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Stephen Kaus

Stephen Kaus

Posted: February 12, 2008 02:29 AM

Sister Frigidaire Tries To Ice MSNBC


David Shuster and Katie Couric have opened windows on Hillary Clinton's character and the view is not pretty.

By speaking on cable television in the way that everyone regularly speaks on the Internet, Shuster gave us a preview of speech control in Hillaryland, where no one can take a joke and everyone is supposed to speak as if they were writing a politically correct official report.

The Clinton campaign could have laughed or brushed aside the comment as being incomprehensible. Instead they reacted by first calling it "beneath contempt," and then by a prissy, censorious letter from Clinton worthy of school head Joan Cusack in School of Rock:

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I know that I am a public figure and that my daughter is playing a public role in my campaign," she wrote. "I am accustomed to criticism, certainly from MSNBC. I know that it goes with the territory.


"However, I became Chelsea's mother long before I ran for any office and I will always be a mom first and a public official second.

"Nothing justifies the kind of debasing language that David Shuster used and no temporary suspension or half-hearted apology is sufficient.

"I would urge you to look at the pattern of behavior on your network that seems to repeatedly lead to this sort of degrading language.

"There's a lot at stake for our country in this election. Surely, you can do your jobs as journalists and commentators and still keep the discourse civil and appropriate."

Can Captain Renault be far behind? What exactly was Shuster's offense? Using the work "pimp" in a non-sexual connotation? Criticizing the Clinton campaign's use of Chelsea? I realize the language is unusual for television, but it is mild for the Internet and certainly far milder than a lot of what Chelsea Clinton has heard, probably at home. I'm thinking this also has something to do with the hard time Chris Matthews gave Bill over Monica.

And who appointed Clinton language czar? Does she plan to police cable television language from the White House, sort of like Harry Truman threatening accurate reviewers of his daughter's singing?

By asking Hillary on 60 Minutes about being known as Miss Frigidaire in high school, Couric brought out more of the real Hillary:

COURIC: Someone told me your nickname in school was Miss Frigidaire. Is that true?"


CLINTON: Only with some boys," Clinton said, laughing.

COURIC: I don't know if I want to hear the back story on that!

CLINTON: Well, you wouldn't want to know the boys either.

(Apparently, the real story, as reported by Carl Bernstein, is that Hillary's high school yearbook predicted she would become a nun, and would be known as Sister Frigidaire.)

I am guessing the "some boys" that Clinton thinks Couric would not want to know were normal intelligent people who had a sense of humor and had spotted someone who did not. I don't remember too many low-lifes working for our high school yearbook.

Which is more scary: Clinton attacking Shuster as a cynical political move, sort of David Shuster as Sister Souljah, or Clinton thinking that Chelsea really needed protection? If it is the latter, we need an intervention. This is a 28 year old graduate of Stanford and Oxford who works for a hedge fund. "Pimp" is mild.

Either Chelsea is a political actor or she is not. If she can give speeches on her own and can call superdelegates, she is fair game, period.

This controlling humorlessness is nothing new. In 1996, Don Imus made a speech to the Radio and Television Correspondents' Dinner that started out with a joke about the unlikely saga of Hillary's newly found billing records ("This is kind of interesting, these don't appear to be my notes") and proceeded to make fun of Whitewater and Bill's philandering.

The Clintons, who were in the dais, could have laughed and no one would have known about the speech except the three shut-ins watching CSPAN. Instead they sat there stony-faced and then asked CSPAN not to repeat the speech as scheduled.

Of course, they got the last laugh as Media Matters, the paramilitary arm of the Clinton family, broke the story of Imus' Rutgers remarks and eliminated another Hillary critic. As others warned, Imus' firing, although certainly justified by his incredibly racist and sexist comments, opened the sluice gates for the thought and language police to demand the head of anyone whose comments had not been properly filtered by their brain.

Hillary's propensity to seek control over everyone else is plain scary. Who could want to live in the nanny state she obviously relishes? Better she should worry about what made her vote for the Iraq war.

We need robustly free speech, not cowed speakers. This means that people, even good people, sometimes will say offensive things. Instead of those with every ability to answer back being offended by language and trying to silence others, we would be a lot better off if they would debate the underlying ideas.

If you scroll down, I guarantee you will find me, and probably my mother (who came up with the Harry Truman reference), being called much worse than a pimp. "No half hearted apology is sufficient." How insufferable.

Note: the last two lines from the Couric interview are not in the official CBS transcript. Preemptive editing?

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mari2JJ
VERY moderate Republican!
10:18 PM on 02/17/2008
Only the most disgusting parent woule laugh when someone called their daughter a pimp. I can see how kids are so confused about right and wrong when someone defends name calling of this ilk. Amazing.
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janvoght
lover of Life...
07:32 PM on 02/17/2008
Hillary is NOT bill. all in all, bill was an exceptional leader, mostly out of a naturla talent and charisma, not unlike barack obama. unfortunately hillary has a good heart, but not the persona that could be characterized as warm and embracing. she is obviously riding on the coattails of her husband. that being said, she has a life of public service and will probably stop at nothing to add to her legacy, the office of the president of the united states. i think our country has been bludgeoned to a state of emergency, with a real need for an honest healing experience like obama. we don't need a scolding, and i have a feeling that's what we are in store for with HRC, no?
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Rockerbabe
01:06 PM on 02/17/2008
Shuster and Couric are two reasons why the attacks on Senator Clinton are so profound and insidious. They both think it is alright to badmouth a person running for office, but only if she is a white woman. Their sexism is there for all to see. Maybe what is needed is a change in the networks and their anchor persons. Shuster and Couric are in over their heads just like so many of the pundits on the Sunday news shows. Their obvious bias against Senator Clinton in favor of one or both of the "boys" running for office is stunningly obvious. I have stopped watching these shows and more importantly, I have stopped buying from the sponsors of the shows. The sporadic appearance of inapproproiately dressed women who go along with hate banter doesn't help much-a career and income booster I suspect. Who would of thought that the news and media would have been so against one candidate "just because" she's a girl. So much for a progressive sociey.
04:08 PM on 02/17/2008
are you related to Sister Frigidaire? If Ms. Clinton can make fun of Mr. Obama's kindergarten dreams her year book nick-names by fellow classmates are certainly open for discussion!

i was looking for a way to describe her aloof demeanor & this is definitely succintcly suitable. think i'll make some bumper-stickers.
11:26 AM on 02/17/2008
Sister Frigidaire Indeed!
08:13 AM on 02/17/2008
Mr. Kaus: If you are so sure that the language was inoffensive, then please imagine Shuster said that Barak Obama, who has brought his daughters to cavort on stage with him,is "pimping them out in a weird sort of way". Especially since his daughters are underage and had no choice?

How long do you think Shuster would have kept his job? Why are Obama's daughters, who were obviously decorating the stage to promote their dad, sacred, while Chelsea is subject to degrading comments?

It is extremely common for adult children of politicians to 'stump' for their parents. Chelsea Clinton is following a tradition, not doing anything weird or new.

Perhaps, Stephen Kaus, your background as a lawyer has made you keenly aware of the fine distinctions between legal and illegal, but maybe you've forgotten or have never known the difference between civil discourse and contemptuous base born slander.
04:11 PM on 02/17/2008
poor little rich Chelsea needs her mommy the way her mommy needs little Billy.

let's fire the entire media for inappropriate comments. hey, let's all move to Russia!
04:15 PM on 02/17/2008
Chelsea Clinton is a grown woman who works for a hedge fund. Her family is wealthy and powerful and she has had a privileged education and freedom to do as she chooses. She has chosen to become a political operative for her mother, her employer apparently grants her the freedom to do this and she, or her family, has the money for her to do such things without concern for paying the rent, mortgage or the light/cable bill. It is a sad state of affairs when such a creature is assumed to be so delicate of spirit that a silly comment from a reporter might affect her in some way.

As an aging working white woman who supports my family because my husband is ill, who worried about missing work recently because he had surgery, David Schuster can say anything he wants about me if I can have Chelsea's freedom, money, privilege and power.

Mrs. Clinton hasn't a clue what affects my life but the phrase "pimped out" applied to me or anyone else in the context of the remarks on MSNB", is nowhere on my list of concerns. And I think anyone who can be concerned about such things not only has not sense of humor but also needs to learn a bit about how most of us live.
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Lisette
Paris is always a good idea!
02:55 AM on 02/17/2008
I agree with all of your posts! This one is especially good. And, I do not understand why anyone would vote for Hillary or Bush. I am totally opposed to political dynasties.
Lookong foward to your nest article.
01:34 AM on 02/14/2008
I am certainly not a prude, but Schuster's pimp remark was inappropriate at best. It should cost him. Katie Couric's remark dates back to high school days and should have remained there. The media can't possibly get much worse.
04:12 PM on 02/17/2008
not a prude? inappropriate at best? and Katie's such a toughie! whooo-wheee! let's all move to Beverly & get a concrete pond!
12:02 PM on 02/13/2008
Remember that Hillary also co-sponsored the most recent anti flag-burning legislation. We're seeing a pattern emerge of her being weak on freedom of expression, even hostile to it.

The price of freedom is offense.
-Benjamin Franklin
06:45 AM on 02/13/2008
Remeber when you were in high school.
I remeber when my daughter was in high school.
I also know that even though my daughter is a grown woman, if some moron on TV put her name and the word Pimp in the same sentence I would be pissed.
Just because you and MSNBC hate Hillary does not mean that you can use that kind of language when reffering to her child.
There have never been any sordid stories about Chelsea.
The Bush twins however...
08:21 AM on 02/13/2008
It's not 1998 anymore. She hasn't been in highschool for like 10 years :P
05:40 AM on 02/13/2008
A very good article. Hillary can vote for war, support war enthusiastically for years, until she runs for President. Billary can suck up to neocons, we have 72000 dead and wounded soldiers in Iraq. And does Hillary become indignant over substance? Has Hillary shown as much emotion demanding an end to the war, an end to torture, or any of the other criminal abuses of W? No, Hillary becomes indignant and demands justice because she has been slighted by a reporter. Hillary loves winning sympathy by pretending to be a victim. Well, if she can't stand the heat, she should get out of the kitchen. All the while whining about how she is picked on, for years she has passed up the opportunity to truly make a difference. Now it is too late for her. Playing a victim does not make her qualified to be President.
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splashy
Really?!?!!!
05:14 AM on 02/13/2008
Wow!

Notice how other candidates have their children campaigning for them, but no one talks about it in a sexual way? Pimping implies the lack of choice for the one being pimped, and abuse on the part of the pimp. Notice how it was ONLY used in the case of Clinton?

So, it seems to me that Clinton was RIGHT to be angry, since it was an obvious singling out of her campaign, which was doing the EXACT SAME THING as the other campaigns but HER child was being slurred for it.
11:07 AM on 02/13/2008
since Bill Clinton is the 1st black president why is Hillary so shocked that someone would say they are pimping out their daughter?
12:20 PM on 02/13/2008
OK splashy I'll say it then, they are all Pimping out their kids to campaign for them. Feel better now?
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StillAmused
Some mayo on that troll, please...
02:47 AM on 02/13/2008
"What exactly was Shuster's offense? Using the work "pimp" in a non-sexual connotation?"

Kinda like if I suggest you go [expletive**] yourself? Y'know... "in a non-sexual connotation"?

If you're going to contort yourself like that in a lame attempt to suggest that the implicit meaning of "pimp" isn't universally understood (screw your disingenuous, tragically-hip filter), be sure to have an attending orthopedic surgeon on hand... just in case you get stuck in an awkward position.

** I had to CENSOR MYSELF to get this posted (the full-frontal version was canned) and YOU whine about "preemptive editing"? What "insufferable" hypocrisy.
09:00 PM on 02/12/2008
Goodbye, Huffpo. For the last 4 years, I've enjoyed daily readings of your pages as a fresh alternative to the mainstream outlets. However, what I've witnessed over the past few months is a crescendo of ill will that has the potential of causing real damage in November. Huffpo has taken its eye off the ball and all this divisiveness is irresponsible in addition to being a real turn-off. There's a lot of ill will brewing between people who should ultimately be on the same side. Effective now, I'm removing Huffpo from my Favorites.
01:03 AM on 02/13/2008
It will be over soon. Might as well tune out America.
03:02 AM on 02/13/2008
Yeah Dulcinea, the Hillary-bashing here is getting ridiculous! What the frig is wrong with people? Anyone ever wonders here why the Reps are sooo thrilled with "Hope" Obama? There are darn good reasons that they want to run against him rather than a Clinton!!!
GET A CLUE, PEOPLE!!! Hope is a nice sentiment but won't solve any problems...
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splashy
Really?!?!!!
05:16 AM on 02/13/2008
I agree with you bkb. This is really getting to be a real astonishing thing to see! What is wrong with everyone?
08:37 PM on 02/12/2008
Two distinct messages are evident in this article by Stephen Kraus.

women are not weak individuals in need of defense, and, humor can diffuse any situation. Ergo, Hillary Clinton is a strong woman, and humor could have saved her some trouble.

This society has no time to waste on single words.Chelsea Clinton is not a Damsel in any kind of distress, Her mother is a politician by choice. No one is enslaving anyone here. But the public is held hostage by the electoral process.

No matter who used what word, the result is a reaction which needs to be examined as a precursor to the political relations to come. Would there be reactionary retaliations in the future of foreign affairs?

Would one popular group be favored over another? We are locked in a color to gender code. Should the country wait one more term before setting sights on feminine power?. A few more options and names added to the roster for good measure.

Hillary is a successful mother, of a successful daughter, so why do we fear the undercurrent? What do we see in the set of the jaw and the glint of that eye? We need to detect the cold drafts before we all suffer from frosbite.
08:05 PM on 02/12/2008
Schuster is another IMUS. I see you are giving him a big gaffaw and ole boy cover. There is so much talk about "CHANGE" in the body politic with Obama. If the kind of change that he is bringing out in people is these heightened vulgar attacks boosted by main stream media and mob mentality, I don't see much difference from Karl Rove's America.

Rove has prevailed. He altered the window dressing by co-opting and flattering the young and the blacks. They are hysterical with joy, actually believing thier ship is going to come in. With help of corporate America and the MSM media, the GOP has hand picked the Democratic nominee and stolen the election. Cha-ching!

The Rovian message is the same as it was: the rich get rich, and the poor get porked. More money gets made than ever before. America is in for the worst ride it has ever taken, Bush's legacy intact.