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Will Romney Squash GOP Anti-Gay Bigotry?

Posted: 04/21/2012 3:41 pm

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Right wing, and anti-gay provocateur Bryan Fischer, Director of Issue Analysis for Government and Public Policy at the American Family Association, wrote in early 2011 that Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee were just carrying too much baggage to win the GOP nomination and run for the presidency in 2012.

So, he said a second tier of candidates would probably break through -- listing "Tim Pawlenty, Mitch Daniels, Haley Barbour, John Thune, John Bolton, Mike Pence, and a possible "dark horse" (his term, not mine), Herman Cain."

Ultimately, Fischer said that in the end it would be a hard choice between Herman Cain and Mike Pence. He never gave a thought to Rick Santorum. And as we now know, Mitt Romney is the presumptive nominee -- though Newt Gingrich hasn't tucked it in yet.

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About John Bolton, Fischer wrote in January 2011:

John Bolton belongs in the next conservative administration, but not as president. He will be needed in the areas of national security and intelligence, and is a pretty smart fella when it comes to all that. But most of the American people have no idea who he is, and nobody knows where he stands on almost the entire range of domestic issues.

Perhaps Fischer just wasn't tuned in when John Bolton made clear in September 2010 that he "could live with" gay marriage -- and said this on Don't Ask Don't Tell:

"I don't think there is any good answer to the question why shouldn't gays and lesbians who want to serve their country be allowed to do it."

I have significant differences with John Bolton's international affairs views but I give him great credit for not being the kind of bizarre cookie cutter hard right zealot that Bryan Fischer is. Bolton has not only supported the rights agenda of gay and lesbian Americans, he has been a great boss and mentor to a number of gay people -- including the very capable and doggedly results-focused Richard "Ric" Grenell who served Bolton as spokesman during Bolton's tenure as a recess-appointed Ambassador at the United Nations; his long-time aide in many incarnations Mark Groombridge; and others.

Bolton gets my respect for this -- and I have little patience for those who disparage the competency or qualifications of anyone based on any other issue than merit.

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Bryan Fischer's anti-gay bigotry, coughed up of late on Romney for hiring Richard Grenell deserves widespread repudiation and scorn by sensible folks on the right and left. Fischer tweeted yesterday:
Romney picks out & loud gay as a spokesman. If personnel is policy, his message to the pro-family community: drop dead

Fischer didn't say the same about John Bolton who was already quite "out" about his support of gay Americans -- and if Fischer scooted through his roster of Republican possibilities, he'd see that nearly all of them had high level, plugged-in, highly competent gay and lesbian staff.

It's Fischer who is the odd man out in American politics; probably irritated that Mitt Romney punched through Fischer's incorrect political analysis of last year. One hopes that Romney stands strong -- and stand by the competence and capacity of people like Grenell -- and that we spend our time battling each other over issues that really matter to the nation.

I have many differences with Romney, as well as Obama -- but today, Romney gets a salute from me for hiring Grenell.

Steve Clemons is Washington Editor at Large at The Atlantic. Clemons can be followed on Twitter at @SCClemons

 

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drjay79
12:21 PM on 04/23/2012
Romney, as president, will nominate the most anti-gay person he can find for the Supreme Court to stop gay marriage.
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twjones
10:56 AM on 04/23/2012
If they do their job well then what does their personal life have to do with it. Wish politicians could just do their jobs and these issues would never be there to begin with. Keep personal issues out of political ones and let people live their lives as free as we are meant to be. If this were a religious issue then there would be room for debate. This is why our founders wanted religion kept out of government. So they can not control the beliefs of others. I believe in God and personally believe in one man with one woman. But that is for me and my religious beliefs not for the government to be in charge of.
10:04 AM on 04/23/2012
One cannot possibly believe that Romney holds any deeply held convictions about anything other than the acquisition of money. He clearly lacks compassion and appears to feel the LBGT community should go away. Remember he is a Mormon Bishop and they have a very clear record on this.
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kathy smelser
11:28 AM on 04/23/2012
he is only doing this to get votes ....once in office he will throw him to the lions
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ClintBMD
Now where did I leave that Micro-bio again?
07:01 AM on 04/23/2012
I agree with your assessment of Fischer, especially with respect to his protestations over gays juxtaposed with his support of Bolton. But to me, your argument seems short-sighted. Grenell is a loathsome man, filled with his own hate. He is utterly dislikeable. I don't see how employing anyone like that helps the LGBT cause. If anything, it reinforces the stereotype that gay men are snotty and judgmental, whether politically aligned on the left or the right.

It's not a victory for LGBT acceptance. It merely reflects changing times. And that isn't bad, but not worthy of celebration.
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DantesE
08:56 PM on 04/22/2012
Sir this post as far as I am concerned is the epitome of the very bigotry you claim to despise. At this time your stellar "gay representative" is busy trying to scrub twitter pots on on line writings of his most offensive posts.
This is so typical of "conservative" thinking and ideology. Don't look at the whole person just look at the part of them that we can use to try to convince some group we have maligned and mistreated for years that we really really like them.
This is how you end up with Clarence Thomas, Allen West, Sarah Palin, Marco Rubio, and now this guy.
Hint this does not work and if it has not for long.
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Cynn Chadwick
07:00 AM on 04/23/2012
I agree. Personally, as a lesbian, I find it confounding that any woman or gay person could support today's Republicans, never mind try to help get one elected.
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ObamaSupporterPete
05:34 PM on 04/22/2012
I would imagine that should Mr. Grenell's appointment cause any heartburn, he will be ejected. Grenell's not necessarily the best representative of the Gay in the republican field. He's pretty much a putz.
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scorpions5
Facts do not cease to exist when ignored.
02:12 PM on 04/22/2012
Romney has signed the pledge which states he supports marriage between a man and woman. He also has come out and said he would introduce an amendment stating that marriage should only be between a man and a woman. This tells me that Romney is a universe away for equality for the LGBT community. Romney will stick with the religious right. Obama we know hasn't signed any kind of pledge, nor will he push for an amendment which will be detremental to the LGBT community.
10:11 PM on 04/22/2012
We have 10,000 years of history of mankind's cultures. We have 7 billion people now, living in over 190 countries.

Now in all that time, in all that space, where has gay marriage been part of that culture?

OK, you want gay marriage, I'm not saying you should give up. But recognize the uphill battle. The religious right, Romney, Obama, or anybody, is not "radical" or "evil" for thinking men marrying men or women marrying men is just wierd. If you want same sex marriage, fine, but realize YOU are the fringe, you are the radical, and approach the rest of the world with that perspective.
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ClintBMD
Now where did I leave that Micro-bio again?
07:06 AM on 04/23/2012
Gay marriages go back at least as far as the Egyptian empire. Frescoes in at least one tomb depict the lives of two gay men who either were married or lived openly as a couple. Church records from the Middle Ages document ceremonies for gay couples. At least one Roman emperor (Hadrian) was madly in love with a man, and Alexander the Great - while taking a wife late in his life to produce an heir - stayed with his lover from his teen years to his death.

You speak of 10,000 years of history. You should try reading some of it once in a while. Or maybe you should just sue your school board for its abject failure.
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scorpions5
Facts do not cease to exist when ignored.
08:57 AM on 04/23/2012
Try doing some reading on ancient history. Gays were more accepted during Roman times and Egyptian cutlures than they are now. They had ceremonies and were married. What is radical is the fact those cutlures were NOT bigoted until man made religion came into being, which began a culture of radical beliefs, prejudice, and bigotry all in the name of a loving God. People can think what they want, they don't have to approve or like it, but when they start to deny rights to others because they just don't agree with it, then THAT is WRONG. And more and more people that believe in equal rights for all, which is what a true American is, are standing beside the LGBT community everyday and fighting for their equal rights. NO ONE should be denied what others have. NO ONE! And our country is way behind other countries when it comes to equality for gays. They laugh at us in other countries because we say we are a country of liberties and freedoms, but yet we deny some of our citizens rights that straights have.
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VA Jill
I'm not perfect and neither are you
01:44 PM on 04/22/2012
No, Romney will roll over and do anything he thinks will ingratiate him with the GOTP. He's a hollow man.
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SteveMD2
06:40 PM on 04/22/2012
Hes a Mormon, the people who provided the majority of the money re Prop Hate in CA

The people who believe you need 3 wives to go to heaven.

Duh - wonder what he's got going on the side - girls or boys?
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philhellene
Far Left and Proud of It!
11:49 AM on 04/22/2012
"Will Romney Squash GOP Anti-Gay Bigotry?"

No. The right needs its proverbial boogeyman to scare enough people so as to win elections. For decades it was "godless communism". Now it is social minorities (however you want to define them). The only problem for the right is how to disguise this blatant bigotry (usually done by code words or catch phrases) so as to win over the naive and the unthinking muddle-headed political middle.
10:16 PM on 04/22/2012
I'm thinking of a trip, where a man can marry a man and not be laughed at, denied, or stoned to death.


Hmmmm. Africa? No. Perhaps Asia. No. The Mideast? Absolutely not.

I guess that trip has to be to New York or Holland. But let's pretend that the whole world is evil and insane, and only American gay activists have any sense and morality. All others are bigots, naive, or unthinking.

Gee, being so superior probably feels better than being married.
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FlamingLibrul
11:35 AM on 04/22/2012
Combing through a plethora of bigotry, trying to find a silver lining, is just sad. The right wing has nothing to offer the LGBT community. It has simply not evolved to the point of offering anything but random platitudes from people not actually driving policy. When the policy makers start changing the conservative agenda, THAT will be something for Log Cabin-types to get excited about. For now, anti-gay bigotry is still part of the GOTP platform, and pretending otherwise is a sad agenda in itself.
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SteveMD2
06:46 PM on 04/22/2012
the right wing doesnt evolve - it believes in creationism. they are still fighting the battles of the 1920s, because to change anything with their beliefs would open up the whole BS thing to question.

Ever wonder why we had a dark ages of zero social nd economic progress for a thousand years?

BTW the catholic church burned books on the human body during the middle ages. What greater way to keep their power then to pray away the illness .

BTW they also had a banned book list until 1954 (vatican II)

But re the issue if you've seen it of the vatican going after the nuns for supporting ending poverty and helping the ill, the vatican is now turning on the nuns, and has banned a book by a sr nun from all catholic schools etc.

Beware of the second murderous INquisition - trial by torture, punishment by burnings.

Time that RATZI's empiere in Rome be renamed FRANKENSTEIN S CASTLE.
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FlamingLibrul
07:08 PM on 04/22/2012
The attack on public education is the the most insidious way of ensuring future generations of dumb voters. Your belief system has to be incredibly narrow to support any conservative platform. And don't get me started on the Catholic campaign against reason. You are totally preaching to the choir there, also, too.
11:16 AM on 04/23/2012
F&F. One more self-loathing (and apparently misogynistic) gay man helping a party which actively works against us does not get any credit from me.
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FlamingLibrul
11:35 AM on 04/23/2012
You said it!!
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ninthraphael
i have my god! He/she doesn't look like yours!
09:26 AM on 04/22/2012
"looking from the deep end of the well, the elephant remarked that the sky is as big as the mouth of the well"...our ability to reason is always affected by the way we see things, and our ability to analyze will dictate our understanding of things.
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Bonnie Larkin
Oathkeeper AND NRA member
09:03 AM on 04/22/2012
I don't understand the reasoning behind liberals just assuming that everyone on the right is anti-gay - where do they get their figures / facts ?
The liberals also assume that we conservatives are anti-black / anti-hispanic / anti-women / heck the truth be told they probably think we are anti-walking upright [ that word does have ' right ' in it ]
Conservatives are just as diverse as any other group of people - the left thinks that we must all live or want to live in one corner of this country with one giant wall wrapped around us -
It is no wonder the far left comes-off as really being in left field, clueless and blind.
We [ on the right ] do not all agree about everything at the same time - we are not a lock-step block of people -
It would be better for all citizens of this country to realize the divide and conquer policies of the far left - that are willing to say and accuse anyone of/or anything just to divert from the problems that really face this country - and these problems are massive.
If the only way to get people to follow your policies is to lie and refuse to be tolerate of other peoples beliefs / positions concerning their own lives - then I suggest that the ideas that you purpose to be hiding an unacceptable agenda.
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kenhamlett
09:26 AM on 04/22/2012
I am a gay male who is also a liberal Democrat. The issue of equality for gays and lesbians is not, and should never be made, a political issue. It is an issue of fairness and justice, and it involves human rights, not political advantage. In past comments, I have pointed out that I know many conservatives and Republicans who support equality. But, of course, a comment like yours does more to verify that belief than any words that I write. It is important to remind people frequently that within organizations, ethnic groups, political parties, etc., there are always a range of opinions, not just one.

On that issue, we find agreement. But, I believe that your other comments are one-sided. In my opinion, there are people on both the left and right who "wear blinders" and/or people who try to use every issue to manipulate political opinions and outcomes and actually exacerbate the divisions between us that already exist. I feel certain that I could present as many examples on the right as you could on my end of the spectrum. The important thing that we all have to realize before it becomes too late is that if we continue our current brand of divisive and destructive politics, no lasting solutions can be found for the problems faced by the country. In that case, neither side will ultimately win anything -- and neither will our country.
10:21 PM on 04/22/2012
Well said. This is progress. It's an uphill climb to turn around 10,000 years of tradition, so it won't happen overnight. But the right way to approach it is with logic and reasoned argument as you've done. Demonizing who are relying on generations of parentage, law, and church to establish our current culture will get you nowhere.
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Maury66
Call on God, but row away from the rocks. HST
09:31 AM on 04/22/2012
The member got it right when saying she "doesn't understand". Perhaps the dimensions of that lack of understanding are beyond her comprehension. Nice job, though, of cramming conservative buzzwords and talking points into a nearly readable paragraph.
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NWBrunette
Blessed Girl
11:30 AM on 04/22/2012
:-)
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somewhatodd
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08:16 AM on 04/22/2012
according to your reasoning, the african american community would owe "a salute" to bush the 1st since he appointed clarence thomas to the supreme court.
06:38 PM on 04/22/2012
Bush the 1st didn't anyone a favor with the appointment of Clarance Thomas. Take a good hard look at the man's record and rethink your statement. Unless of course the salute your were referring to was a fist with a single finger raised.
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posie Di Sesa
07:33 AM on 04/22/2012
mitt got his instructions from his church which announced a policy change regarding the lgbt community.
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JustMeinNJ
11:37 PM on 04/21/2012
good grief. I am a Republican. most of my friends and family are Republican. We are not bigots. We don't care who you are, your race, your religion (or lack thereof), or who you love.
Really, move on. You pick a select group of people who don't support gay marriage (which includes a liberal president) - and assume an entire group shares identical beliefs.
05:50 PM on 04/22/2012
The problem with your argument is repbs keep electing people that don't believe the same as you. Just look at some of the laws repubs have passed in the states regurading gays , blacks and other minorties
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BigGayInc
08:08 PM on 04/22/2012
As a Republican I hope you and Republicans who feel as you make it known to your Reps. in the House and your Senators. And please take it a step further and let John Boehner know that you do not support his support of DOMA or spending millions of dollars of tax payer money to discriminate against GLBT tax paying Americans.