new technology will come from this research and this will not economically benefit Americans. Hello we don't make things anymore. Anything new will be made somewhere else.

Regarding just the science learned from it, again... let another nation do it and we can read about it learning exactly what we are learning now... much less expensive. Too many Americans are in poverty to spending on this stuff. Not to mention all the huge problems.
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Thinkster
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06:18 PM on 08/12/2012
Quitter.
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cheryl tobin
Alpha Dog with my pack!
09:58 AM on 08/13/2012
Excellent post Jason! F&F
11:43 PM on 08/11/2012
So--correct me if I'm wrong--if NASA hadn't sent a robot to Mars, we would have spent 2 billion dollars on the poor?

I was a CNN junkie for years. Then, in '95, it morphed into the all-OJ-all-the-time network and never recovered and now occupies the bottom tier of so-called news networks. At least Fox is sometimes unintentionally humorous. Now I couldn't even tell you what channel it's on.
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04:06 AM on 08/13/2012
I too used to watch CNN fairly regularly, until they became a comedy channel. Trouble is, we tend to laugh at them, not with them.
03:56 AM on 08/11/2012
CNN had integrity before asking this question in your mind? Really? Can I sell you a carpet with that? It may even fly a little...at least on days when CNN is behaving like a real news outlet.

:-)
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Thinkster
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06:20 PM on 08/12/2012
Many years ago (many) CNN was a great news outlet - and they did have integrity - those days are long over - CNN is just Faux Noise a little right of center instead of pegged all the way right.

Sad.
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realsurfin
Pardon me, can you help out a fellow American
11:12 PM on 08/10/2012
CNN is not batting anywhere near .300 and now is reaching...

they don't do stories well anymore.. and may shake the etch a sketch to emulate fox.
03:20 PM on 08/10/2012
Great article. This will turn out to be one of the best value "big science" projects in US history. NASA's decision to focus on hi-tech robots to explore the near solar system is turning out to be a brilliant decision. It keeps the price tag well inside the affordable range and with latest robotic technology available we are getting a huge band for you scientific buck. We could pay for several Mars rover projects just by cutting oil company subsidies, sugar subsidies, not to mention our over-funded military budget. Personally I would rather see our tax dollars going to cost effective science.
04:05 AM on 08/11/2012
That's not really a NASA "decision". It's the only way this research can be done in this century and it will continue to be done robotically at ever more distant objects in the centuries to come.

Otherwise I am agreeing with you. The political reality is that space research is a by-product of the military-industrial complex and the militarization of space. Everybody who participates in this research knows this. The national air and space museum in Washington is a wonderful example of that... a stunning exhibit that protrays this reality by placing manned spacecraft right next to ICBMs and military hardware.
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TheTightwireGuy
Attempting to balance reason and passion
06:00 PM on 08/11/2012
Hear! Hear! F&Fed.
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Dave F
Former Republican. Liberal = liberty.
01:01 PM on 08/10/2012
"That's $2.6 billion over the course of nearly 8 years. That's about $325 million a year.

Or to put the best possible spin on it, MSL/Curiosity only costs each American less than $1.05 per year. Tell me THAT isn't worth it...
04:08 AM on 08/11/2012
How dare you ask Americans to forfeit ONE CHEAP BEER a year!

:-)
08:48 PM on 08/13/2012
Considering we flush about $196 billion worth of beer -- figuratively and literally -- down the toilet...

http://www.sloshspot.com/blog/10-09-2008/The-Year-in-Beer-Beer-Drinking-in-America-by-Volume-64
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06:48 PM on 08/11/2012
Well... NASA's budget for 2012 is $17.77 billion. If you devide that by the number of American taxpayers who pay federal tax, that comes to $233.82¢.

Wow! That's a lot of beer we could buy! At least 12 cases.
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themiddleistheproblem
Polly want a cracker
11:14 AM on 08/10/2012
Look at all the 0-5s sent over to defend CNN
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pittgreg
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05:21 AM on 08/10/2012
CNN's model in something like this is to ask the stilted question, get back the obvious answer with all the unmentioned biases attached, have John King report it to Wolf Blitzer in his semi-breathless, most important thing in the world, arrogant kind of manner that he affects, and then Wolf will paraphrase John King's comments somewhat to quite inanely.

This is why CNN sucks. Bernie Shaw must wince every time he sees it.
TomMartin
Freedom and equality.
04:10 AM on 08/10/2012
So what was the result of the poll? What percentage answered yes?
03:08 AM on 08/10/2012
How dare they include poll questions about current events that the public cares about! Shame on CNN!

Why pick on space science? Because it's in the news! We have decades of public opinion polling on defense spending, and its not that interesting of a topic. This poll question was meant for a fluff piece.

My biggest beaf with your piece, however, is your assumption that Americans are idiots. Even if they don't know how much we spend on particular projects, they certainly know that we are in debt to the tune of many trillions, and can make the logical inference that the $2.6 billion isn't the direct cause of our deficit.

But even if they did -- so what? Nobody votes for one candidate over another based on their NASA budgetary stance. Small issues like these are why we elect politicians to make these decisions, rather than holding referenda -- the average ley person isn't apprised of the necessary information to weigh the costs and benefits, so they put their trust in someone who can dedicate the time necessary to make the decision appropriately.
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DangerousTalk
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09:46 AM on 08/10/2012
As a point of fact, many people in America are idiots and that is in large part due too the fact that we spend so little on education. BTW, "Beef" is spelled with two E's.

Who is talking about politics? I'm talking about turning people off to science.

The Mars Rover is in the news and CNN is a news station. CNN has a responsibility to inform the public. They should have started by accurately telling the public how little the Mars Rover actually costs compared to other government programs. But they didn't. Instead, they made it seem like it was a larger sum of money and they didn't put that sum in the context of other government spending programs. This leads people (at least 30% at last viewing) to think that it was too expensive when it was actually dirt cheap.
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Thinkster
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06:32 PM on 08/12/2012
Now you've done it - you've forced me to go onto your site - I'm adding it to my blogroll - great reading, and thanks for this article.
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themiddleistheproblem
Polly want a cracker
11:11 AM on 08/10/2012
Read the article first. Your points have nothing to do with the debate
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Olivio
Why are the republicans waging a war on women??
12:41 AM on 08/10/2012
CNN is a total disappointment: Faux Noise light. No wonder they are going down. I stopped watching anything from that network 3 years ago.
09:29 PM on 08/09/2012
i don't think the question is misleading at all? they are asking is this program the whole program at 2.6 billion dollars worth it. i say yes it is
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DangerousTalk
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12:20 AM on 08/10/2012
Did they ask if any other programs are with their budgets? No. Why are they picking on space science and not any other government program that wastes far more taxpayer money? But I already covered that in the article.
03:10 AM on 08/10/2012
They didn't ask in this particular poll, but I can assure you that CNN and other public opinion survey firms have asked about budgets for a wide number of projects. This article is meant to enrage the technorati, not provide any sort of fair assessment of CNN, its polling practices, or NASA's budgetary concerns.
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themiddleistheproblem
Polly want a cracker
11:13 AM on 08/10/2012
That's not the way the question was phrased.
09:21 PM on 08/09/2012
Ironically, CNN's parent company reported $3.6 billion revenue for its networks (including CNN) for the first quarter of 2012. They could have paid for the Mars mission themselves in 3 months and still had enough left over to buy a private island, with a fleet of yachts and jets.