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Steven Weber

Posted: September 11, 2010 03:12 AM

Historiphobia

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Remember attacks on German Americans during World War 1? How about more of the same in World War 2? The Japanese internment camps? The perennial demonization of Jews? Gays? Catholics? Not to mention those who toiled and died in slavery and lived lives of humiliation under Jim Crow.

It's all there in the history that seems to have been almost purposely mislaid by those who know too well that a public which knows its own story knows itself; it is an activist public, educated and energized against forces which inevitably seek power through oppression and division.

Like a recalcitrant child who refuses to see the lesson of its past imperfect behavior, the mobs who lately decry Islam and discharge their fatuous bile are only the latest in a long line of porous intellects railing against convenient scapegoats and destined to replay an episode that, were history a requisite part of this nation's diet (instead of just another quaint castoff from the pre-iPhone era), would surely have evolved out of existence.

Instead, the tenacious low-brow rabble will inevitably grow and spawn yet more generations of imbeciles, rotten apples dropped from the blasted bough of a diseased tree (see Mike Judge's "Idiocracy" for some seriously terrifying comedy on the subject).

Because, despite the still reverberating echoes of recent history, echoes which have to fight to pierce the driving blizzard of bandwidth, these routine displays of ignorance have come to define the face of America, the one the world sees and recognizes as the face of a once great, now mad, deposed king.

And since 9/11, there's money to be made in the fear game and keeping it alive and aflame is lining many a capitalisto-fascist's pockets. You know who they are: the loud, the unruly and the pissed, the chicken hawks and the hypocrites, the ones who make no bones about damning an entire people if it fits their writ-in-crayon credo. These are the folks who look at the darker aspects of our nation's history and take away not lessons but blueprints: it can be done again, only slicker, bolder. Using a socio-political-media infrastructure already in place, the cynical purveyors of xenophobia prod a nervous public into making choices already shown in ancient record to be senseless and destructive. But after making them dumb and fat like their bygone antecedents, they become compliant, and embark on their faithful recreation of hateful episodes in human history, like civil war re-enactors who are unaware that they're re-enacting.

And without the essential introspection provided by history's hard lessons, the nation's sanity threatens to descend into dementia in the form of these scurrilous attacks, unchecked by a bought and sold media, pushed to see how far these drones will go before they either riot or revolt.

History shows it's all been done before. Maybe that's why it's so damn easy.

 

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kahalaman
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04:21 AM on 09/14/2010
Steven, you had me at referencing "Idiocracy."

Thank you so much for taking time to reply to so many of the comments, the dialog on this thread has been interesting to say the least!

Hoping you'll phone in to the Stephanie Miller Show some time soon. She misses you.
Berettasskeeter
For what we are about to receive, may we be truly
11:47 AM on 09/13/2010
Instead of calling people names, shunning civil discourse, why doesn't the author address the fact that Islam has been, and still is, at war with the civilized world for 15 centuries, spreading its religion with the fire and sword. It is for this reason that people despise Islam, and its continuing war against the rest of the world. Further, as evidence shows that much of Islam's war begins in the mosque, it is for this second reason that people do not want the mosque built near the site of the Twin Towers.
The author's intellectual dishonesty in ignoring that Islam is at war with us could easily be remedied with honest discussion of Islam.
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gregstevens
I'm just some guy.
01:04 PM on 09/13/2010
I think it would be a worthwhile enterprise for us to start being a little less sloppy in the way we use the word "war."

Traditionally (and conservatives love tradition, right?) the term "war" refers to a declared state of conflict between sovereign nations. Thus, there is no "war on drugs", no "war on Christmas", and no "war on Terror". There never has been, and there never will be, because the actual idea of a "war" against an idea, an event, or a material substance is completely nonsensical.

And the same goes for "war" on a religion. Islam is a set of beliefs and is tied to a set of cultural traditions. It is not a country. It is not a geographic region. It is not even a clearly-defined cultural group, since the beliefs and behaviors of followers of Islam vary just as widely as the beliefs and behaviors of Jews and Christians. There are followers of Islam in America and Germany just as there are in Pakistan and Kuwait.

So Islam is not "at war" with anything. There are militant radical followers of Islam, just as there are militant radical followers of all religions. One could tediously argue for says about whether Islam has "more" than other religions, or whether the core beliefs are "more" violent than other religions. But the fact remains that this is not "war"... it's a small group of radicals who have CLAIMED to represent a very large religion.
Berettasskeeter
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01:48 PM on 09/13/2010
We may disagree on whether a religion can declare war, though I think most here would vehemently agree that Christianity declared war on Islam from around 1,000 a.d. to around the 15th century.
Islam's tenets require the world to convert, either voluntarily or forcibly. They have pursued this since its inception in the 7th century. There have been NO major leaders of Islam who have renounced this tenet. Therefore, I argue that Islam IS at war with the civilized world.
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Anna Nicole Dahmer
Lie like that & you won't go to heaven
08:20 PM on 09/13/2010
there are so many fundamentalist christians and fundie jews foaming at the mouth to rebuild their god's temple and as soon as they can get rid of the dome of the rock, their master can return. i watch a lot of religious tv, they talk about it all the time, raise money for it, they're even keeping their eye out for a red calf with no blemish to sacrifice, the menorahs are already waiting to go.

we all know it's true. just wait and see what happens when the christians demand that a cross be put in the holy jweish temple. all he// is going to break lose.
Berettasskeeter
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09:12 PM on 09/13/2010
Interesting rant. Where to begin... No Jews or Christians believe that Jesus will return just because Solomon's temple is rebuilt. That's a good start.
Semper fi
11:08 AM on 09/13/2010
"civil war re-enactors who are unaware that they're re-enacting." Brilliant.
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FlamingLibrul
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09:25 AM on 09/13/2010
Steven, I have no words to adequately describe how impressed I am with your truth-telling. I've said before that the right wing is a joke being played on America by alien life forms who are removing these people's brains and replacing them with pods. Or just mush. The lack of intellect is continually stunning. Example- the "God, Guns and Gays" platform was introduced how many decades ago? Still gets em every time. I wish this social experiment would run its course already- please, alien life forms, let these people evolve.
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Steven Weber
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10:24 AM on 09/13/2010
Thanks. Back at you triple. I have found great comaraderie among the folks who comment here and have learned so much. While I spew my emotional based rants, many here have the intellectual power and articulateness to back them up. You, Sir Real, John Lorenzo, Tom R. and many more. I'm...I'm weeping now! You wonderful, crazy band of rag-tag, half-breed, freedom-lovin' knuckleheads, you!
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FlamingLibrul
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11:18 AM on 09/13/2010
Wow, if we were actually talking, I'd truly be speechless. I'm seriously honored to be included in your list of "rag-tag," half-breed, freedom-lovin' knuckleheads!" All the time I've spent here "opinionating" might actually lead to a job soon, which reassures me I haven't just been avoiding real life by making a hobby of troll-bashing...Hey, this has to be more intellectually stimulating than video games! Where's my hanky?
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07:17 PM on 09/13/2010
BTW, have you ever given "Fran Leslie " my regards and my belated birthday wishes
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Anna Nicole Dahmer
Lie like that & you won't go to heaven
05:49 PM on 09/13/2010
that's exactly right, flaminglibrul. John Carpenter's "They Live", it's about 3d glasses and sellout human media (fox news) and aliens that all look like john boehner in drag. low budget film, but the premise is so today.
i noticed mr weber didn't mention me in the ragtag gang, that's alright, he realizes i have an agenda.
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FlamingLibrul
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08:23 PM on 09/13/2010
John Carpenter could make a great horror flick based on the current state of rightwingery in America. A Stepford/BORG melding... I'm sure Steven didn't have anything written when he was going through his off-the-cuff list. Coulda been worse- like being an integral part of his Hollywood success and being dissed while he's accepting an award or something. The horror.
09:19 AM on 09/13/2010
Thank you. If one good thing came of the nonstop coverage of the Gainesville Koran non-burning it was to have our noses finally rubbed in the ugliness of Islamophobia, in front of the world.
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Imzadi
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06:40 AM on 09/13/2010
Thank you, Steven. Your posts not not only entertain, but they educate.

*Kudos.*
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SirReal1
12:38 AM on 09/13/2010
There is a phenomena that happens here on HuffPo with a high degree of frequency. This phenomena is somewhat amusing to watch for the first couple times you see it, then it rapidly devolves into annoying, and then finally becomes mundane with countless exposures.

It goes something like this:

Commenter one: Corporations would rather spend $Millions$ to fight legislation designed to protect workers, than to spend the few $Thousand$ that it would cost to comply with the legislation.

Commenter two: NAME ONE corporation that does that.

Commenter one: Slaps forehead and posts no response.
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SirReal1
12:43 AM on 09/13/2010
(The reason that commenter 1, and no one else, posts a response, is because the list of Corporations who have been cited for this kind of activity is nearly uncountable. It has been well publicized, widely reported on, and is simply a "known" commodity. The depth of ignorance that someone would have to possess in order to "NOT KNOW" of an example would have to be immeasurable, and could only be caused by willfulness or idiocy. Responding, by citing any example would only be met with denial or argument that would simply prolong a pointless debate. The simple act of typing "corporations lobbying against workers protections" would produce countless examples, but commenter two has no interest in doing that, their's is an act of defiance of fact, it is a challenge to anyone to try to use "reason" against their dogged, stubborn, ignorance. And most everyone knows that reason has no chance against such a foe.)

Commenter two: I see that no one can provide a single example.

Commenter two: No one? I win!

You didn't; Ignorance did.
01:29 AM on 09/13/2010
The human ego can be so amusing sometimes. And to think if you had actually possesed an example and just given it.. we all would have missed out on this little bit of entertainment. You liberals.. I tell ya... one minute I'm wanting to pull my hair out and the next I'm being entertained. What a ride.
Berettasskeeter
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11:42 AM on 09/13/2010
But you still don't name one!
Semper fi
12:15 AM on 09/13/2010
Excellent post Steven.

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It's all there in the history that seems to have been almost purposely mislaid by those who know too well that a public which knows its own story knows itself; it is an activist public, educated and energized against forces which inevitably seek power through oppression and division.
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Republicans are actively trying to rewrite American history taught in schools:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/13/texas-textbook-massacre-u_n_498003.html

Disgusting behavior.

- Tom
11:04 PM on 09/12/2010
Ah yes - another politician who does not understand the difference between a building and a religion. Fomenting hatred, while claiming to do the opposite. If understanding is the key, why not make ANY attempt to understand the feelings of those opposed to the BUILDING - NOT the religion?
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Querent
I just had to say that.
03:43 AM on 09/13/2010
Mr. Weber is not a politician, and nobody is obligated to think of anything in the context you dictate.
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JohnLorenzo
Examine the reasons of your true intent.
12:51 PM on 09/13/2010
AdamX, you simply assume those who support a building near the 9/11 site have not 'tried' to understand those who oppose it. Myself, and many others I know have actually discussed the drama in depth. For the majority, it comes out in support.

Nothing, about building a recreation center blocks away from the 9/11 site, that welcomes people of all religious backgrounds, is insulting or degrading to the memory of those Americans who died there. A place like this can only generate understanding and some healing.

A person opposing the building of such a place in this location must also be against the religion of the individual building the center. Why? Because it is no different than the long and treacherous history of whites who become enraged at a black family moving into their neigborhoods. Many will say, "Oh, I'm not opposed to black people, they just don't belong in my neighborhood."

People you fear or dislike are fine as long as they go and stay where you want them to be, right?
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Mort
Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.
09:33 PM on 09/12/2010
Erudite with daggers. Always a fun read, Steven! And always right on the mark.
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Freesia2
I'm nicer than I appear in print. :-)
08:49 PM on 09/12/2010
Yesterday Steven, working my way into that awful aniversary of 9/11, and sobbing like a baby at a photo of a fragile old person serving food to a fragile homeless man, just a general mix of sadness and tying to make sense of it all and try to find some glimmers of light or make sense of the insanity that seems to pile up by the day distracting us and taking us backward  - I decided to post on an article about 9/11 and I reached for the first 3 paragraphs of your post here. Because there was so much truth in them. That's all. Just your words.  I just put up your words and accredited Steven Weber.

Just now I checked my profile. 27 people had faved it. Which means they faved you. Naturally there was a troll or two because rotten apple falls as you say, but 27 people read your words and understood. I just thought you'd like to know that.
08:33 PM on 09/12/2010
"History shows its all been done before." Indeed. One of the best examples is the "Know Nothing" Party which came to prominence during the 1850s and grew out of a strong anti-immigrant sentiment. Sounds like the Tea Party, huh?
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/320530/Know-Nothing-party
04:59 PM on 09/12/2010
Hello Steven,

I like this article because it gives examples of some of the ridiculous things that come out of our modern media. Some nut says something totally crazy and the media starts repeating it like parrots. Why do they give these nuts the time of day? They all get free airtime.

The news media rarely brings up stuff like the Japanese internment camps, maybe because it's embarrassing to us today? More likely it's not inflammatory enough to put up on the news too much time has passed for people to get all riled up about it.

The Japanese Americans that went through it, aren't complaining to the pundits for political points or trying to get their mug on TV.

Of course we are also to blame, because we sit and listen to the crap that comes out of the TV speaker. We don't complain to them and ask them why they don't do some in depth news instead of all the bull crap.

I get annoyed and want to yell at them for putting such poo on TV and call it news. Of course if I yell at the TV, no one is listening.
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FTracy3
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03:19 PM on 09/12/2010
Thesaurus Free Version: Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it
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Steven Weber
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03:42 PM on 09/12/2010
I was going to post a reply to you which had a fairly high word count, but being a people-pleaser I have reduced it for you: you're a moron.

Still too many words, honey?
04:14 PM on 09/12/2010
LOL!
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FTracy3
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11:26 PM on 09/12/2010
Steven, you're a very good actor (I mean that in all sincerity), a profession that deals with rejection from casting agents and critics all the time, so get a thicker skin. I just happen to think some of your posts are a bit overwrought. Leave the name calling to those of us in the trenches here. You'll have plenty of defenders, you've got a lot of fans. In other words, don't reduce yourself to my level! And don't call me honey unless you mean it. You don't want to encourage a stalker, do you?
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01:43 PM on 09/12/2010
I've noticed that when someone picks up one of kams assertions, she goes straight into false equivalency mode wothout addressing the point. I've also noticed they do this quite a lot on faux news too. Here's an unoffensive example:

Anyone; Republicans drink at least five cups of coffee a day.

kams; Democrats drink SIX CUPS A DAY!! How can you believe in such a FALSEHOOD??!!!

Itchy.
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Miss Mamselle Hepzibah
02:25 PM on 09/12/2010
f & f'd!

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Anna Nicole Dahmer
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02:54 PM on 09/12/2010
hahaha.

Scratchy.
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Querent
I just had to say that.
03:48 AM on 09/13/2010
Hi, Anna. How you doing?