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Comic Book Men Review

Posted: 02/12/2012 5:20 pm

It took a full 30 seconds for the cast of Kevin Smith's Comic Book Men to make their first penis joke. Immediately, we realized the show would do little to dispel any of the stereotypes associated with comic store owners and staff.

AMC's new reality show chronicles the life and times of five people working at the New Jersey comic book store "Jay and Silent Bob's Secret Stash." Cutting between shenanigans at the store, a roundtable podcast, and the pursuit of rare collectibles, Comic Book Men promised on the surface to provide a unique look into the often-misunderstood world of pop culture collectibles.

Unfortunately, despite some promise and a few clever elements, the show was too slowly paced to capture the viewer's interest. While the pilot episode contains some wit, and at least a few laugh out loud moments, for the most part it leaves you wondering if there was some over-arching point that you simply missed.

As the owners of Chimera's Comics in the southwest Chicago suburbs, we have experienced colorful characters, memorable customers, kind strangers, and bizarrely unnerving visitors. Our hope for Comic Book Men was that it might present a novel look into the people that make up a comic book store community.

But the show lacks any relatable cast members. In fact, the most entertaining character on the show was a man named Bryan Johnson, a customer who spends all of his free time at the Secret Stash, despite not actually being employed there. His antics, including smashing collectible plates at a flea market in order to win a contest, were the most entertaining part of the show.

But herein lies the problem. Most of these characters are largely unlikable, with the limited entertainment value coming from their immature conduct. The sort of playful sarcasm and witty banter one would hope for out of such a show instead rests entirely on a mean-spirited attitude, often directed at Ming Chen, the meek and tech-savvy employee no one seems to like.
Many of the jokes, especially those from our friend Mr. Johnson, seem to berate and belittle the people the cast interacts with, especially attendees at the flea market. It boggles the mind to listen to insults from a man who looks like Santa Claus' evil twin. This is exactly the sort of conduct that pigeonholes the ilk of comic book stores as generally un-datable and unsociable.
The show had some redeeming qualities that will hopefully be fleshed out in future installments. Specifically, scenes in which customers bring rare collectibles to the staff provide some great educational opportunities about the nature and value of collectibles. One customer, for example, had original artwork by Bob Kane, the creator of Batman. Hearing the analysis of the work and learning about its appraisal was a highlight of the episode. In fact, the show does do a good job of impressing on viewers the uniqueness of such an item by filling in some of the missing pieces with pop-up trivia.

Still, the show gives the impression that this is all that happens in comic book stores -- one character even remarked, "Does anyone ever come here to buy anything?" In this way, the show misses the mark at capturing the personality of this medium.

Even more off-putting are the negotiations that take place between the show's cast and the people trying to sell their collectibles. For someone not versed in the market of comic book and specialty collectibles, these scenes are intimidating, focusing more on getting a deal than on education.

The collectibles spur some interesting discussions during the podcast segments, particularly when discussing comic book history and its impact on pop culture. One collector presents the staff with a rare Batman comic from the 1940s featuring a hypodermic needle on the cover, an image that would never have seen print after the mass censure of comics in the fifties and sixties. This leads to a discussion of drugs in the medium, and of the ground-breaking series "Green Lantern/Green Arrow" which tried to address such social concerns in a meaningful way. But the staff tables all these discussion after only a few minutes.

If Comic Book Men is going to be worth following, future installments would benefit from exploring these discussions further. The show would also benefit from grounding such discussions in the people and personalities that make up the store, its clientele, and the comic book industry. Our owning a store may have biased our opinion, but with all the stories we have experienced first-hand, it seemed like there was plenty of material for Smith's show to draw on. Instead, the show just left us flat despite its potential.

 
 
 
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01:24 AM on 02/28/2012
I couldn't have said it better. I was sorely not only was I disappointed at the entertainment value, but I found myself disliking all the characters, and was mostly put off by their junior high school locker room sense of humor, and every time something or someone interesting came on or up, they seemed to glaze over it as if what we want to see are a bunch of fat middle aged men who never matured past 14 year old boys. I watched it twice and won't watch it again. They could learn a lot by watching Pawn Stars, and try to get some at least a couple of lovable characters in there.
01:44 AM on 02/27/2012
Yeah, they should have done a better job explaining who Bryan Johnson is, that he wrote and directed Vulgar and was the inspiration for the character Randal from Clerks, et cetera. It was still very funny though and looks to only get better as the show goes on.
12:00 PM on 02/18/2012
Brian is a man the heavily influenced smith.I think the show was made for fans of Kevin Smith. He has a core fan base and he plays 2 that base cause he dose well with it.He has tried to play 2 "other " people and it dose not work. Brian was Randal in clerks. I mean thats who the "real" Randal is.
07:21 PM on 02/14/2012
The numbers for the show are in 2.4 million watched , I would think that is Great for any cable show I'm going to watch it, but I think you have to follow the fine line between Geekdom and those of us who Breathe, eat and Crap Pop Culture and those who have no clue and are looking for entertainment, the interaction between employees (between themselves and customers) is critical to the overall entertainment to the general public (not just us geeks) , I do feel that when a Comic Book Store does a review about a show about someone else's comic book store there has to be a lot of jealousy on their part (the owners of Chimera's Comics) for not coming up with this idea or having the resources to even attept it (the production qualities are huge) so why are we even listening Chimera's Comics? (who have made themselves irrelevant simply by stating they own a store)
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02:44 PM on 02/14/2012
I liked the show, and I hope they include female fan/geeks (yes they exist) in future episodes.
05:23 AM on 02/14/2012
for a show to be enjoyable, it shouldn't have to ask its viewers to do research on who is what and why. Regardless of who Brian Johnson really is, i.e. a former owner or a hanger-on or a scrub, who cares? He was obnoxious and he strictly enforced the streotype of the anti-social behavior of people workiing in comic book stores. For a show that is supposed to enlighten non-comics fans about how cool and educational reading comics can be, the show is actually scaring them into avoiding comic book stores because there is a scraffy bearded guy who will drag you into the basement and sodomize you.
03:38 AM on 02/14/2012
I do not agree with your "I thought this was going to be the way I wanted it(pout)" review. Maybe watching the show with an open mind could have helped you understand that this show was not what you had already preconceived. And to be honest, I don't think they had a comic book stores owners as this show's core demographic, since there is so many of you guys. Also, did you expect them to tackle every aspect of what it means to work in a comic book store in the first episode. In forty plus minutes I think they gave a good idea of what this show can be. But, you have already made your minds about this show, and it's too bad that some random person looking for a review will find yours and think that it might leave them on a flat note.
12:50 PM on 02/13/2012
Hard to believe that more than a dozen people anywhere would watch this (other than the family and friends of the cast maybe). Really terrible! And they were definitely ripping off the riffs and faux banter of the Pawn Stars people. Better cash those AMC checks fast. Were it not for the cushy lead-in, this show would be gone already.
11:39 AM on 02/13/2012
There's a web television comedy called the Variants set inside a comic shop that's finished 2 seasons online. For all of the criticism leveled at Comic Book Men, I think it would be worth checking out this gem of of a show. Its even had a few comic celebs guest-star on the show like Mark Waid, Ben Templesmith, Scott Kurtz of PVPonline and others.

http://www.thevariants.com/
09:40 AM on 02/13/2012
Well I agree with Steven Brown. The first thing the guys sit down to talk about? Hottest comic babes. ... Isn't ANYONE tired of comic book geeks (or geeks in general) being seen as a bunch of pasty white dudes who spend all their time drooling over fictional women, picking on their token Asian friend, and belittling anyone who isn't "cool" enough to have crammed that much pop culture knowledge in their head. Most of the comic shops I frequent have a far more diverse clientele and many have a more diverse group of employees and the last time I checked? Plenty of them are run by people who are fully capable adults. Fun adults sure, but decent human beings who treat others with respect.

Yeah, I know Kevin Smith fan boys are going to scream that someone is insulting something done by their hero but guess what? This show is making geeks in general look worse, enforcing a fictional straight, white, male stereotype, and telling everyone who ISN'T already a geek what losers we actually are.
04:00 AM on 02/14/2012
So if I sum up what you wrote, this show isn't for you and you felt a bit shook up by some of these white straight male's behavior. I don't think Walt, Mike and Bryan are the boogeyman you make them to be. I swear, today, everyone is so up tight. Every joke or comment needs to be filtered through a sensor because it might upset a few persons.
02:33 PM on 02/16/2012
The only 'sensor' that seems to be doing the 'filtering' is you, chump-change Pitman. So the girl has an opinion, and you have to call her 'up tight' because you don’t like her comments. Kevin smith specifically stated that he wanted to make the show to let people know that the people in comic book stores are not what most people stereo type them out to be *** AND HE IS OBVIOUSLY CONTRADICTING HIMSELF -as Jenna astutely points out. She is right. The Eisner Award winning comic book shop Vault of Midnight is nothing like Kevin Smiths 'stuck in the Cold War era' type 20th century crap his shop mainly pulls. The people at Vault of Midnight even have frequent comic book genre and history presentations at their local library. It feels like part pop culture museum and other part coolness -mainly thanks to its staff. Kevin Smith needs to take a couple of his shows episodes visiting Eisner Award winning stores, then reboot his staff and avoid the comics shop loiterer they hired (who like breaking plates at flea markets) -and rid his store of all that clutter... You would think Kevin Smith could have a larger space for his comic book store. Even the music that is played at Vault of Midnight is great to listen to as you become inspired by their shop. INSPIRING is one of the last words that come to mind when I think of Comic Book Men.
02:34 PM on 02/16/2012
She is right -as I am a pasty white dude with a brain chock full o' sequential story telling knowledge. By the way women are the number one CONSUMERS -AMC had a great opportunity to create and expand on a market, but like DC and Marvel (90% of the US market) they CHOKED. It’s not that we are 'up tight' -ITS THAT WE ARE ALL SICK OF THE 20th CENTURY and its ever regurgitated predictable stories, and designs and art and then charging us $4.50 for a comic book...! WTF?
07:23 AM on 02/13/2012
I was interested in this show until I saw it was on for an hour. I was pretty sure there just isn't enough there to hold my attention for 60 minutes. It needs a little conflict, a whacky customer and an interesting collectable and roll credits.
01:21 AM on 02/13/2012
Walt flanagan’s $10,000 estimate of that Bob Kane sketch is a little off…

Here is one just like it for $550:

http://www.autographsmovieposters.com/Kane_Batman_Robin_sketch.htm
12:58 AM on 02/13/2012
sounds like listening to a couple of the tell 'em, steve dave podcasts might help you to better understand how these people interact.
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01:54 PM on 02/13/2012
Reason why it's $30? Not certified.

Autographs aren't worth a damned thing unless they are certified. You could have Jack Kirby, Stan Lee, and the whole Royal Family autograph a comic but it won't be worth anything unless the signatures are verified/certified.
11:37 PM on 02/12/2012
Sour grapes.
06:23 PM on 02/13/2012
i would have to agree with you... sounds like the writers of this 'opinion' based article had already decided on which opionion they were going to have before they even saw the show. and you know why they didn't break the comic book sellers/customers steriotype?? because they can't! Comic shop owners and customers of said stores ARE typically filthy nerds! (yes, authors of this story, even YOU).
yes, keven smith likes dick jokes.... go watch ANY of his movies (even the tame Jersey Girl) and there will be a dick joke. the final 10 mins of Hollywood Babbleon (one of the many podcasts keven does) is centered around discussing how large Liam Neasons 'willy' is.
if you don't like dirty, geeky humor then there is no way you'll get close to liking the show.
01:38 AM on 02/28/2012
I'll tell that to my 10 year old who was excited when he saw the preview to the show as he likes me to take him to comic book stores here in California. I was deciding if I should have him not watch it anymore after the vulgar banter that opened the show, but then I didn't have to when he asked me if I minded watching the show alone because he realized he'd rather read comics than listen to these "Old Guys" talk about "Other Stuff".