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Steven Weber

Posted: August 24, 2010 09:49 PM

Burned

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Okay, here's a heavy-handed analogy, followed by a brief quiz:

So, some guys burn a house down.

Then they walk away.

Another guy comes along, sees the charred remains and wants to rebuild. He tries to gather materials but is thwarted by the friends of the guys who burned the house down.

Having little choice, he tries to get money to buy materials from those same guys.

They take the money, give him some materials to rebuild, but when he tries to use them, they knock the materials out of his hands. He bends down to pick them up and they knock them out of his hands again.

Sometimes they trip him.

Sometimes they make up scary stories about him.

They force him to give time and energy towards things that make no sense instead of toward rebuilding the house they burned.

And they never really let him get started with the rebuilding of the house they burned down.

Question: is the whole thing the new guy's fault?

Answer: if you are a Republican, then yes.

It's perverse, isn't it? It's an approach that echoes the arguably impotent "Just say no" anti-drug campaign that squeezed its way out from under a big Republican's behind. It's a way to say "Hey! I'm taking action!" when, really, you aren't doing anything except making a loud noise.

In this case though, denying any culpability despite having committed the aforementioned fictional analogous act in broad daylight is the height of sociopathy.

That is, unless it's a tactic. In which case it is a premeditated strategy based on studies of power and human behavior which probably rival similar studies as researched by academics connected to historically oppressive political movements enamored with such a manipulative and disingenuous endgame.

It's weird that such insensitivities seem to regularly spring from the right wing's well. After a while, you'd have to think that the welfare of American citizens isn't something they're really interested in at all.

And there's other stuff, too.

Like allowing the fringe to swamp the middle and looking the other way as chaos replaces order. This is clearly delineated every single day in the deeds and words issued from the right wing (or the GOP and Fox News by extension. No, wait... the other way around. No, wait...)

Another broad analogy would be to say that they are basically committing a perpetual hit and run on America. They have decided that the old ways of playing by sets of rules that apply to all ideological persuasions are obsolete, that the purposeful alignment with forces which resist any regulatory mechanisms and that almost by definition will most certainly become juggernauts of instability may net the newly ruthless right wing sponsors a quick return.

Given what the world witnesses every day, that would seem to be a reasonably accurate description of Things Right Wing. For they have decided that there's gold in them there hicks. And by obstructing almost all attempts to rebuild the country which was purposely effed-up by their own dastardly deceptions, by owning the means to disseminate their misdirected messages of mayhem, by owning all the tools which would facilitate a steady and necessary recovery, they retain the right to taunt, torture and otherwise ruin whoever comes along to fix it.

The problem is that such an approach will just as certainly burn the ground out from under them and all the unknowing, unseeing enablers that comprise their fringe infantry.

And when their own house burns, will there be anyone to help them rebuild?

 

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Rasheed Kalifani Knowles
Nun ya
12:20 PM on 09/11/2010
"The problem is that such an approach will just as certainly burn the ground out from under them "

...sooo, how's that a problem? heheheh x)
01:20 AM on 08/26/2010
So say that a guy burns down a house (with the help of a Democratic controlled House and Senate) and a new guy is brought in to clean up the mess and rebuild.
The problem is the new guy is incompetent and has never run anything or rebuilt anything before. He doesn't know what he's doing so he brings in a bunch of other incompetent people. Instead of actually rebuilding the burned down house they just take the (borrowed) money and spread it among their friends. They finally do get around to the house. They work on the flowerbeds instead of building a strong foundation and framing the structure.
Eventually the homeowner comes back to check on how his borrowed money is being spent and how his burned down home is progressing. He sees a bunch of incompetent people dithering around and doing nothing to improve his home.
The homeowner throws a fit and after eventually demands change.
The new guy, his friends and they other recipients of the borrowed cash all decide that they know best and the anger is all due to racism instead of a piss poor half ass job that was expected after seeing the blueprints for the repairs.
09:43 AM on 08/26/2010
Why do conservatives always fail to point out that the 'first guy' had already driven 3 oil companies into bankruptcy and 'burned down' a perfectly good professional baseball team BEFORE burning down the house we are trying to rebuild? Republicans idea for a good foundation includes using the workers to hold up the house. No need for concrete blocks when you have bodies. No need for a sump to pump out flood waters when you have workers with shovels. Republicans build nothing and fight nothing. They USE our children to do their bidding and their killing. All of course for their profit.
12:33 PM on 08/26/2010
Maybe because the 3 oil companies and baseball team aren't being billed to the American people, they don't have anything to do with the unemployment rate and have no influence on the recovery.
Why do Liberals always scream, "Bush did it" in regards to everything happening today. Bush is gone. Unless his dog drops a duece on your lawn while out for a walk George Bush has done all the harm to this nation that he can do.
On the other hand, Obama is the President. If his policies are ineffective or simply a failure then it's HIS fault. Screaming, "Bush did it!!!" doesn't negate that. Everything Obama has proposed has been shown to fail. His "New New Deal" isn't working. The "New Deal" didn't pull America out of the Great Depression and everyone (except the cronies and blindly loyal) agreed it wouldn't work this time. Obama's infrastructure projects were tried in Japan and failed. There was no reason to believe they would work in the US as it takes years to plan and build roads, bridges and highways.
Face it. Obama is a failure and will be a one termer if the Republicans can find anyone decent to run in 2012.
Screaming "Bush did it" doesn't excuse Obama's failures. Only the stupid and blindly loyal consider "Bush did it" as a valid argument in defending Obama's policies.
04:03 PM on 08/25/2010
It's a sad re-telling of "The Goose that laid a Golden Egg", isn't it. .... "killing" the middle class in this country probably seemed (or seems) like a good strategy. But since the middle class was the "real economic genius" of this country what they are offering in its place is worse than fool's gold.

Didn't you just love Boehner's pivot to put the blame for American job loss on this administration. But why, pray tell, aren't more Democrats reminding people of the time lines here....sad though it may be that a reminder is necessary.
02:51 PM on 08/25/2010
Hmmm.....I see that the usual censorship is taking place on comments. Profanity, idiocy and vulgarity is allowed (all of the usual Lefty stuff) but dissent is blocked.
03:12 PM on 08/25/2010
Give us a high-level of what got blocked. Be honest. Did you say some things that you now regret?
02:06 PM on 08/26/2010
Let's see:
This was a very weak column. Check. That was ok.
The new guy might be qualified to hang curtains in one corner of a house but isn't qualified to rebuild a home. Check. That one was ok.
Bush is gone. The new guy owns the construction project and if he can't fix the problem then it's his fault. Check. Still good.
Nope. I don't regret anything I said. Apparently a moderator has different political views however.
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Takebackourmoney
12:25 PM on 08/25/2010
You summed it up nicely. Thank you.
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pcrudy
11:52 AM on 08/25/2010
Dr. Bush, attendee at a clinic commits malpractice by failing to diagnose and treat a curable form of cancer and then retires - Dr. Obama takes over care and responsibility for the patient's well being.

Instead of prescribing the correct treatment for the patient e.g. chemotherapy, and upon the advice of his staff, he instead tells the patient to take vitamins, eat raw cabbage, wear a silver bracelet and become a Muslim and pray for a cure, five times day.

When Dr. Bush's staff and other doctors try to advise him and his staff, of the foolishness of his treatment protocols, and do everything they can to prevent this doctor, from applying this ill advised treatment to the patient, he acts like a baby and keeps making ad hominem attacks and against the first doctor and ignores their pleas to start chemotherapy immediately.

As the patient's health declines, he sends out his assistant Dr. Biden who tells the patient and his family that the patient is 'recovering' even though those without a medical degree can see the the patients declining health.

The Hospital has brought Dr. Obama and his staff up on charges of malpractice, and has scheduled a vote this November to determine if his staff should be replaced.
11:48 AM on 08/25/2010
A lot of really stupid and uninformed people will cheer this weak and incomplete analogy.
10:08 AM on 08/26/2010
I dont know about you, but im sick of hearing about how they are going to 'put the adults back in charge'. Its the same tripe they told us when Clinton was replaced. Then they promptly lied about everything including the need for war and gave away the treasury to people who neither deserved or earned it. I think the 'adults' should sit down and shut the hell up!
02:08 PM on 08/26/2010
Obama gave the Treasury to the same people. If you didn't like the way that Bush and his people ran things then perhaps you should get out and protest the President appointing the same people to run the economy. BTW, Geithner was in charge of the NY Fed branch. What the hell was he doing while the banks ran wild (trying to figure out Turbo Tax perhaps).
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middleoftheroad
09:29 AM on 08/25/2010
Maybe the first guy burned thehouse down and we can blame him, but the second guy comes along, and now the housing market has changed, and the new guy not only wants to rebuild the old house, he wants to make it five times as big with five times the cost...and maybe there are investors for the house who are freaking out that the new guy is costing them more than the old guy did...

maybe its like that?
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BlueFloyd
The Antidote to Ayn Rand...
10:05 AM on 08/25/2010
or maybe it's nothing like that at all, and you are delusional.
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middleoftheroad
01:01 PM on 08/25/2010
lol..we'll see in November, because the fact that the dems are probably going to lose the house and almost more importantly maybe 8 or 9 major Govs and state houses (thus lost redistricting power) may prove you are a koolaid drinker...but that's cool.
09:22 AM on 08/25/2010
Your analogy is incomplete.
The problem is the guy trying to rebuild the house knows absolutely nothing about construction and just assumes that because he is so smart that if he buys a bunch of material and a bunch of tools the house will just come together.
The other guys know he cant rebuild the house and are knocking things out of his hands and telling him to get out of the way because there are extreme home makeover teams standing all around watching him just waiting for him to get out of the way so they can come in build the house correctly and build it better than it ever was.
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Steven Weber
Winner of 1967 Pond's Cold Cream Man of the Year
09:58 AM on 08/25/2010
Oh. Oh yeah. That's it! Sorry!
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BlueFloyd
The Antidote to Ayn Rand...
10:04 AM on 08/25/2010
...and who are those people who know how to rebuild it? According to what you wrote, they would be the same ones who destroyed it??????

ok, great.
07:56 PM on 08/25/2010
Nothing has been destroyed. The economy goes up and goes down, major corrections are going to happen.
The people who are waiting to rebuild it are you, me, small business, small and large banks, etc. etc.etc.
The free market will fix itself if Gov would get out of the way and stop creating so much uncertainty.
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bekhuff
09:22 AM on 08/25/2010
They're bullies. There are of course bullies everywhere in politics, not just the far right, but the right has really taken it on as an overarching persona. Like most bullies, they often see themselves as bullied. As in most similar cases, they don't see any reasonable course but to keep hitting. Their "solution" is that they need to be on top. Then everything will be okay again, they think--though their only actual plans have to do with how to keep hitting so that they get to stay on top.
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bd7769
I may not always be right, but I am never wrong.
08:56 AM on 08/25/2010
You can find four or five cases in the past 15-20 years where this fits. The sad part is that most of the politicians regardless of party have a hand in both stoking the fires and throwing roadblocks in front of the other guy’s efforts to solve an issue. The two major political parties are so engaged in tearing down the other side they do not know how to govern in any other way. In the end it’s just a zero sum game, because they only see their success as a measure of how much the other side fails. The real sad part is that in the end we the people are the ones who lose the most.
08:31 AM on 08/25/2010
If Obama wants to avoid blame for these problems, then he has to take steps to address them. Just saying, "Aw shucks, those big bad republicans wouldn't let me do anything," when we had the majority in congress, does not count.

Health care bill that only helps insurance companies? Check.

Wall street bailout and Main street bankrupt? Check.

Tens of thousands of troops still unwelcome in Iraq and Afghanistan? Check.

Civil liberties still being violated? Check.

Funny how "Change we can believe in" looks so much like "More of the same."
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Steven Weber
Winner of 1967 Pond's Cold Cream Man of the Year
09:57 AM on 08/25/2010
So, maybe if you actually read the post you wouldn't have submitted this particular comment. Better luck next time.
04:29 PM on 09/04/2010
I just have to say that I love reading and watching you. I've been re-watching "Studio 60" (thank god for Netflix!) and I can only say that I wish it were still running. Please keep the posts coming!
redonthehead
Winning trophies for my game face alone
08:28 AM on 08/25/2010
As I read these posts I'm struck by the sheer ignorance of the comments. Let's review a little history, It began in late 2007 with a financial meltdown which started at Fannie and Freddie. Fannie and Freddie were started by democrats, expanded by democrats and ultimately managed by democrats. Franklin Raines was the budget director under Pres. Clinton and then CEO of Fannie. He started the sub-prime loan program in 1999. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Raines

When Fannie and Freddie failed it spread to every part of the financial sector and while it might be fun to trash Wall Street and the banks for getting bailed out, without our financial institutions our economy would be destroyed. Rich and poor.

The Tarp program has been largely repaid. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program with the exceptions of AIG and GMAC. The Tarp program was far from perfect, but it ultimately worked. It was proposed by Treasury Sec Paulson (Bush) and NY Fed Gov Tim Geitner (Obama)

In a nutshell, both parties are to blame and both parties get credit for cleaning it up. The republicans are not the devil and the democrats are not all idiots.
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trishinpitt
No, your micro-bio is empty!
11:21 AM on 08/25/2010
Hogwash....it began in the 80's with trickle down.... it began when the Republicans led by Phil "tippy the turtle" Graham started hacking down all banking and finance regulation including Glass-Steagel (and yes, Clinton approved that mess). It began when banks merged with investment firms...it began when mortgages went from being 30 year fixed to 40 year fixed, 30 year APR, 10 Year interest only, based on the LIBOR, 10 years interest only with a balloon payment in year 11... it began with derivatives and bundling bad mortgages together and selling them as investiments with AAA ratings. It began with predatory lenders who had no problem lying on people's applications just to sell a mortgage... it began with idiots who thought they could make a quick killing on buying and selling their home while the market was climbing, forgetting that the house they bought was way too expensive for them (btw, more million dollar homes are in hot water than under a million -- those folks don't get Freddy and Fannie loans) cont'd
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trishinpitt
No, your micro-bio is empty!
11:25 AM on 08/25/2010
Part deux - there was a lot of dishonesty, crime, despicable behavior on the parts of a lot of people around this country and around this world. But what everyone is enjoying right now is the stupid idea that you can pin it on Obama and not Bush. Bush took us from a $4.5 trillion debt to over $10 trillion. He entered us into two unending wars, he gave tax cuts to the rich that will bankrupt this nation knowing he was going to go into war. He turned a blind eye to a majority of this country while he watched his buddies in the energy business bleed us all dry with crazy gas prices that played a HUGE part in putting people out of business, out of work, and unable to afford to drive their cars, heat their homes. He watched as Enron and others manipulated the market in CA and laughed all the way to the bank. He borrowed like crazy from anyone who would buy our debt and now we are into China huge. He ridiculed are US Treasury notes and said they were basically paper in a file cabinet and then had to do some fancy talking to promise they were backed up with more than just talk. He played guitar and partied with John McCain while New Orleans flooded. He did more damage to the US reputation than Bill Clinton's BJ's could ever do.
08:23 AM on 08/25/2010
What do the words Liberal and Conservative really mean?

I am labeled a Liberal yet:

I want to “conserve” the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, ensuring equal protection under the law for all of our citizens.

I want to “conserve” our economy by restoring strong Corporate regulations that ensure healthy economic activity.

I want to “conserve” a safe and secure standard of living for elderly Americans by NOT messing around with Social Security and Medicare.

I want to “conserve” our labor force by preventing greedy corporate interests from shipping jobs overseas in order to save 10 cents on some nameless widget.

I want to “conserve” our environment from reckless destruction brought on by our industrial carelessness.

While those who call themselves Conservative:

Applaud Liberal interpretations of the Constitution that give corporations almost unlimited power to influence elections.

Applaud Liberal interpretations of the Constitution that allows for the Government to spy on Americans.

Applaud Liberal interpretations of the Geneva Conventions that allows for the torture of prisoners.

Applaud a Liberal redistribution of wealth by supporting policies that help the richest 1% get richer, while the other 99% struggle to get by.

Applaud a Liberal reinterpretation if not repeal of portions of the bill of rights they don’t like.

Applaud laws that allow for “liberal” deregulation of business, enabling the worst financial disaster in history and quite possibly the destruction of the planet.

Applaud Liberal interpretations of history that suggest America is a Christian Nation.
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e-cat
limit the litters, neuter your critters
09:51 AM on 08/25/2010
They not only applaud liberal interpretations that suggest America is a *christian* nation,, they applaud the re-writing of American history altogether. I can feel the rumble of the floorboards beneath me as the Founding Fathers, Lincoln and FDR are turning in their graves.

Your list speaks to my conservative liberal side. Bravo for a job well done.
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Miss Mamselle Hepzibah
10:28 AM on 08/25/2010
sir digby, you are so fanned and faved!

mmh
11:52 AM on 08/25/2010
Why, Mamselle, it's indeed good to see you.

Pogo
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FirstGame72
The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters
08:18 AM on 08/25/2010
Another way to put it: You try to help a great number of people (not yourself) by undoing the damage the person before you in your job did. You get nothing but criticism for trying. In fact EVERYONE forgets that you weren't the one who caused the damage in the first place. Do you try a second time to fix a problem somebody else created?
Somebody has spilled coffee in the kitchen of your office. You walk in and begin to clean it up. Five people walk in and each one assumes and says outright how clumsy you are for spilling the coffee. None listen to you when you say you didn't spill it. No one thanks you for cleaning it up.
Do you clean up somebody else's spill the next time you walk into the kitchen?
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mwilbur137
Political Junkie/Intellectual Elitist
10:46 AM on 08/25/2010
Yes, because if you don't clean it up, who else will?

I like a clean kitchen.
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FirstGame72
The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters
12:41 PM on 08/25/2010
You know, you could have at least tried to answer my last question.
Would you clean up spill after spill if all you received for your trouble was criticism? Never thanks.