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Taryn O'Neill

Taryn O'Neill

Posted: February 15, 2010 04:17 PM

View From The Ice: How Figure Skating Should've Been Judged

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Yesterday evening, I was lucky enough to attend the pairs short program at the Pacific Coliseum. It was pretty interesting watching an Olympic skating event take place at a rink I know so well and used to skate at occasionally.

I watched all 20 couples perform their short program, starting with the famous Chinese couple Shen and Zhao who have just returned to the sport after retiring two years ago. (See? Not just football QBs can come out of retirement.) They skated a clean program and scored the best marks of the evening. But I would have had them third, despite the fact that they posed for picture with me.

The German team deserved to be first. Their program and elements were the strongest (though I loathed their costumes -- 'Send in the Clowns' is not a song about clowns actually -- ask Catherine Zeta Jones who is currently singing it on Broadway in A Little Night Music).

The Russian team of Kavaguti and Smirnoff should be in second. They are youthful, talented and exquisite, and I was fully moved by their performance.

Shen and Zhao should be in third. Skating first and coming off of retirement, I just think the judges over scored them. Their program was clean and strong but did not resonate with the audience and I didn't see anything 'new'.

With regards to my Canadians, Langois and Hay should have fended off Dube and Davidson for the sixth position. Though they didn't have the triple twist, their program was fantastic and gave me a jolt of Canadian pride.

Both American teams gave strong skates and the crowd loved them almost as much as their home team, well almost. They all have bright futures ahead of them.

By the way, coaches and choreographers? I suggest you hire someone who knows something about music in the future. Skating to a piece composed by Hans Zimmer is a good thing. Skating to a techno version of Carmen is not. The British team skated to a version of Linkin Park's 'Numb' which made me smile -- even if the program was pretty devastating.

But overall, great job skaters! I remember the days when doing side by side double axles was a big thing, let alone pair skaters with good extensions. Now the short program has everyone doing the triple salchows, throwing triple loops and employing expression worthy of the Bolshoi Ballet.

Can't wait to see the free skate tomorrow night and see who brings it! And you all have to bring it, you have nothing to lose.

 
Produced by HuffPost's Eyes & Ears Citizen Journalism Unit Yesterday evening, I was lucky enough to attend the pairs short program at the Pacific Coliseum. It was pretty interesting watching an Oly...
Produced by HuffPost's Eyes & Ears Citizen Journalism Unit Yesterday evening, I was lucky enough to attend the pairs short program at the Pacific Coliseum. It was pretty interesting watching an Oly...
 
 
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08:21 PM on 02/16/2010
I do not understand your comment that Kavaguti and Smirnoff should have been second after the short program. Their routine was marred by mistakes, it was listless, and they have a chronic inability to finish their elements with conviction. The fact that they scored as highly as they did is ridiculous, and it continues to reveal the bogus nature of figure skating judging. For too many years the Russians/Soviets have "owned" this discipline, and it is tiresome. Congratulations to the Chinese, who took three of the top five places (and goodbye, Russians)!
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McMarcia
06:31 PM on 02/16/2010
Taryn O'Neal wrote "Their program was clean and strong but did not resonate with the audience and I didn't see anything 'new'."

Resonation with the audience and showing something "New" is not how scoring works. They are scored on the elements they performed, how well they performed them, and how well they integrated their moves with the music. I felt they were the most musical, they had tremendous speed on the ice, and they executed all their moves beautifully.

They quality of the moves they performed well in the long program meant they had high enough scores to compensate for the wonky landing on the side-by-side jumps, the lack of synchronicity in the side-by-side spins and the wonky landing on the overhead lift.

If Pang & Tong had just scored 3.5 points more in their long program, or in combination with their short, they would be olympic champions.
12:35 PM on 02/16/2010
Figure Skating, like Moguls, should not be Olympic sports. They are not sports, they are acrobatics. Olympics are about higher, stronger, faster, not about some guy or girl judging which costume was best, or who performed a triple Salchow best. That might be a beautiful performance, but it is just that, it has nothing to do with higher, stronger, faster.
Compared to the Speed Skating competition for example, Figure Skating does not even qualify as a sport.
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McMarcia
06:34 PM on 02/16/2010
then you also have to eliminate ski jumping, Nordic Combined, synchronized swimming, rhythmic gymnastics, traditional gymnastics, equestrian events, individual diving, team diving, freestyle skiing, halfpipe snowboarding, among others.

Arguably, you could also eliminate short track speed skating, because judges are disqualifying so many for their supposed elbows, pushes and other moves.
09:10 PM on 02/16/2010
I think that all of those events aside from short track speed skating should be removed from the Olympics. If you need a judge to decide who won then it is not a fair compitition. TYhose activities are not higher, stronger or faster. They are activities put into the games so that the upper classes can win a medals at something in the Olympics. They are not true sports.
12:33 PM on 02/16/2010
Thanks for checking out this post- it's ironic how half of these comments are pertaining to the opinion that skating SHOULDN'T be an Olympic sport. I will admit my bias as competing at the Olympics was one of the reasons I started skating but I also feel most viewers who believe this don't understand the sport behind the glitz and glamor of skating. I wrote on this on one of my websites:
http://tarynattheolympics.tumblr.com/post/389659973/in-defense-of-sequins-and-spirals
Hopefully HuffPo will post my review of the Pairs final last night- Though making an unusual error on their lift, I think Shen and Zhao were well deserving of the gold. Save for the other Chinese pair Tong and Pang, it was a mess of a night for the competitors.
10:19 AM on 02/16/2010
not sports
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TheRealThunderMonkey
02:15 PM on 02/17/2010
In regards to the performance and training, I would put in on par with any other sport (even more than auto racing, golf and bullriding).

However, where it falls short for me as a sport is the relative suggestive scoring that falls at the mercy of the individual scorer. Also, the skaters are limited as to what they can and cannot do.

If they're good at something, they should be able to do it. You don't tell your starting quarterback not to throw the ball deep in the fourth quarter because the other quarterbacks are incapable of doing it themselves.
10:11 AM on 02/16/2010
My heart just breaks when someone falls, so much work and practice, and then such disappointment. Are there more falls in these competitions than in years back? Or am I just not remembering? Or is there far too much Cirque du Soleil involved in the programs, and what is required in the programs? I think I rather see more lyrical skating than so much throwing into the air....
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McMarcia
06:37 PM on 02/16/2010
I agree, would like to see more emphasis on good spinning (not necessarily pretzel positions with your ankle twisted around so you can smell your own foot), good footwork and limit the jumps and twisty exits to lifts.

The scratch spins from the 50's and 60's just cannot be duplicated today. I look at film of Dorothy Hamill or Janet Lynn spinning in the 70's and can't believe their good posture, positions and speed compared to today.

What would men's skating look like if they limited them to just 1 quad and 5 triples? force them to rack up points doing other things!!!
04:36 AM on 02/16/2010
In my opinion, this system is much better than the scoring system that was in place during the 2002 Olympics. I don't like to second guess the judges because they are able to review and slow down the skate they just saw. They are also in a position to see the edges and probably other things I can't see on my television. That being said, I thought Shen and Zhao deserved the gold and was happy for them. I wasn't creeped out by the clown outfits at all, in fact, I thought they were better than some others I saw.

Looking forward to the men's short programs tonight.
12:58 PM on 02/16/2010
you sound like a soul who watches skating more than once every four years..
02:28 PM on 02/16/2010
Yeah... I love figure skating.
I used to watch old Sonia Henie movies, was a Dorothy Hamill fan. I fall in and out of love with it depending on who's skating. I was a big fan of Michelle Kwan and loved when she re-introduced the Charlotte Spiral. I'm not very interested in the women this year but will watch anyway.
12:18 AM on 02/16/2010
Shen & Zhao were better than the German team because of the complete integration of their "trick" moves with their overall program. There was a unity and consistency that showed in their absolute synchonicity of jumps and spins. They were magical, absolutely magical. A pleasure to watch from beginning to end. A seamless connectivity that was never broken through their entire program.

The Germans may have been harmed by their costumes, but more importantly they weren't synchronous at significant points in their program, and the connection between elements was considerably less than that of Shen & Zhao. I actually think the line-up of one-two-three is correct, but definitely some teams with falls were overmarked, so places 4 through 9 aren't actually representative of how well the teams skated.
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magicmary
11:21 PM on 02/15/2010
You have to be a disciplined ATHLETE in top physical condition and the ability to work through pain to be a figure skater. Just like any other competitor in the Olympics. I'd still watch them if they were in team uniforms instead of costumes. I agree, those clown costumes were creepy but they were the best skaters of the night.
09:14 PM on 02/15/2010
Ms. O'Neill...do you think you might be a little biased? Every pair has a back-story, but Shen and Zhao were the best of the bunch. I was so glad I have digital cable so I could rewind and watch it over, it was so beautiful it brought tears to my eyes. The combination of their synchronicity with the music, with each other, and the program with the music was all superb and better than any other pair that I saw (though we did not see all 20 pairs on tv).

I thought the top 3 were well scored, but the Americans were scored too low and the Russians and Ukranians too generously. Neither of the American teams had a fall, and yet 2 teams were placed ahead of them that had somebody's ass on the ice. Not fair.
08:30 PM on 02/15/2010
No event involving costumes should be.

And speaking of costumes, it must be Putin who designed those cruelly unflattering electric blue unitards sprayed onto the Ukrainian team.
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cplKlyde
08:18 PM on 02/15/2010
Ice skating shouldn't be in the Olympics at at all.
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Aranxa
12:54 AM on 02/16/2010
Agreed, it can't touch a sport like curling in it's level of athleticism and skill.
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05:10 AM on 02/16/2010
I enjoy ice skating the most out of the winter olympics line-up, but I agree that it probably shouldn't be in the olympics. It's a mixture of art and athleticism - like ballet. but ballet isn't in the summer olympics.
12:24 PM on 02/16/2010
What about the synchonized swimming? Isn't that in the Olympics?

IMHO, spinning and jumping for 5 minutes coupled with footwork and choreography is just as demanding as other sports.

Hope that Stephan Lambiel captures the gold. Reminds me of Toller Cranston of Canada. If not Stephan, I hope one of the Americans captures the gold.

Not fond of Plasheno's overall presentations...