Giuliani: Worse Than Bush

Posted August 22, 2007 | 11:33 AM (EST)



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The Republican presidential frontrunner, former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, has just written his foreign policy credo for Foreign Affairs magazine. It is a truly unnerving pronouncement -- even worse than Bush-ism. Not unexpectedly, Mr. Giuliani backs all of the most brazen features of the Bush administration's global agenda. But he tosses in several deeply scary initiatives of his own that George W. never touched.

Giuliani first provides a post-facto assessment of the Vietnam War which serves as his base doctrine. He believes we could have won the war but we precipitously "withdrew" our support in 1972. Had we stayed, he says, South Vietnam would have achieved "political self-sufficiency." Instead, by caving into an "expansionist Soviet Union." we created a "weaker America." Few historians, foreign policy experts or political figures give any credence to this thesis. And, aside from the irony that Giuliani is criticizing Richard Nixon, a president of his own party for such "errors," he fails to acknowledge the fact that 58,000 American soldiers had already died for a South Vietnamese government that was hopelessly corrupt and had no popular support -- and that the American public was utterly fed up with the conflict. Nor does the former mayor address the secondary point that the putatively omnipotent USSR 17 years later lost the Cold War to the apparently "enervated" USA.

With Vietnam as his global measuring stick, Giuliani ticks off all of the programs he plans to hold fast to from the Bush era. He promises to pursue Bush's strategy in Iraq relentlessly to "eliminate the export of terror," and warns that, as in Vietnam, any withdrawal would be a sign of weakness and "an invitation for more war." He does not conceive of, admit to, or even mention the possibility of a region-wide political settlement which even now the Bush Administration is apparently contemplating. In addition, he would "press ahead" with an anti-ballistic missile system -- regardless of its outsized costs or ineffectiveness. And he would, as he says, "pursue the gains made by the USA Patriot Act and not unrealistically limit electronic surveillance or legal interrogation." Sounds a lot like an embrace of unrestricted presidential power and possibly torture.

For Israel, he now opposes the "creation of another state" in Palestine -- a repudiation of Bush's own stance. On Iran, "should all else fail," he would destroy that nation's nuclear infrastructure -- a mini-Cheney on steroids. More broadly, though, he would ratchet up our public diplomacy, expand the old Cold War radio stations, ditto with Internet networks, and insist that our US ambassadors "clearly advocate for US policies" -- a kind of in-your-face proselytizing of the sort the former mayor practiced so fervently when he ran New York City.

But Mr. Giuliani's most peculiar innovations are with the United Nations and NATO. Predictably, he is anti-UN -- as he was as mayor of NYC. But he goes further and argues that the UN has "proved irrelevant to the resolution of almost every major dispute of the last fifty years." This is a breathtaking display of incomprehension. Just a reminder: the UN stopped the invasion of South Korea; settled the Suez crisis of 1956; assisted in the ending of the Cuban missile crisis of 1963; ousted Saddam Hussein from Kuwait in 1991. It brought peace to conflicts in Guatemala, Angola, Mozambique, El Salvador, Cambodia and helps keep the peace in Cyprus. More recently, it aided Haiti in holding an election and ending violence, pushed the Syrians out of Lebanon, enforced a ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon and presently supports a dozen or so other peacekeeping missions.

Now we come to the ex-mayor's most bizarre suggestion -- that NATO be encouraged to act "globally," be reconfigured to confront "significant threats to the international system," and "we should open the organization's membership to any state" -- though it is a European-based body. Is Mr. Giuliani thus proposing that NATO replace the UN as the world's arbiter? And why not? Since the US dominates NATO, this would give Washington a direct means to extend its security purvey over the entire planet. This is a vision consistent with the authoritarian instincts with which Mr. Giuliani governed NYC. Still his retro-policies appear to be out of kilter with the times. He will have a lot of explaining to the American electorate about his foreign policy weltanschauung. It should be an illuminating exercise that may actually remind voters of why the only elected post he has ever risen to is mayor.


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RUDY HAS THE SAME PROBLEM AS BUSH. HE HAS NEVER BEEN IN THE SERVICE. IF HE HAD, HE WOULD HAVE SEEN VIET NAM PERSONALLY. WE WITHDREW BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING OUR ASSES KICKED. FROM EXPERIENCE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT WAS NOT A PLEASANT PLACE. RUDY,WE MISSED YOU!
HE WILL HAVE TO DO MORE THAN WALK AROUND THE RUINS OF 9-11.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 08/28/2007

Guiliani's global views reflect the deterioration of American values. His radical and fanatical views should be vigorously contested by the American people. As was the case in Southeast Asia in the 50's, 60's and 70's is now being repeated in the Middle East, that our intervention and occupation will produce nothing, cost America dearly, and weakened the Country overall. There are more meaningful ways to lead the World outside of the flippant use of US Military power.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 08/27/2007

NATO replacing the UN works for me.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 08/26/2007

Wasn't it Giuliani that piped off with that whole "freedom is respect for authority" or whatever? SOMEbody needs to go buy a dictionary...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 08/26/2007

Giulianni as president truly frightens me. He's every bit as tyrannical as GW, but smarter.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 08/26/2007

Saying Rudy is worse than Dubya is like saying that the mayor of Berlin during its burnt Reichstag was worst than Hitler.

Rudy is as much a puppet of GOP fascism as the media and its bought and sold pundits.

With a voweled surname, Giuliani couldn't win even if he were a righteous Dem. He's a joke.

But then so is America these days.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 AM on 08/26/2007

These war"s on terrorism has been great for my stock portfolio it has skyrocketed since the Iraqi war started. One has to know how to invest before these wars start that is the key to success in the American stock market.

I paid off my house two years early with all the money I have made from this war. And with gas prices lower than ever I have more money to invest in our industrial military complex.

Rudy is my choice for pres. Didn"t he say something about nuking Iran or was that Cheney. The Iran war will be a bonanza for my stock portfolio. At least my children and grandchildren will not have to fight these wars against evil empires as they all attend elitist"s schools and universities like mitt"s and Rudy"s. And I can afford to send all of them to these elitists" schools if we can get into a war with Iran the evil empire.

I am a proud American and proud Christian. I try very hard to live by my Christian values I say a prayer for gays every time I see one and don"t get me started on abortion.

Recently at a national race 14000 fans stood up and sang "proud to be an American" now that is love of country. I was so proud of these people and their pride in our invading Iraq and winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqis. The Iraqis are so much better off now that they have democracy. We have a great military and military planners in Washington so proud of them. They are truly heroes.

Proud American Christian red white and blue all over.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 AM on 08/26/2007

Holy Moley! And I thought Bush was a whack job!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 AM on 08/24/2007

If you think Rudy is bad( and by the way I'm awfully glad all this stuff, especially what comes from him directly, is coming out now, thank you), look out for Mitt. He's equally bad, just slicker. Beware!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 08/24/2007

Vote for this man and you vote down the United States of America. He is glib beyond compare and repair. He would take us even further down the tube to Armageddon. His arrogance and self-righteousness alone ought to frighten all of us. Moreover, his alliance with the extremist zionists is chilling.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 08/23/2007
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