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- ResidentChimp See Profile I'm a Fan of ResidentChimp permalink

It interesting to read reaction of civilians as they try to grasp the reality of war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 04/06/2008
- Adobe See Profile I'm a Fan of Adobe permalink

Great article and so true.5 years ago this summer I had a friend killed in Iraq-it not only made front page headlines in my small town paper but was reported on many New England TV stations and in newspapers across Northern New England.There were at least 3 different memorials held that were also widely covered.Now,the death of a soldier in this war may rate a tiny paragraph on page 3,if anything at all.
Would love to see more from this writer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 04/05/2008
- wisechild See Profile I'm a Fan of wisechild permalink

Thank you for this post.

I sense that the war has many victims we don't hear about and this may be one example of someone is alive, not maimed or psycologically damaged. It is too bad that Jack places himself in the green zone, whatever his reason. That is his personal choice. Maybe he'll choose to return here and deal wilth the adrenalin issue.

I would imagine that being used by this president to occupy a country for undefined and ever changing goals in a war clearly based on lies would be enough to cure someone of wanting to be there. Sure the troops would prefer to be home with their loved ones.

Since Petraeus and Crocker will be testifying about Iraq with their 'surge' report it is little wonder the MSM go elsewhere for their reporting. Most of them have been enablers of this war and fail to report on it because they have been used as tools. There are many exceptions of course as the books about Iraq have come out.

The American people seem more concerned about who got kicked from American Idol. If you don't ask for more than that, you will continue to dumb down about everything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 04/05/2008
- January See Profile I'm a Fan of January permalink

The news says that US troops are currently working to push the opposition beyond 170mm mortar range from the Green Zone. My guess is that military planners got caught by surprise that the efforts to push al-Sadr out of Basra would be accompanied by shelling of the Green Zone. So it may be that the Basra offensive has just been put on hold. First make sure the folks in the Green Zone are safe, then remove troops who refuse to shoot at their brothers in Basra, and try again to take it over. It would be comical if it weren't life and death.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 04/05/2008
- donkee See Profile I'm a Fan of donkee permalink

and what do

you do with it when

you "take it"

stay there forever

guarding it

heh...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 04/05/2008
- nyboomer See Profile I'm a Fan of nyboomer permalink

Winning the lottery is a dream most people play and replay in their minds. I d, too, but I don't buy any tcikets so my winning will remain well ensconced in fanatsy land.

The lottery Jack won is one that has created more atheists than any other, except for the instances when the guy next you gets killed while you are unharmed. I wish him all the luck necessary to get over his adrenalin addiction.

I am saddened by the MSM declining to report the news from Iraq. In the 60s the reports about Vietnam kept on coming and people became enraged or deadened to the carnage. In this altercation we are kept well away from the blood and gore of Americans and Iraqis being killed and maimed daily. Without this media imposed censorship America would have demanded a conclusion long ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 04/05/2008
- MadeinAmericaProud See Profile I'm a Fan of MadeinAmericaProud permalink

Valid point boomer, just not enough clear thinking boomers have been to speak out because they made a living off the war. Haliburton contractors, KBR contractors and Blackwater playing private cowboys all being paid on the future children of American income and their labor. It's call off the books war. Kinda like Enron have so many off the books transactions until it their house of cards fell.

We keep dumbing down ourselves. I didn't speak up.why? The nature of being a whistle blower is so ridged, being a patriot of a nation not united for the good is stupid. All forms of media just say the title of the poor soul who speak up for the good of all, is stated with such a tone that sound the same way anyone would say sh*t if they stepped in it. (I know so much, I have been and done that, never again, it destroys the individual who have the balls or guts to do so)

Until the pro-life stand up and be honest and they want to change the mind set of nations against wars, will be the 1st step to healing this nation birth defects.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 04/05/2008
- schatsie See Profile I'm a Fan of schatsie permalink

As a mother of a soldier deployed to Iraq, I had a full year of insomnia... I even dreamed that I got the dreaded call from my daughter in law (they have 2 children)... EVERY time the phone rang, you had this terrible thought, and then to be afraid to go to sleep and wake up crying tears and sobbing was horrible... and that was me and not my daughter in law....

5 years and no plan to end this in sight.... bunch of cokehead chickenshits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 04/05/2008
- DavidHealy See Profile I'm a Fan of DavidHealy permalink

This lack of news from the front and the resulting fact that the war is mostly absent from the nightly news makes for a strange disconnect in politics when some Republican Congressman huffilly asks "Don't you know there's a war going on?" when somebody has the temerity to attempt to thwart the latest contracting boondoggle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 04/05/2008
- representativepress See Profile I'm a Fan of representativepress permalink


Help Phil Donahue promote his movie:
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 04/05/2008
- davidly See Profile I'm a Fan of davidly permalink

Sounds like Jack has a pretty good chance of winning that lottery; considering his loyalties, just what is his motivation for wanting that win reported on the news?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 04/05/2008
- davidly See Profile I'm a Fan of davidly permalink

Oh, my fault. That's Ms. Langlois who laments the lack of press coverage. Sorry, but he is the one playing, so he can win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 04/05/2008
- EspritDeVoltaire See Profile I'm a Fan of EspritDeVoltaire permalink

The attacks on the Green Zone are simply the Counter-Surge which was to be expected by anyone who thought deeper than taking Bush at his word.

Funny how this works, but if you kill someone's friends and relatives they might decide to take revenge upon you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 AM on 04/05/2008
- revwilliam See Profile I'm a Fan of revwilliam permalink

I don't care.

I don't care about you, them or us.

There is only losing now or losing later.

We learned nothing.

We used a bazooka to kill a gnat,
and destroyed someone's home.
When they complained
we killed them.

Heckuva job, America

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 AM on 04/05/2008
- Intelinside See Profile I'm a Fan of Intelinside permalink

i'm in total agreement, i'm so ashamed of my country and the morons who elected a worthless suit like bush. "the greatest country on earth", bullshit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 04/05/2008
- knighthowl See Profile I'm a Fan of knighthowl permalink

It was not America, but George W. Bush, Idiot In Chief. But that aside, I am appalled at your professed lack of care. If you are being honest, people like you are a greater danger than the Idiot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 AM on 04/05/2008
- Nommo See Profile I'm a Fan of Nommo permalink

It was America indeed. The silent America. Silent on stolen elections, silent on the lies, and most of all silent on the ongoing madness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 04/05/2008
- indypete See Profile I'm a Fan of indypete permalink

The first job of the next prez will be to apologise to the Iraqi civilians for the horrors imposed on them by cheney and bush. Of course it won't happen, but it should.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 04/05/2008
- rixhex56 See Profile I'm a Fan of rixhex56 permalink

I understand your concerns about your friend. And I do not wish to belittle his service to our country. It is sad that he had faith in the moronic chimp currently residing in the White House. I do sense something inherently wrong with this entire scenario that you have described. It starts with your friend's following statement about going back to Iraq:

"'I really feel alive here, I guess I'm an adrenalin junkie.'"

I find it particularly troubling that someone might "really feel alive" in a setting that is so centered around needless death, destruction, greed, ambition, power, and purely wrongheaded inhumane objectives as is this war of Bush's. Perhaps there is something about extreme human suffering that causes us, or at least some of us, to feel "really alive". You say he returned as a contractor, and there is no detailed information regarding that fact, but I also have difficulty feeling good about the profit motive that possibly exists for that return (perhaps profit is not his motive).

Regardless, I see a direct correlation between the frivolousness of the media in not covering events in Iraq, and your friends SEEMINGLY frivolous regard for the plight of Iraqis whose lives are being destroyed while he satisfies his need as an "adrenalin junkie".

I hope your friend returns safely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 AM on 04/05/2008
- Gibbons See Profile I'm a Fan of Gibbons permalink

Winston Churchill once said there is nothing quite as exhilarating as being shot at and missed. That was after he had been shot at and missed in the Boer war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 04/05/2008
- bluewhite See Profile I'm a Fan of bluewhite permalink

"The Bagdad Lottery.." was a well-written article, in the best tradition of journalistic commentary. Ms. Langlois puts a human face on the absurd and awful conflict over there. We don't have to agree with Jack's personal motivations or politics to be struck with the tragedy and irony and futility of war that his predicament exemplifies. I'd like to see more stories such as this one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 04/05/2008
- rixhex56 See Profile I'm a Fan of rixhex56 permalink

I agree that this article is well-written. I sought to point out how, as this well-written article subtly implies, even some of the soldiers fighting this disastrous war seem to not take it all that seriously at times. My belief is that some who read this article will likely not recognize that point, and I sought to bring it to the fore. Like you, I would like to see more stories like this one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 04/06/2008
- Thorn See Profile I'm a Fan of Thorn permalink

You're welcome.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 04/05/2008
- SamThornton See Profile I'm a Fan of SamThornton permalink

Our military and State Department have been very effective in controlling and limiting the information coming from both Iraq and Afghanistan. It's part of what they call their "Information Warfare" operations. It's an operation directed not at our enemies but at you and me. What information does get out is, more often than not, shaped to fit some stateside political objective. See, for example, a copy of the Strategic Communications Plan accidentally released by our Embassy in Baghdad in December 2006: http://tinyurl.com/2urho3 (scroll down for the document).

Among the more reliable sources for news about what's going on is the foreign press, including the BBC, AFP, Al Jazeera, Asia Times Online, Spiegel Online and a few blogs by Iraqis who are still in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 AM on 04/05/2008
- SamThornton See Profile I'm a Fan of SamThornton permalink

Just a brief example of the foreign press coverage you won't see in the US press. Think the surge is working in Baghdad? Read this article from the English language edition of France 24: http://tinyurl.com/2f9new

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 04/05/2008
- researcher See Profile I'm a Fan of researcher permalink

they go for excitement and it looks like they are getting it. the iraqis are giving us a slow bleed. they will wear us down in deaths and money spent on this illegal war.

most americans are imperialist and many are war mongers. the super power called the united states is about to be brought to its imperialistic knees.

americans dont like a long drawn out war but a fast win to fill their pride of being a winner and superpower.


we are a bankrupt country living on borrowed money. that will end soon when the euro becomes the world currency. corruption has its price.

the rest of the world sees us for we are are. at least bush found his evil empire. he looked into a mirror.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 04/05/2008
- Clinton See Profile I'm a Fan of Clinton permalink

Good post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 04/05/2008
- Foryourconsideration See Profile I'm a Fan of Foryourconsideration permalink

At our UU church, we have a candle ceremony. You light a candle and speak into the microphone so all can hear - common topics are children's birthdays, pleas for healing thoughts for illnesses, the occasional rant, enlightening moment, etc...

An Army Captain did a candle of healing for one of his soldiers who had committed suicide after coming home - the young soldier couldn't leave the war in Iraq. Here's a link to the audio -

http://atouchingcandle.blogspot.com/

Click on "Coming home from war is hard for soldiers."

More people need to hear first-hand accounts in order to understand the true evil of the war in Iraq, and the toll it is taking on soldier's and their families. Thanks for sharing this post.

I'll light a candle for Jack's safety - The light of one candle illuminates the darkness in some small way, and I do think our hopes, especially combined, can create a better way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 04/05/2008
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