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Tanya M. Acker

Tanya M. Acker

Posted: August 17, 2010 04:04 PM

Shame on you, Harry Reid

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When I heard about the "split" in the Democratic party between Harry Reid and President Obama regarding the building of the mosque near Ground Zero, and as I listened to Senator Reid voice his objections to the mosque, my first thought was that the Senator should know better.

While tight elections often give rise to such craven political pandering, Harry Reid is a member of a faith that is barely a generation out of religious persecution itself -- a faith that is not one-fifth as old as Islam, and whose adherents have at times embraced both racial segregation (prior to 1978, Mormons did not allow African-Americans to be ordained to the priesthood) and the taking up of arms against the United States government.

Indeed, 144 years before the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center - but also, coincidentally, on September 11 - over 100 American settlers (including unarmed men, women and children) were killed by Mormon militiamen who were then engaged in open rebellion against the United States.

I mean neither to disparage Mormons, nor to advance prophetic conspiracy theories about the historical significance of September 11, nor to play the numbers game about how many people have died at the hands of various religious adherents. Nor am I suggesting that we adopt an ostrich in the sand approach regarding the dangers posed by Islamic extremism (including the extremists among our ostensible "allies," the Saudis).

I note only that we walk a very slippery slope when we begin to conflate the lunatics on the fringe with law abiding believers of any faith - and the insult that is being perpetrated upon our American-Muslim countrymen (many of whom have taken up arms for this country in the course of the two wars in which we are now engaged) is something that should give us all pause.

Among this country's foundational principles is the notion that those of minority (and sometimes unpopular) faiths are entitled to the free expression of their faith without being unfairly targeted or singled out for discriminatory treatment by the government. I would hope that we would be as committed to that principle in 2010 as we were at the time of the country's founding.

I recently had a conversation with an opponent of the mosque (whose construction is near Ground Zero and not actually on the site - another interesting confusion of facts in which its detractors have continued to engage) who, after comparing the mosque to a casino and arguing that "religious freedom" was not at issue, sought to reassure viewers that she was not in favor of tearing down Islamic houses of worship.

Well, that is certainly a big relief. Good to know that in the United States of America we've drawn the line at burning down the places where people choose to pray.

I think we would all agree, however, that our standards should be a bit higher.

Editor's Note: This post has been updated to more accurately reflect the Mormon Church's history regarding African Americans

 

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BoyInBOYCOTT
01:42 AM on 08/19/2010
Let It Be - Beatles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9SgDoypXcI
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BoyInBOYCOTT
01:11 AM on 08/19/2010
As someone who knew my Mormon great grandparents who lived in the Territory of UT, Harry Reid perplexes me as someone who can't see their faith was violently kicked out of 4 states before they settled OUTSIDE America in what would become UT. I lived through Minneapolis red-lining both Jews and Blacks from living or worshiping in parts of the city, and I lived through little girls killed in Black churches being bombed.
How could ANY faith be willing to go back to ANY of that?
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BoyInBOYCOTT
01:02 AM on 08/19/2010
I don't care if it's a rabbi contributorat HuffPo, Harry Reid, Howard Dean or most Republicans

This scapegoating Muslims is sickening, and so is the over glorification of the WTC rubble as hallowed ground. It's the site of a horrible cowardly attack on America, and a deep tragedy for thousands, and it was intended, and suceeded in terrorizing All Americans. It's still NOT hallowed ground, and this nostalgia of what it was and what it wasn't, is an ugly pre-election GAME unworthy of any of us.
I recall LGBT survivors as the ONLY people who had to FIGHT for any share of the donations ALL Americans gave. I recall Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson SPITTING on women, gays/lesbians, and the ACLU for the attack....2 days after the attack.
Muslims DECIDE where they build or improve properety.....PERIOD
EVERY denomination and aethiests should unflinchingly STAND with this congregation of Muslims in NYC, as an Ecumenical Council demanding Religious Freedom for ALL.
09:24 PM on 08/18/2010
Harry Reid calling for an end to "anchor babies"...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqyeb-5ZfEc&feature=player_embedded
His hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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Carolyn LeBeauf
09:04 PM on 08/18/2010
I concur. Shame on you HARRY REID. i THOUGHT YOU WERE BETTER THAN THAT. I guess I was wrong.
07:14 PM on 08/18/2010
As a lifelong Democrat, I am troubled by the new manner with which my party debates issues. When I supported Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination, I for the first time (and by members of my own party) was routinely called a "racist." When, during the general election, I hesitated again to vote for Obama who opposes equal rights for gays (I am gay), I was again called a racist. Time after time during the past two years, I have seen Democratic spokespersons on tv, accusing anyone who disagreed with the President's health care position of the moment or his decision to keep Guantanamo open of basing their decisions on the President's race. Now, we come to the New York Mosque. As a New Yorker, I have an opinion. I oppose the location, but not the construction of the Mosque. Not good enough for my party. I am still a bigot and anti-Muslim. All these issues can be debated on merits. Is the health care plan as good as it could be? Do we really want Guantanamo still open? Is a Mosque in that location a good idea? But, Democrats seem a lot like Republicans (they used to say all dissenters were unpatriotic). Democrats don't argue issues on merit anymore. We just smear people as racist or bigoted and leave it at that. Perhaps it means that we are worried about the rightness of our argument when we try and silence dissent. Judge for yourself.
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Tanya M. Acker
08:14 PM on 08/18/2010
Thanks for reading and for your comment - but I hope you are not suggesting that I am simply "smear[ing] people as racist or bigoted and leav[ing] it at that." I am disappointed in Reid because he SHOULD know better, being a member of a minority faith. (If you are taking issue with my pointing out certain aspects of the history of the Mormon church, then I will simply say that history is what it is and speaks for itself.) But in any event, I very much appreciate your input. Best - tma
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KARMA
04:56 PM on 08/18/2010
In this world, should we say 'Shame on Harry Reid' to fight the force's of evil? Should we [stone] a woman to death to do what she has to do to feed her family? No! Is it right? No. Once we realize the difference between the container and the 'Contents', we will have knowledge.
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parlimentMike
Don't settle for less evil, demand good
11:14 AM on 08/18/2010
Why did the Democrats in the Senate think Harry was the man to lead them? The aptly named Yogi said that 90% of the putts you leave short don't go in. It's funny, we didn't hear how hard it was to marshal the Senate when they were passing laws facilitating and enabling the shift of America's wealth to the wealthy, and the destruction of our economy.

We apparently fooled by the previous Senate leaders who could do the job, into thinking the job could be done. It seems to be the case with an increasing large part of America, the leaders are getting more and more money for telling us they can do less and less.
08:41 PM on 08/17/2010
However, Reid's Reno office did receive many calls from GOP constituents applauding his efforts. While I disagree with his comment (and agree with Obama), why would you do this in a state where he won't lose any votes from democrats and gain some from the other side of the aisle? Unfortunately, this statement isn't how it should be, but in a reelection year, I don't blame him.
07:31 PM on 08/17/2010
Your article has factual errors.

You said, (prior to 1978, Mormons forbid African-Americans from joining their church"

African Americans before 1978 were able to JOIN the LDS church. The 1978 ban was on male black members receiving the priesthood.

1. The Mormon church after the ban was probably one of the first churches to have an African American bishop leading a white congregation.

2. The church was and is ANTI-SLAVERY. This fact plays into one of the reasons Mormons were killed in Missouri and driven out of a state which was deciding between free and slave state status around the time Mormons showed up there.

There was a Mormon war in Missouri, against state people and the state army. The Utah War that you are referring to had no battles. You had a people that were tired of turning the other check and being pushed around. Mormons turned their back on a federal government that wouldn't protect THEIR LIVES AND RIGHTS all over the US. Even when Mormons met with the US President asking for help and protection. Thus to say all this stuff, you kinda failed to mention the extermination order against Mormons. Missouri made it legal to kill Mormons that didn't leave the state. Mormons were ghastly slaughtered at Hans Mill. Mormons were raped, killed, and property taken when they were forced out of Missouri.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haun's_Mill_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_order
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Tanya M. Acker
09:14 PM on 08/17/2010
Thank you very much for your comment. And you are absolutely right - I erred in suggesting that the LDS banned African-Americans from Church membership prior to 1978 - African-Americans were instead banned from the priesthood. And while I apologize for that error, I would respectfully submit that it is a distinction without a difference, as the fact remains that up until 33 years ago the Church discriminated against congregants (and potential congregants) on the basis of the color of their skin.

With respect to the Utah War, while it is true that it had no official "battles," the massacre that I referred to on 9/11/1857 did in fact occur (the "Mountain Meadows massacre"), and the Mormon militiamen who killed the settlers originally blamed the assault on Native Americans: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre.

But equally important are your points about the persecution of Mormons, which are completely well-taken. In fact, it was EXACTLY that to which I was referring when I said that "Harry Reid is a member of a faith that is barely a generation out of religious persecution itself." This country's persecution of Mormons was, indeed, despicable - and it is, in part, because of that history and his presumed familiarity with such religious persecution that I am so disappointed with Senator Reid. Thank you again for responding and for your input. Again, apologies for confusing the Church membership and priesthood issues. Best - Tanya M. Acker
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Tanya M. Acker
10:08 PM on 08/17/2010
And just so that I am completely clear - I am also aware of the fact that while the Mormon militiamen who participated in Mountain Meadows were dressed as Native Americans, they were also aided in that assault by certain (actual) Native Americans. (In other words, I am not suggesting that they acted alone). And thanks again for reading. -tma
06:27 PM on 08/17/2010
I agree with Obama that Muslims should be allowed to build a mosque on ground zero. I feel bad for Reid, he is in such are hard position right now. I know you said that you didn't "mean to disparage" Mormons but you did. I find it funny that people always like to point out the bad in Mormons instead of focusing on the incredible amount of tolerance they display. For a people who were killed by mobs, were forced to leave America, and who constantly receive negative press, they demonstrate an amazing amount of tolerance toward America and the press. But overwhelmingly, the press talks about the three sins of Mormonism: polygamy, blacks and segregation, and the Mountain Meadow Massacre. Mormons have faced more negative press about polygamy then protestants have over slavery. Both were ended at the same time, but for some reason Mormons can't shake it like protestants have. Maybe next time you write an article, try to say something nice about Mormons. They really are a nice people.
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Tanya M. Acker
09:28 PM on 08/17/2010
Thank you for your comment. And I certainly don't dispute that Mormons are "nice people." My point was instead that any group that has endured religious persecution should know better than to perpetuate it and further, that many faiths have had unfortunate chapters in their religious histories. I mentioned Mormons only because Senator Reid, I contend, should have been more sensitive to the issue of religious discrimination. But again, I thank you very much for your comment. Best - Tanya M. Acker.