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The Pro-God Parts of America

Posted: 10/24/08 06:05 PM ET

Look carefully and you'll notice that Republicans lately have not only been saying that Red Staters are more "pro-America" than others but also that they're more pro-God.

John McCain said recently that Western Pennsylvania is the "most God-loving" part of the country. A Republican congressman Robin Hayes declared, "There's a real America, and liberals hate real Americans that work, and accomplish, and achieve, and believe in God." Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said last month that Democrats "find Governor Palin quite horrifying because she actually believes in God."

Here's the sad thing: I think many on the right actually believe that Democrats, by definition, don't believe in God -- and that those who claim they do are phonies.

Former Senator Rick Santorum recently explained that Obama and liberal Protestants in general couldn't really claim to be real Christians because of their theology. "When you take a salvation story and turn it into a liberation story you've abandoned Christiandom and I don't think you have a right to claim it," he said. "You're a liberal something, but you're not a Christian."

Conservative columnist Cal Thomas had earlier made a similar point after reading that Obama left open the possibility that non-Christians might be able to get into heaven:

"Obama can call himself anything he likes, but there is a clear requirement for one to qualify as a Christian and Obama doesn't meet that requirement," Thomas said. "One cannot deny central tenets of the Christian faith, including the deity and uniqueness of Christ as the sole mediator between God and Man and be a Christian. Such people do have a label applied to them in Scripture. They are called 'false prophets.'"

I can recall vividly the moment when I realized most clearly that the religious gulf among Americans has become not about differences in worship but about the legitimacy of other people's worship. I had been spending a lot of time talking with conservative evangelicals about the religious landscape and then happened to find myself at a liberal protestant church for worship services. I was struck by how, well, religious it was -- like they actually seemed to deeply love Jesus Christ, his word, his life and his meaning.

It probably shouldn't have surprised me that I'd find religious people in a church service but I'd absorbed the notion from my conservative evangelical friends that liberals who do attend church do so for political reasons, not because they love God.

This view helps explain the disdain some conservatives have for Obama's religiosity. As one person posted as a comment on my blog, "Obama as an adult joined the a Black Liberation UCC church. There is decidedly nothing Christian about this religion."

The Founders believed that worshiping God deeply does not require demonizing other faiths. This is not the same as saying all religions are true but rather that citizens of a pluralistic nation should aspire to a basic respect of each other's faith and the sincerity of their spiritual journey.

Democrats are not blameless. I've seen some mock Sarah Palin's membership in a Pentecostal church as proof of her unfitness for office. Conservative evangelicals are often cast, privately, as wacky or stupid. It offends me when Obama supporters send around the video of Palin being prayed for by a Pentecostal minister decrying witchcraft. What's she supposed to do? Interrupt the prayer and say, "sorry - can't sign on to that part. Please resume"? As regular readers of my Beliefnet blog know, I've defended Sarah Palin's faith repeatedly.

But I don't want to engage in false equivalence on this point. I've seen and read many bigoted rank-and-file Democrats but I've yet to see a major Democratic Party leader suggest that the faith of Republicans or conservatives is illegitimate. (If I'm missing an example, please point me to it). Indeed, Obama ruffled feathers on the left by declaring a few years ago. "There are some liberals who dismiss religion in the public square as inherently irrational or intolerant, insisting on a caricature of religious Americans that paints them as fanatical, or thinking that the very word "Christian" describes one's political opponents, not people of faith." He has challenged Democrats to embrace religious ideas and impulses as a legitimate part of political discourse.

One of the most stunning things about the latest raft of polls is how well Obama is currently doing among the very religious. He's now beating McCain among mainline Protestants who attend church weekly and tying him among Catholics who attend mass every week. If Obama wins, it may well be because millions of devout Americans support him. Conservatives who continue to push the idea that a vote for McCain is a vote for God, will only end up losing more and more religious voters who resent being told their faith is inauthentic.

 
Look carefully and you'll notice that Republicans lately have not only been saying that Red Staters are more "pro-America" than others but also that they're more pro-God. John McCain said recently t...
Look carefully and you'll notice that Republicans lately have not only been saying that Red Staters are more "pro-America" than others but also that they're more pro-God. John McCain said recently t...
 
 
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03:26 PM on 10/26/2008
There is not supposed to be any religious test for those who run for office. But in the past few elections, there has been a religious gauntlet the candidates have had to pass through.

I think a candidate should be able to state, "My personal life--and that includes my family and my religion--is off limits." A candidate should be evaluated on his or her leadership qualities and platform.
12:44 PM on 10/26/2008
The "true believer" by Eric Hoffer, 1951, still has the most insight into the motives of joiners of mass movements, whether they be political or religious.
08:32 AM on 10/26/2008
Surerly this has nothing to do with God just levering an extra once of desperately needed political mileage.
07:28 AM on 10/26/2008
"My mind is my own church". ~ Thomas Paine (my hero)
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ohioan73
03:10 AM on 10/26/2008
"It offends me when Obama supporters send around the video of Palin being prayed for by a Pentecostal minister decrying witchcraft."

That happened as a reaction to the Republicans threatening to bring up the Rev. Wright thing again. If Barack's Rev. can be crazy, so can hers. I like to read Harry Potter with my kids and all but we really dont believe in witches. Call me crazy.
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Gidster
Not so much Liberal as I am anti evil.
12:37 AM on 10/26/2008
One of Palin's two witch hunters preachers has publicly stated, in a July 13, 2008 recorded address that Sarah Palin is in the Alaska "spiritual warfare" prayer network and thus Palin appears to be tied into to a U.S. and international "spiritual warfare" network, The Global Apostolic Prayer Network, which claims that a planetary-level demon spirit blocks prayers of Catholics from reaching Heaven and whose top members boast of possibly having helped kill Mother Theresa through prayer-warfare.

From another post on this site!
09:49 PM on 10/25/2008
Who in H do these people think they are to tell everybody else what it is to be a "Christian" when they act as hateful and self-righteous as they do? They have hijacked God. This is absolutely unacceptable. The "Christian fundamentalists" need to take a very long breather and examine themselves and their own behavior before they start prescribing how others should behave. For one thing, any church that has a political agenda should lose the IRS exemption immediately.
06:59 PM on 10/25/2008
Allegiance to a Murdered God cult, sincerley held or faked, I don't care, should have long since become extinct.

And would have, had it not been converted to an instrument of control and wealth redistribution(upward), for the past 1900 years or so.
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blueollie
nerd from Illinois
04:19 PM on 10/25/2008
Sorry, but someone who thinks that speaking in tongues is legitimate or that the "second coming" in imminent has no business near the nuclear codes.

One is not obligated to "respect" a belief just because it has a religious label slapped on it.

Though morals and values ARE important, someone who thinks that some deity can be cajoled to actively interfere in the events of the world is unqualified for high office, as far as I am concerned.
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ElBruce
02:31 PM on 10/25/2008
One would do well to check the Gospels and count the number of times that Jesus specifically mentioned abortion or homosexuality. Keep lookin'. I'll wait.

Then check and count the number of times he discussed how to respond to violence, the hypocrisy of wearing one's piety on one's sleeve, and the fundamental evil of increased income inequality.

Clearly based on their policies, the "evangelical right" is not in agreement with much of what Christ actually had to say, and in fact directly opposes a majority of his doctrines. From what I can tell the only thing they agree with him on is that he was crucified as a sacrifice for the sins of mankind, and they're all for that. But it seems they'd be a lot more comfortable if he hadn't done all that lefty preaching first.

Sometimes I suspect that the current "leaders" of fundamentalist Protestantism - which is supposed to be about each person studying Scripture directly and then making up their own minds - actually hope that the people listening to them don't ever crack open a bible and do some critical thinking for themselves. The way they abuse Scripture out of context is breathtaking, and could only ever go over on someone who doesn't actually have access to the text and a functioning brain.
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drjay79
08:03 PM on 10/26/2008
So well said, thank you.
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LisaLisa1234
01:48 PM on 10/25/2008
"The Founders believed that worshiping God deeply does not require demonizing other faiths. This is not the same as saying all religions are true but rather that citizens of a pluralistic nation should aspire to a basic respect of each other's faith and the sincerity of their spiritual journey. "

EXACTLY.
01:36 PM on 10/25/2008
I am a Christ loving main line Christian too. I must admit that I am tired of the right wing Christian agenda because they appear to be politicizing from the pulpet. I wouldn't care if they were not tax exempt. I fear that some of those who literally interpret the Bible see signs of the armagedon and seemly to do things to bring it on. I must admit I find it incredibly offensive that some Christians question Obama's Christian faith. He is an example of someone who lives his faith. I agree we must always be wary of bigotry within ourselves no matter what our religion or no religion for that matter.
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HeevenSteven
20 Minutes into the future.
01:28 PM on 10/25/2008
It isn't the far right's interpretation of religion per se that's so troubling; it is their belief that only Christians (in their narrow definition) should lead the country, and should run the government as they see fit and all the organizational efforts they've put into achieving that goal.

The problem isn't the fact that Palin belongs to her church; that's a strawman;,I'm sorry, but it is. it's what the leaders of that movement believe about religion's role in government, and that goes for her too. The video of her claiming "Eye-Rack is a task from god" should give us all pause.
12:42 PM on 10/25/2008
Very well written column. Everyone as individuals has to grow up and stop automatically believing that the republicans are the Godly party that they say they are. God gave each of us a brain and we need to use it.
11:19 AM on 10/25/2008
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Sarah Palin HAD to know Rev. Murthee past beliefs. That was WHY he was invited to her church.
She credited him several times for her election to the governorship.
So, she accepts what he stands for. She was blessed by him.
Barack Obama was at a church service Big big difference!

The problem with Republican Right wing religion a la Dobson, Hagee etc. is they are trying to make THEIR religion the religion of our government.
I am a Catholic. My beliefs have been vilified by some evangelical Christians who would be held in high esteem if Palin EVER got into office.