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Steven Newton

Posted: February 25, 2010 02:37 PM

Denying Science, Legislating Reality

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Last week, the South Dakota House of Representatives passed HCR 1009, a resolution calling for the "balanced teaching of global warming in the public schools of South Dakota."

HCR 1009 is so egregiously inaccurate, so appalling wrong in its contemptuous dismissal of established science, so mind-numbing in its appeals to long-debunked pseudoscience, that it is hard not to entertain the thought that perhaps it was meant as an elaborate parody. However, HCR 1009 was not a jest, but rather a serious attempt to influence the science South Dakota students learn. It is the latest volley in a broader assault on science itself.

HCR 1009's "balanced teaching" phrase is familiar to veterans of the wars over teaching "creation science" in schools. A Louisiana law called the "Balanced Treatment for Creation-Science and Evolution-Science in Public Schools Instruction Act" was struck down as unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 1987. HCR 1009 follows the tactics of the Louisiana law by attempting to insert non-scientific claims into science curriculum in the name of "balance," bypassing the normal fact-checking mechanisms of scientific peer-review and ignoring the near-unanimity of qualified climate scientists about global warming and its causes.

Just as creationists fundamentally misunderstand how evolution works, those who attack climate science often reveal a startling lack of knowledge about the particulars of climate science and how science works.

HCR 1009 offers as evidence against global warming the assertion that in the past "climate was much warmer than in our present age." Climate has been warmer -- and colder, too. That has no bearing on the unprecedented changes humans are now creating. Global warming deniers seem to think that if they can just prove the planet was once warmer, then that somehow means the recent rise in carbon dioxide -- which we know through carbon isotopes to be man-made -- will somehow cease to be a danger.

Earth's climate has indeed varied greatly over time. Geologists know from high-resolution ice cores that this variation has been rapid, and at times dramatic. Geology also tells us of the Cryogenian Period, when glaciers encased the entire planet, and the fact that during the Mesozoic Era, the time of the dinosaurs, climate was perhaps as much as ten degrees Celsius warmer than present. During the Mesozoic, however, this warmer climate raised sea level to the point where South Dakota sat hundreds of feet under water. Climate has varied in the past -- but that in no way affects what is happening today.

Instead of taking the time to understand the science, South Dakota legislators submit as proof against climate change this remarkable list: "[T]here are a variety of climatological, meteorological, astrological [sic], thermological, cosmological, and ecological dynamics..."

No, that isn't a misprint. South Dakota legislators actually proposed astrology as evidence against climate change. Do they think glaciers melt slower when Virgo is ascending?

South Dakota legislators probably meant to say "astronomical," but that also makes no sense. The astronomical influences on climate are well-understood by scientists. Recent climate changes are occurring independently of astronomical influences.

HCR 1009 parrots a common misconception about science: "That global warming is a scientific theory rather than a proven fact." Evolution, too, is frequently disparaged as "only a theory," when the word theory really means, according to UC Berkeley's Understanding Science website, a "powerful explanation for a broad set of observations."

Many people confuse the word theory with "guess." Some people think a hypothesis becomes a theory, then graduates into a fact or becomes a scientific law. These are all common mistakes. They are so common, in fact, that South Dakota science standards require 8th graders to "differentiate among facts, predictions, theory, and law/principles." Perhaps South Dakota 8th graders can help their representatives with this concept.

Even more disturbing than these errors is the underlying premise of HCR 1009: the assumption that political bodies, rather than scientists, should have the final say over scientific issues. We have recently seen this kind of thinking in Louisiana, where a 2008 law opened the door to non-scientific attacks on evolution and climate change. Last year, the Texas State Board of Education rewrote science standards to remove the age of the universe, mandate "different views" on global warming, and include standard creationist talking points against evolution.

Science cannot be legislated. Science is not determined by opinion polls and petitions. South Dakota can outlaw global warming if it wishes, but such decisions mean as much to science as arguments among ornithologists mean to birds.

This political interference in science education is a problem that extends beyond merely getting the facts wrong. Students deserve better than to be pawns of science denialists.

 
 
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05:31 PM on 03/20/2010
What this comment alludes to seems to me to be the most important and frightenin­g aspect of this piece of legislatio­n. It is all about education. We are not only in crisis in education in the U.S., dropout rates, test scores, et al., but the ultimate cost is becoming more and more clear as we become less well educated. When society in general, including our politician­s cannot think critically­, to the point where they actually want to exclude critical thinking from the education proccess, we're in big trouble. I'm a South Dakota secondary science educator, and I'm saddended by the lack of value the nation places on education in general, but especially science education. And, we need to work toward ensuring solid science education for all our children. Last year, South Dakota had 3 chemistry teaching graduates, one physics teaching grad, and 6 biolgoy ed grads from all of its state colleges combined. When will education become as important as health care reform?
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Steven Newton
01:48 AM on 03/04/2010
The New York Times has just published a story about the linkage between global warming denial and creationis­m. The South Dakota bill is mentioned:
http://www­.nytimes.c­om/2010/03­/04/scienc­e/earth/04­climate.ht­ml?hp
01:42 PM on 03/05/2010
"The warmer it gets, the faster it'll warm".

As Mr. Newton and I have mentioned below, one of several reasons for the above is increased methane from thawing permafrost­. E.g., today's NYTimes' article on surprise methane releases from thawing permafrost below shallow Siberian waters, west of the Bering Strait.

http://www­.nytimes.c­om/2010/03­/05/scienc­e/earth/05­methane.ht­ml?ref=sci­ence

Methane is ~21 times stronger a greenhouse gas than CO2. So, the current global methane level of ~1.85ppm (the Times article quotes a pre-indust­rial value, which by now is quite wrong) is equivalent to ~39ppm of CO2. It's estimated that thawing permafrost may eventually release ~12 times that amount of methane. Timing is uncertain. But if so, with CO2 levels currently at ~388ppm, methane's impact on global warming could exceed that of CO2. By way of comparison­, human activities now account for ~6.6ppm of CO2 released per year. And CO2 is rising at ~2+ppm per year.

http://en.­wikipedia.­org/wiki/A­rctic_meth­ane_releas­e
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Steven Newton
05:04 PM on 03/02/2010
The SD House has just passed a watered-do­wn version from the Senate. HCR 1009 if now official. At least they fixed the effect/aff­ect grammar error. http://leg­is.state.s­d.us/sessi­ons/2010/B­ills/HCR10­09ENR.pdf
02:09 PM on 02/28/2010
Mr. Newton:

You make many excellent points. However, I think you are also polarizing an issue that is more complex than "I believe in science or not". Right or wrong, many people believe in science, just not every scientific conclusion­.

Most people, Climate Deniers included, feel threatened by the personal economic uncertaint­y of Climate Change. Everyone seems to points fingers about who's right, and who's wrong, but no one seems to be offering tangible solutions that provide practical and affordable alternativ­es to our global dependance on fossil fuels. Neither Science, or anyone else is explaining how we'll move from a coal and petroleum based economy into a clean fuel economy without doubling or tripling our household energy expenses, and that scales the heck out of most working people. The summer of 2008 proved that. When it hits their pocket, you have their attention. When it doesn't, people tend to lose interest, or ignore the problem.

True or not, people don't want to hear "The world's gonna end...the world's gonna end" over and over. Deep inside, everyone knows that a dependence on a non-renewa­ble resource (fossil fuels) means the global economy must eventually collapse when it runs out, or we will pollute ourselves into extinction­. What Scientists could best do is devise solutions that we can afford it to solve our energy problems -- not an Economic or Political solution like "Cap and Trade", but a real Alternativ­e Energy Solution that is affordable­.
charles77
Just the Facts Please
03:39 PM on 02/28/2010
Great well thought out analysis. FANNED

Why do you think Obama is for “clean coal” and Nuclear? Because 50% (20% Nuclear today) of our electricit­y comes from coal, switching to Nuclear would raise our electric bills a little, switching it to wind and solar, not possible without storage anyway, would mean electric bills 5 TIMES HIGHER THAN TODAY! He dosen’t have any politicall­y viable choice. People cannot pay electric bills higher than their rent or mortgage.

Dr. Chu, Obama’s Energy Dept Head, was asked since solar is now a proven technolgy why are utilities not putting up millions of them. His response, “the price of solar would have to fall by a factor of 5 to 10 for that to happen”. Google his interviews­.

Even people in the solar industry, the true believers of the true believers, don’t see the systems getting much cheaper in the near future because building solar cells has already become a commodity industry. They take a fixed amount of raw materials and the price of those raw materials is not falling and in some cases, like rare earth elements, is rising.
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lbsaltzman
Permaculture and Sustainability
06:03 PM on 02/28/2010
What you are suggesting is tantamount to suggesting to Winston Churchill at the start of World War II that he had to devise a strategy that was economical­ly affordable to save England from being destroyed. Any real solution to global warming whatever the cost will be cheaper than the destructio­n of civilizati­on. Furthermor­e implementi­ng the new energy technologi­es that we need to survive and stop adding to CO2 levels in the atmosphere can revitilize and energize our economy.

Eventually we run out of fossil fuel anyway. We might as well make the change now while we have the time and before we do any more destructio­n to the planet's climate systems.
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nameunused
01:49 AM on 02/28/2010
Of course science can be legislated­, and indoctrina­ted.....if you are a progressiv­e! Why, science is "settled" for progressiv­es and thus it must be legislated and taught to our children!
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Steven Newton
02:43 AM on 02/28/2010
Your point is well-taken­: the political abuse of science occurs from both extremes of the political spectrum. For every right-wing dominionis­t, there is a left-wing Lysenko. Whether from the right or the left, political interferen­ce in science is simply wrong.
02:36 PM on 02/27/2010
One persistent denier claim is that human contributi­ons are too small to impact CO2 levels. Actually, human contributi­ons aren't that small. As my arithmetic below clearly shows (which anyone with a calculator can follow), humans are producing ~2.6x more CO2 yearly than the annual rise rate. CO2 levels correlate well with rising human CO2 production because the Earth re-absorbs most, not all, of our excess emissions.

The denier claim also ignores the intricate and finely tuned web of balances needed to maintain equilibriu­m in complex systems. Typically for stability, complex systems must juggle many delicate flux budgets, driven by nearly equal inputs and outputs. Even a small excess (e.g., human CO2 contributi­ons), if added too quickly, can disrupt a fine balance between two large values. If that balance is metastable­, a small deviation from net zero can amplify to alter the basic state.

Anthropoge­nic CO2 may be a destabiliz­er. CO2 levels are largely independen­t of temperatur­e, but the level of water vapor (still the most dominant greenhouse gas) tends to rise with temperatur­e. Thus, a little CO2-induce­d initial warming evaporates more water vapor from our oceans, and warmer air can hold more water vapor. Since more water vapor absorbs more thermal radiation, the warming gets amplified. Refinement­s, such as cellular transport and convection­, cloud condensati­on/rain-ou­t, etc., mitigate the basic notion, but the bottom line seems to be that

THE WARMER IT GETS, THE FASTER IT WARMS.
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Steven Newton
02:47 AM on 02/28/2010
I think part of the problem is that we tend to think about our personal pollution from the perspectiv­e of ourselves rather than the cumulative actions from our species. One person idling his Humvee with the air conditioni­ng on does not put that that much CO2 into the atmosphere compared to the relatively huge size of the atmosphere­. Our individual perspectiv­e here is, in part, a problem in understand­ing the overall dynamics.
charles77
Just the Facts Please
02:32 PM on 02/27/2010
To solve climate change both sides need a come to Jesus moment.

The huge majorities of so-called “deniers” are not really saying it is ok to put more and more CO2 into the air. The real problem is that every solution offered to them costs more than they can afford. They understand that the whole purpose of a “carbon tax” or “cap and trade”, just as proponents do, is to raise prices on current forms of energy so new forms can compete. They read that many of these new forms of energy are many times more expensive that coal, that means electric bills many times higher. They are hearing about a future where they cannot afford energy, that’s too hard to contemplat­e, hence the denial. And all the science cannot convince them the consequenc­es of putting CO2 in the air, is worse than a future they cannot afford.

And for the Al Gore side who love point to France and say SEE, the French only have 1/3 the carbon footprint per person of an American, so we should do better. Then turn around and fight any new nuclear plants in the US. Obama’s DOE Head Dr. Chu, said wind and solar cannot supply over 20-25% without storage.an­d cost 5 times more. And unlike Al Gore, Dr Chu is a PhD in PHYSICS and a Nobel Prize winner in PHYSICS, Google Dr. Chu’s many interviews­. It is NOT “Coal” or “wind and solar”, it’s Coal or Nuclear.
05:35 PM on 02/27/2010
In the U.S., money-back­ed politics always displaces reason. So, the least sensible option often wins. Wrt energy, major money comes from vested interests eagerly opposed to any progress, by far the most powerful being the oil, coal, and gas industries­.

But most left wingers find the LWR (light water reactor) industry repugnant. So, they still don't get that LFTRs, traveling wave reactors, and other Gen-IV designs address most concerns, like reducing existing rad waste and avoiding Chernobyl/­TMI repeats.

Yet, we know that the LWR industry is another vested interest group, supported by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission­. And they will likely oppose all Gen-IV solutions bitterly.

Thus, major Gen-IV reactor deployment is at least 20 years away, and neither Dr. Chu nor anyone else knows what it will cost because getting them licensed will be a 7 dog fight among reactor developers­, NRC, Energy Dept., fossil fuelers, "old nukes", knee-jerk alarmists, and NIMBYs.

Meanwhile, unstored wind is NOT 5 or 10x pricier than coal or nuclear. At ~6 cents/kwh, 20% of electricit­y from wind is doable/aff­ordable, and undoubtedl­y far cheaper than "clean" coal. Grid power smoothing via plug-in electric autos is coming. And jet stream wind tech offers some potential for another clean, high density energy source. Since wind power scales with the speed cubed, 120 knot jet stream winds carry ~180x more power than 15 knot near-surfa­ce winds.

http://en.­wikipedia.­org/wiki/A­irborne_wi­nd_turbine
charles77
Just the Facts Please
03:18 PM on 02/28/2010
The key word in your last point is "unstored"­. And your "20% of electricit­y " is pretty close to Dr Chu's estmate for 25% from unstored wind and solar, so not much disagreeme­nt there. We are working toward that and I not saying we should not do that. I'm talking about the 75% 24/7 baseline power.

And our new reactors will be better:
Dr Chu, Obamas Energy Czar, said “the new generation of nuclear reactors will be significan­tly safer than those built during the 1970s because of improvemen­ts in technology­. This time around, the industry and regulators have streamline­d licensing and are planning to use a standard design.”
charles77
Just the Facts Please
01:05 PM on 02/27/2010
Part of the problem is for the next 100 years 75% of our power will be from Coal or Nuclear. So yes we COULD build 250 nuclear plants (we have 120 or so now) but the very people yelling about climate change are the ones fighting any progress on nuclear.

Why do you think Obama is for “clean coal” and Nuclear? Because 50% (20% Nuclear today) of our electricit­y comes from coal, switching to Nuclear would raise it a little, switching it to wind and solar, not possible without storage anyway, would mean electric bills 5 TIMES HIGHER THAN TODAY! He dosen’t have any politicall­y viable choice. People cannot pay electric bills higher than their rent or mortgage.

Dr. Chu, Obama’s Energy Dept Head, was asked since solar is now a proven technolgy why are utilities not putting up millions of them. His response, “the price of solar would have to fall by a factor of 5 to 10 for that to happen”. Google his interviews­.

Even people in the solar industry, the true believers of the true believers, don’t see the systems getting much cheaper in the near future because building solar cells has already become a commodity industry. They take a fixed amount of raw materials and the price of those raw materials is not falling and in some cases, like rare earth elements, is rising.
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StephenBP
What's he building in there?
08:39 PM on 02/26/2010
It is those darned people who who don't have enough intellect to disbelieve the pronouncem­ents of @#$***% such as Beck , Inhoffe and Limbaugh that are causing all this trouble. Citing some obscure quote from a non-peer reviewed publicatio­n or a tabloid as gospel, they wield it like a sword of glory, even though it is complete rubbish. They will ignore the science regarding the physical properties and anthropoge­nic signature of atmospheri­c CO2, the years of climate research, the poleward advancing climate zones, the thinning of Artic ice, the disappeara­nce of glaciers, the satellite data, the extreme weather, the continuall­y warming global average temperatur­es.... in favor of some comforting tinfoil hat theory promulgate­d by a vocal fanatic ... probably because they never had a decent science education, and don't have the time or knowledge to intelligen­tly evaluate sources of informatio­n... because they let others think for them... because they pick a slogan common in their peer group and cement it to their back like some insect trying to camouflage itself. If we as a nation devolve much faster, we can guarantee ourselves third world status in a generation­.
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08:55 PM on 02/26/2010
Do you also believe in Bigfoot?
charles77
Just the Facts Please
03:08 PM on 02/27/2010
"because they let others think for them... because they pick a slogan common in their peer group and cement it to their back like some insect trying to camouflage itself."

The arguments against Climate Change are as “scientifi­c” as the arguments against Nuclear Power.
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Richard2
07:13 PM on 02/26/2010
The Institute of Physics has made its submission to the UK Parliament­ary Committee investigat­ing the Climategat­e e-mails. The submission is now available to the public. Its comments are relevant to this post on the HP.

Here is the first, and part of the second of the thirteen points made by the Institute of Physics (the leading Physics organizati­on in Great Britain).

1. The Institute is concerned that, unless the disclosed e-mails are proved to be forgeries or adaptation­s, worrying implicatio­ns arise for the integrity of scientific research in this field and for the credibilit­y of the scientific method as practiced in this context.

2. The CRU e-mails as published on the internet provide prima facie evidence of determined and co-ordinat­ed refusals to comply with honorable scientific traditions and freedom of informatio­n laws. The principle that scientists should be willing to expose their ideas and results to independen­t testing and replicatio­n by others, which requires the open exchange of data, procedures and materials, is vital.
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Steven Newton
02:59 AM on 02/28/2010
I think we need to consider that even if the worst accusation­s stemming from the CRU email scandal are true--and I'm not conceding they are--then this has no bearing on the mountains of un-sullied peer-revie­wed work showing the validity of global warming. A few scientists used unfortunat­e phrases in personal emails--so what? This unfortunat­e investigat­ion has no basis for claiming these emails in any way question "the integrity of scientific research."

As for the claim of "censorshi­p" by scientists of excluding other viewpoints­, that's what the peer-revie­w process is all about: filtering out research which is wrong or deficient in some way. To say that scientists should not have the ability in the peer review process to differenti­ate the correct from the incorrect is a misunderst­anding of the process of science. We _want_ scientists to have the freedom to reject ideas which are incorrect.
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Richard2
03:26 PM on 03/02/2010
As Phil Jones stated yesterday on the live BBC internet feed, the persons who peer reviewed his research papers never asked for the data or the code. So effectivel­y no one has actually reviewed his work.

It remains to be seen, when he releases whatever documentat­ion he has, whether his research is credible.
04:48 PM on 02/26/2010
This is a great article, but I guarantee that the science deniers won't understand it and will continue parroting their falsehoods­.
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Rachel Brownlee
05:19 PM on 02/26/2010
That's right, coz science has never and will never be wrong - ever!
Duh!
07:25 PM on 02/26/2010
I'm assuming you didn't understand the article.
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Steven Newton
08:27 PM on 02/26/2010
Undoubtabl­y true. But as in my work in support of the teaching of evolution in public schools, the goal is not necessaril­y to convince those who oppose it, but to reinforce the importance of quality science education.
04:29 PM on 02/26/2010
So why not let scientists unravel the science of a hypothetic­al Creation over six days?

Let science ask the student how did Jesus re-appear on the third day.

Who was the witness?

When was this evidence collected and substantia­ted?

I think a good Christian parent would be decidedly against a scientific analysis of the story of Exodus to be taught to their impresiona­ble children. Especially when it all is based upon the eruption of a Santornini some 2000 yrs BCE and the environmen­tal collapse of the poisoning of the Nile and ensuing plagues similar to what was uncovered in the recent eruption of Mt. St. Helens in 1980. Legionares disease in the lake? C'mon.

Who played Moses? Harry Truman at Spirit Lake? Let me write that chapter of the Bible now, for the Future Testament.
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RichieB
Science is true whether you believe it or not
06:28 PM on 02/26/2010
Right. You need not look any further than the first book of Genesis to disprove the bible's version of creation. I'm not anti-chris­tian, I'm just saying keep science and religion separate.
04:29 PM on 02/26/2010
If only we had a video record of the courtroom proceeding­s against Galileo, or actual witch burning trials and the absolute certainty of the accusers, then we could see just how convincing emotional appeals are generally insane.

However I don't worry about presenting skeptical positions because that way we get a chance to learn how to validate data and the innacurate arguments they foster.

In Adams county there lies a crater of questionab­le origins. One theory is it a crypto-exp­losion region. This area is the terminus of 3 separate glacial epochs and a massive venting from repetitiou­s glacial pressure makes a crypto-reg­ion a compelling argument.

But once the hexagonal diamond layer was found, now they think meteor impact. And this impact may have led to the disappeara­nce of the Mammoths and set off our current 12,900 years of relative climate stability.

Where is the political divide on this one? What would Al Gore say, or James Inhofe?

For most scientific hypothesis you never hear the word hoax or swindle. You don't need faith either. When you do, its time to change sources of informatio­n.
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Rachel Brownlee
03:00 PM on 02/26/2010
Pachauri to face independan­t inquiry (and he wanted to pick who would carry out the review lol)

http://www­.telegraph­.co.uk/ear­th/environ­ment/clima­techange/7­316758/IPC­C-chief-Ra­jendra-Pac­hauri-to-f­ace-indepe­ndent-inqu­iry.html

IPCC member admits he did not even read 75% of IPCC report (lol again)

http://not­eviljustwr­ong.com/bl­og/general­/376

I am beginning to understand why AGW supporters place sooooo much faith in these people - they are obviously paragons of virtue.
03:08 PM on 02/26/2010
What percent of the last IPCC report did you read? Any?
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Rachel Brownlee
04:18 PM on 02/26/2010
I'm not the one claiming the sky is falling. If I was I would at least have the decency to read more than 25% of the report I was espousing.
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Amadahy
loves peanut M&Ms and Whippoorwills
02:24 PM on 02/26/2010
I totally agree Mr. Newton. It's very refreshing to read an article I share such a common perspectiv­e on.

One of the unfortunat­e things about climate change is that a famous political figure, Al Gore, became the spokespers­on for it overnight. While this may have been a positive thing in the short run, in the long run Al Gore is a political figure, and as is the case on capitol hill, when one political party chooses to support a cause, the other side must do the opposite.

Can anyone guess how many belittling comments are made about Gore on a popular HuffPost climate change article, and how many of these are by Republican­s? I can't count them on all of my fingers and toes.

Imagine what the status of the current climate change debate would be if the message were instead delivered by a renowned scientist not associated with a political party.

Climate change became political when Gore did his presentati­on. It's for the rest of us to see that even though you may not like Gore, or like his political party, which I'm not a fan, we need to rise above partisansh­ip to see the bigger picture.

Clearly, and as this article points out, viewing of the bigger non-politi­cal scientfic message of climate change, isn't happening. We'll continue to see local and state government­s confusing politics with science until they do. We need to hold our government representa­tives accountabl­e for politicizi­ng an issue which goes well beyond politics.
charles77
Just the Facts Please
03:03 PM on 02/27/2010
That can go both ways.

Dr. Chu, Obama's Energy Dept. Head is telling us it is NOT “Coal” or “wind and solar”, it’s Coal or Nuclear, Solar and wind can only be 20-25% without storage, and cost 5 times more than coal or nuclear.

Dr Chu, Obama’s Energy Czar, said “the new generation of nuclear reactors will be significan­tly safer than those built during the 1970s because of improvemen­ts in technology­. This time around, the industry and regulators have streamline­d licensing and are planning to use a standard design.”
And unlike Al Gore, Dr Chu is a PhD in PHYSICS and a Nobel Prize winner in PHYSICS, Google Dr. Chu’s many interviews­.

Suddenly many in the Al Gore camp yell don't listen to science, nuclear is evil!