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The 12 Cookies Joke

Posted: 07/11/2012 7:27 pm

A CEO, a Tea Party member and public employee sit at a table, with 12 cookies on a plate. The CEO grabs 11 cookies and tells the Tea Party member, "You better watch him. He wants your cookie."

The CEO took 11 out of 12 cookies. This isn't a question of what's fair. The CEO has the economic power to take 11 cookies, and he does.

I found a conservative blog that explained this point of view. The CEO deserved 11 cookies. Without the CEO, the 12 cookies would never have been baked. No one would have anything without the CEO. Not only did the CEO deserve 11 of the 12 cookies, but if we somehow had 15 cookies, the CEO would deserve 14. If the CEO made 24 cookies in China, he should get 23. The Tea Party member and the public employee should thank the CEO for their one cookie.

The conservative blogger acknowledged that his interpretation wasn't funny.

A recent study said that 93% of all new income in America in 2010 went to the richest 1%. The remaining 7% of all new income in the country was split up (not evenly of course) among the remaining 99% us.

For 99% of us, the average income gain was $80 for the year. The average gain for the richest 1% was $105,637 for the year. The average gain for households in the very richest 0.01% was 4.2 freakin' million dollars that year.

I immediately thought back to the cookie joke. Seven percent is essentially one in 15. Indeed, in 2010, CEOs did get 14 of the 15 cookies! The rest of us, 99% of America, split the remaining cookie.

It should be no surprise, then, that inequality is at historic highs in America, and widening fast.

Joseph Stiglitz's new book is called The Price of Inequality: How Today's Divided Society Endangers Our Future. What Stiglitz adds to public discussion is an analysis of dangers of this inequality in terms of political stability, social cohesion, public trust, and ultimately economic prosperity.

Stiglitz is a Nobel Prize laureate in economics, former chief economist at the World Bank, and he served on the Council of Economic Advisors in the Clinton administration. He puts the issue squarely in political terms, paraphrasing Bill Clinton's campaign motto, "It's the politics, stupid!" We in the 99% have lost political power. The richest 1% have consolidated political power, and used it to shape our society to their advantage.

By shoveling 93% of new income to the top 1%, we are currently living the cookie joke in full measure. This isn't working. If trickle-down policies could ever work, then our figurative cookie-bakers would already have hired millions of new employees. They didn't. It hasn't worked for the last 35 years.

It doesn't work.

Well... it doesn't work for 99% of us. Stiglitz puts it this way, "We've been shaping our society to create people who are more selfish." Increasingly, policies are created by the richest 1%, and for the richest 1%. Their interests are placed first, through globalization, privatization, deregulation and insanely expensive political campaigns.

Meanwhile, 99% of us are put at risk. We risk losing our jobs, our economic security, our homes, health care, education for our children, and economic opportunities.

"As always [the rich] seem to be the winners from the policies that they advocated and that imposed such high costs on others."

This is bad for democracy, bad for our future as a nation, bad for our ability to solve serious problems on national and international levels, bad for the environment and the planet, and just plain bad.

We could just as well shape society to restore balance to our social, political and economic life. We start with a rehabilitation of the Social Contract. We need each other to prosper. That is, our neighbors must prosper for us to prosper.

We need to restore trust in institutions of civil society. That includes government.

Bad government and bad policies can threaten our future. Good government and good policies can raise our living standards and provide economic, social and political security.

Warren Buffet recognizes that fact. For all his intellect, hard work and cookie-baking skills, if he had been born in Bangladesh he knows his net worth today would be a tiny fraction of his current billions. His success depended on prosperous customers and sound government.

We can manage globalization better, and we can manage our domestic policies better.

Democracy works best when we have strong institutions of civil society and when all stakeholders are involved in decisions. Institutions of civil society speak for the environment, human rights, labor rights, public health, education, fair and honest elections, reasonable regulation, good corporate governance, and investment in public goods.

It's not enough to "make business succeed," or to "compete in a global economy." We need to finish the thought: "... and raise the standard of living for us and our children."

 

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Tcolby6
12:43 PM on 07/13/2012
So true.
PROGRESSISGOOD
Without Economic Justice, There Is No Justice!
10:37 AM on 07/13/2012
Independence and individualism was the model for success in the 19th century. In the 21st century the model for sucess is interdependence and collaboration.

Those nations that learn best how to collaborate and work interdependently are going to dominate the world.
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guveqzero
Inventor and Innovator
08:12 AM on 07/13/2012
The us constitution was created for the benefit of people, especially those that have been abused. Now that it has become corrupted, the constitution only serves the rich.
07:39 PM on 07/12/2012
The question that differentiates a Democrat from a Republican was posed long ago by Thomas Benton (American 19th century statesman)

There are but two parties; there never have been but two parties.

Founded in the radical question, whether PEOPLE or PROPERTY shall govern.

Democracy implies a government by the people.
Aristocracy implies a government of the rich.

In these words are contained the sum of party distinctions.

Men by their constitutions are naturally divided into two parties:
1. Those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes.
2. Those who identify themselves with the people, have confidence in them, cherish and consider them as the most honest and safe, although not the most wise depositary of the public interests. In every country these two parties exist, and in every one where they are free to think, speak, and write, they will declare themselves. Call them, therefore, Liberals and Serviles, Jacobins and Ultras, Whigs and Tories, Republicans and Federalists, Aristocrats and Democrats, or by whatever name you please, they are the same parties still and pursue the same object.

The last one of Aristocrats and Democrats is the true one expressing the essence of all. --Thomas Jefferson to Henry Lee, 1824.
satyrday
If my micro-bio is way too long, will it be trunca
12:07 PM on 07/12/2012
Even if the CEO 'deserved' 11 cookies, he certainly didn't make them. Now the work force that made them (the tea partier and the union guy) has been cut in half. Hence now they can only make 6 cookies.

The CEO has shot himself and the company in the foot.

And that's where we are today.
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DocJoseph
A bleeding heart will heal; a cold heart will not
12:25 PM on 07/12/2012
I'm sure the calculation is that the CEO can live very well on his six cookie income. Ironically, they would rather lose profits in the long run that improve the lives of those upon whom profits are based.

Then they'll take their millions and - whatever. It won't be a hard life.
02:41 PM on 08/16/2012
You don't have to eat the CEOs cookies. Go make your own cookies. If making cookies is apparently so damn easy you should do it yourself.
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John Galt2
My life is my own...
12:01 PM on 07/12/2012
Well gosh, shouldn't we fire the individual responsible for "shoveling" 93% of the income in 2010 to the top 1%? Who is that person?

"If trickle-down policies could ever work," - what exactly is a 'trickle-down policy"? Specifically, what economist, or what school of economics espouses the "trickle down theory"? A link would be highly appreciated.

More class warfare; don't concentrate on what I have,or what I desire and then how do I get there. No, better to focus on my envy and my desire to use the force of government to institute "fairness", as defined by me! Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending cronyism - the true enemy of the people.

Societies can either be free, or they can be "fair" (egalitarian); they cannot be both.That was the disastrous mistake the French made in 1789 - Brotherhood, Liberty, and Equality - #2 & #3 cannot be achieved at the same time.

This is a short tome that is worth reading. It was written in 1935, just as FDR's regime was really getting cooking. It makes a point of distinguishing the economic means of making a living from the political means, as well as the difference between government (a good thing) and the state (a very bad thing):

http://mises.org/books/Our_Enemy_The_State_Nock.pdf
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DocJoseph
A bleeding heart will heal; a cold heart will not
12:34 PM on 07/12/2012
"trickle down" refers to supply side economics.

It comes from a joke by Will Rogers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics

And "that person" is, in the end, the "person" that benefits from the wealth generated by low taxes. Wealth buys tax reform that favors wealth.

What economist espouses "trickle down theory"? Are you seriously that uninformed? You can look up supply side economics, or you can just do the short version called "Reagonomics".

Buffet was correct when he said, "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”
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John Galt2
My life is my own...
02:40 PM on 07/12/2012
thanks for making my point - it is not an economic theory or concept, rather a term of disparagement..

Again, supply side economics says nothing about "trickle down effects" nor "Reaganomics" - more disparagement by the ignorant.

Low taxes "generate wealth" -please advise the mechanism by which that statement is true. I was always under the impression that wealth (or more correctly stated, income) must be genrated for there to be anything to tax!
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myth1958
reasonable, except when I'm not
06:11 AM on 07/12/2012
All the capitalism cheerleaders (Republicans, Libertarians and their ilk) seem to have drunk the Koolaid: if we keep feeding the wealthy, they'll drool or drop some crumbs on the rest of us - which we should be grateful for. The debate over raising taxes solely on the wealthiest Americans - those earning over $250,000/yr. - reveals how the 1% controls Congress. This proposal isn't to impose Sweden-style tax rates (over 50% for the richest), but rather a small increase of a few points. The rich won't even notice the effect, if these progressive taxes were imposed, due to the fact that, well, they're so darn rich. But the 99% would notice. There might be enough revenue to keep essential programs running, ensure Social Security is solvent and spend more on a cure for cancer to boot. I don't follow the cheerleader's enthusiasm for the rich: is it because you all yearn to be rich yourselves? Do these wealthy Americans drop drool and crumbs in your lap to keep you loyal? Or are you just anti-poor folks?
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ronin8404
The FF were right, except when they were wrong.
10:35 AM on 07/12/2012
They would have us believe that a 4.6% tax hike would be Armageddon. The real golden goose for the 1% is the long term cap gains tax rate. The 15% rate is a boon to the uber-wealthy.
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myth1958
reasonable, except when I'm not
04:00 PM on 07/12/2012
So right, Ronin8404. There are lots of examples like that. The wealthy have their businesses pay for everything we normally pay out-of-pocket for, and then write it off their taxes. There IS such a thing as a free lunch - if you have good accountants.
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John Galt2
My life is my own...
12:08 PM on 07/12/2012
If the the effect is so small - why not put it where the money is, the vast middle and lower classes?

Or won't that sell to BHO's voting base? It's only a couple points, right? Besides, what right do high earners have to the fruits of their labor anyway. What they've got belongs to the rest of us, right?

You could tax the top 1% at 100% and not touch the unfunded liabilities of SS and Medicare. And BHO's desired expansion of Medicaid will now be a fully Federal expense for those states that opt out. That's going to take far, far, far more cash from SOMEbody. Who's that somebody gonna be?

By the way, how does the "1%" control congress? The Reps only control the house.
PROGRESSISGOOD
Without Economic Justice, There Is No Justice!
10:46 AM on 07/13/2012
Median income $45,000. 5% of $45,000 is an extra $2,225 in taxes from the middle class earner. That money comes out of his food budget, his children's college education fund, his mortgage payment or his rainy day savings. Any one of which will cause economic harm.

The millionaire will pay $50,000 more that will mean his next mansion will have one less bathroom.
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Earl Gray
Lighting up straw men everywhere
01:44 AM on 07/12/2012
At a certain point, as history has proved again and again, the people being forced to share the single cookie will gang up to take away those 14 cookies.

Tragically, this has always ended up with a bunch of cookie crumbs.
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medicontheedge
big loud broad
09:05 AM on 07/12/2012
Well said.
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John Galt2
My life is my own...
12:09 PM on 07/12/2012
If those who have the 14 cookies got them legally, what right do you have to take them from them?

If they stole them, call a cop.
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Earl Gray
Lighting up straw men everywhere
08:49 PM on 07/12/2012
It really comes down to how hungry I am.
PROGRESSISGOOD
Without Economic Justice, There Is No Justice!
10:48 AM on 07/13/2012
What was earned legally by the filthy rich (through tax breaks enacted by their bought and paid for politicians) can be taken away just as legally thorugh new laws enacted by politicians who actually represent we-the-people.
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Allene Stucki
12:51 AM on 07/12/2012
Liberals speak of wealth being "distributed" (and they claim unfairly distributed), sort of like manna from heaven, Wealth is not "distributed", wealth is PRODUCED, by the sweat of somebody's brow.

The highly productive obviously produce far more wealth than do the marginally productive, and the unproductive. We should be grateful for this fact. If the highly productive did NOT greatly outproduce the marginally productive and the unproductive, there wouldn't be anything to RE-distribute, and we'd ALL be poor!
skykam
Sarcasm is a dish best served bitter.
04:03 AM on 07/12/2012
AH, but it isn't the highly productive producer getting the wealth he has produced. That wealth is being "distributed" to the CEOs. Thus as producers become more and more highly productive the CEOs get richer and richer while the producer tries to hold even before burning out.
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John Galt2
My life is my own...
12:12 PM on 07/12/2012
If the CEO's aren't the producers, who are? The workers? They get paid a wage & benefits for their production, what more are they due? If the producers feel under-compensated, they are right to ask for a raise, or find more remunerative employment elsewhere.

By what right are the workers due anything more?
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My Mate Pat
Nobody's Nationalist
07:28 AM on 07/12/2012
Are wall street bankers productive at all? I thought they just passed money around, taking a bit for themselves as it passes by.
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John Galt2
My life is my own...
12:12 PM on 07/12/2012
Marx said much the same about capitalists, and the bourgeoisie...
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Allene Stucki
12:19 PM on 07/12/2012
Sorry, that question/comment doesn't qualify as "thought".
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MassWG
12:34 AM on 07/12/2012
"Good government and good policies can raise our living standards and provide economic, social and political security. Warren Buffet recognizes that fact."

Please. Warren Buffet recognizes that he is one of the 0.0001% that has the money, influence and power to milk the corrupt system for all it's worth.

http://reason.com/archives/2012/02/09/warren-buffett-baptist-and-bootlegger/singlepage

"Buffett is very much a political entrepreneur; his best investments are often in political relationships. Indeed, the success of some of his biggest bets and the profitability of some of his largest investments rely on government largesse...

An April 2011 working paper found that firms with political connections were much more likely to get TARP funds than firms that were not well connected. The study found that politically connected firms, despite the infusion of federal funds, were outperformed by unconnected firms. In other words, poorly run but well-connected companies got the loot.

'The pattern is clear: The bailout money and the perks are concentrated among the big banks, the ones who pay the lobbyists and make the campaign contributions, while the healthy banks pay the freight.'

Buffett needed the TARP bailout more than most. Berkshire Hathaway firms received $95 billion in TARP money. TARP-assisted companies constituted a whopping 30 percent of Buffett’s publicly disclosed stock portfolio. The folksy outsider, the Houston Chronicle concluded in an April 2009 investigative piece, was one of the top beneficiaries of the banking bailout.”