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Posted: December 27, 2009 08:53 PM

Khamenei is the New Shah: There Will Be (More) Blood

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Ayatollah Khamenei's legitimacy as Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran is at a very fragile moment and being challenged by Iranian citizens throughout the nation, according to reports streaming in, despite media controls and a Western press blackout.

To see a very disturbing video in which men who were going to be hanged appeared to be saved by citizens in the streets, watch this clip.

Reform presidential candidate Mir Hossen Mousavi's nephew was killed today in clashes with police. There is no easy way now for the opposition to back down and wait for a more appropriate time to move their advocates and followers into the street.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has become the new Shah -- hated by so many within the country that it seems implausible that Iranian elites will ever be able to operate without much distrust and fear of each other.

The United States needs to be very cautious -- and not do anything on the ground in Iran that would allow the incumbent government to to evade "the death to the dictator" chants directed at it by distracting the country with evidence of credible external interventions.

This phase in Iran's next revolution could subside again before an even larger explosion by embedded protesters. It's just too hard to tell at this moment.

But as Iran expert Barbara Slavin just wrote to me, things don't look good for Khamenei and his government. She wrote to me via Facebook: "[Khamenei] is stuck. If he begins to compromise, he's lost -- and if he doesn't, he's lost."

-- Steve Clemons publishes the popular political blog, The Washington Note. You can follow Clemons' writing and work here via twitter.


UPDATE: This video shows that the protesters are trying to win over the police. This is a fascinating clip of police and protesters on the edge -- but trying not to go over what would be potentially horrible lines:

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Ayatollah Khamenei's legitimacy as Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran is at a very fragile moment and being challenged by Iranian citizens throughout the nation, according to reports str...
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04:29 AM on 12/29/2009
Whatever happened to minding our own business?

If you care about people in Teheran, then focus some of
that charity on Detroit, for example. Our country is falling
to bits and here we are telling other people to "do it" our
way. Steve Clemons needs rescue from Gilligan's Island!

Iran isn't threatening, they're laughing at us!
12:10 AM on 12/29/2009
I pray no Iranian Robespierre appears, ready to unleash the Terror on citizens and neighbors.
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amacd
07:25 PM on 12/28/2009
Iran is less developed --- it has not yet learned how to control its people with the facade of a two-party 'Vichy' government (and media) to better hide its authoritarian impulse.

Iran apparently also does not have WWF, NASCAR, & TV reality shows to more politely distract their citizens from mass protests.

The ruling-elite Empire here could give some of their more advanced "Brave New World" style 'soft power' PR and control techniques to Ahmadinejad and Iran, so that they would have less need to use the older, Orwellian “1984”, 'hard power' techniques.

After all, it’s been almost four decades since Kent State and Black Panther control techniques have had to be used on the now-complacent and "Quiet American" populace.

However, all real Americans left, empathize with the average working-class Iranians and we hope that your fight against the old-style visible elitist Empire in your own country is as successful as our ancestors’ was against the foreign, ‘red coat’ old-style British Empire that we overthrew.

Many people in many countries have overcome domestic dictators, and even visible foreign empires, and you will succeed independently, driven by your own frustration, courage, honesty, and solidarity.

The best we American people can do currently is to try to keep this damn disguised Global Empire from mucking you up. Please have similar empathy as we try to overcome the more guileful Global corporatist Empire that currently has our country (and others) by the throat.

Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
05:31 PM on 12/28/2009
As Marx said, no revolution will succeed without the support of the middle class. This certainly seems to have the support of the middle class.
06:19 PM on 12/28/2009
Marx noted that history repeats itself, first as tragedy then as farce. But the Iranians didn't know that apparently and got it backwards. The uprising in 1953 was a farce while the 1979 revolution was a tragedy. Hopefully they can repeat it a third time in 2010 and get it right. Long live a free Iran.
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SPQR1775
05:11 PM on 12/28/2009
IRAN WILL FALL B4 THE SUMMER OF 2010. THE US NEEDS TO STAY OUT OF IT
04:38 PM on 12/28/2009
This is stunning. We must help these people any way we can.
04:27 PM on 12/28/2009
Cogent analysis from Juan Cole who's been on top of events in Iran for the last 6 months:

http://www.juancole.com/2009/12/iran-roiled-crowds-burn-banks-police.html

The chanting on Sunday turned against Ayatollah Ali Khamenei himself, not just against President Ahmadinejad. He was castigated as the Dictator and as worse than the old shah, and the very ideological basis of the regime, the doctrine of clerical rule, was chanted against in the streets. The legitimacy of the regime, profoundly shaken by the events since early June's presidential election, is now being shredded further.
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Richard Pearce
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05:26 PM on 12/28/2009
And though the attacks on religion playing a role in government plays well in the US, inside Iran, its a fringe idea (much like the idea of 'socialised medicine' and a 'welfare state' would play well in Europe, but be a fringe idea in the US). Add in that there are still people in Iran who remember life under the Shah (where an attempt to protest like this would have resulted in tanks rolling down the street, and Mousavi would have been tortured for even trying to run for election), and it becomes clear that what he sees, and what the Iranian people see, are two seperate things. He sees the protesters saying things that should gain them wide support. Iranians see them as the radical fringe, which would be ignored, if they weren't disrupting peoples lives. A few days of this, and Ahmadinejad will be losing popularity if he doesn't clear the streets, and getting a lot of mainstream support if he does.
06:00 PM on 12/28/2009
Don't conflate 'clerical rule' with the clergy itself. THe concept of the theocratic rule has taken what hopefully will prove to be a fatal hit. Never has it been so profoundly questioned in the streets since the '79 days. Senior clerics and others in Qom grow weary of the system. Montazeri didn't live to see its end, but may his death be a catalyst for the end of it.
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JaxReader
Charity is no substitute for justice withheld.
05:27 PM on 12/30/2009
The only reason you have not yet seen the tanks rolling down the streets is because the IRI realizes that the more escalation exists, the worse the opposition may get, and gain popularity. (Hence stealing the bodies of those they murdered)

They were predicted to be compared to the Shah if repression of the protests by brutal force continued, and they have. They didn't completely crush everything at the beginning for fear of lending the comparison legitimacy, and were hoping to finagle their way out of another stolen election. However what they did was more than enough. Now they are in a Catch 22 and don't know which way to go. More oppressive crackdowns? Progresses the issue broadens base for the opposition. Less oppressive crackdowns? More people will take to the streets and protest. They are on their way out.
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chlai88
Change is the only constant
04:03 PM on 12/28/2009
The way out for Khamenei is to successfully contain the present violence & then compromise with the opposition. He has already lost previously by painting himself into a corner. Using force against force is an all-lose outcome for Iran and will result in more civil chaos and he & his protege's downfall will not be pretty.
03:08 PM on 12/28/2009
Brave people.
02:56 PM on 12/28/2009
Ugh wrong thread. Sorry all...
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lightningbolt
02:41 PM on 12/28/2009
The harder the dictatorship cracks down on the protesters, the harder the protesters will fight. The Iranian dictatorship is nearing its end and the only thing that can save it is war, which is precisely why they are trying to provoke other nations.
02:29 PM on 12/28/2009
Iran is freeing herself inexorably and may God bless her people. I only hope we can follow their good example and depose our corporate masters and elect our leaders in a fair way not involving huge piles of dirty money for whomever is willing to vote against the people's best interests.
02:28 PM on 12/28/2009
"But as Iran expert Barbara Slavin just wrote to me, things don't look good for Khamenei and his government. She wrote to me via Facebook: "[Khamenei] is stuck. If he begins to compromise, he's lost -- and if he doesn't, he's lost.">>

Barbara Slavin and other Iran pundits are gradually seeing it as it is. Iran opposition leader, Massoud Rajavi, said a few years back that Khamenei faced a lethal decision: Suicide or Death. Back down and commit suicide or don't back down and fall at Iranian people's hands. We should listen more closely.
01:52 PM on 12/28/2009
Revolution may be imminent, but the costs will be high if the protesters face the military. Tiananmen Square comes to mind.
02:42 PM on 12/28/2009
The Shah had lots of guns too for all the good they did him. Like all bullies they look tough until somebody with justice on their side stands up and pushes back and then their strength melts away.

Granted there will be some violence but even many of the authorities in Iran know the hard liner Ayatollahs are wrong and don't support them. As soon as the tipping point is reached I hope for peaceful resolution and transition.
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andyboy
Little bit Country, little Chicago Blues
01:00 PM on 12/28/2009
It's going to be hard to overcome the will of the military. The protesters need to get some weapons and start a full scale revolution. In other words get organized.
01:28 PM on 12/28/2009
this will be solved without large scale violence. Just talked to a friend in Tehran. Most police, and between a third and half of the basij are on the protesters side, at least in the capital.