American First, Democrat Second

Posted January 25, 2008 | 02:41 AM (EST)



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by Taylor Marsh

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I have to ask people attacking Bill Clinton, which has become the cool thing to do everywhere, if his politics is "old" why has Barack Obama and his campaign been engaged in the same type of politics since the beginning (from June 2007, D-Punjab, or Obama's false charge that Bill Clinton made money on 9/11). This from a campaign whose propaganda touts being the "politics of change." Why is Hillary Clinton's campaign held to one standard, with Obama held to another? And as far as labeling a Democrat running as a Republican, Paul Waldman points to the wrong Democrat. This type of argument is permeating the political landscape right now on both sides of the aisle. It is not winning any points with me. In fact, both sides have me looking for an exit.

Rush Limbaugh once again showed his disdain for veterans and military heroes, when on his show yesterday he let fly this swiftboating slur against John McCain:

I want to hear from Senator McCain on his opposition to tax cuts. I want to hear the domestic side, and I would hope that he would speak loudly and openly and honestly about his domestic record, not spin it, certainly not deny it, but give Republican voters in Florida some straight talk on the record. He can surround himself with the Schwarzkopf and the generals and so forth and the POW stuff, which we all admire and respect. ... ..

McCain can surround himself with the Schwarzkopf and the generals and so forth and the POW stuff. Seriously? "POW stuff." John McCain almost died through torture by our enemies during a war in which he excelled in bravery. Obviously, Rush Limbaugh has decided that not only will he swiftboat John McCain on tax cuts, something that McCain is for and has proposed though with spending cuts too, but Limbaugh will take down a brave veteran who almost died for this country to do it. All for Romney, Slick Mitt Romney, who was pro choice, pro gay rights, pro government funded health care, and who is buying the Republican nomination? This is how low the Republican party will stoop to take down a veteran who has a mind of his own. There's a reason Romney's own can't stand him, but Rush and the other wingnuts on radio will prop him up, using a gallant veteran to do it. Rush Limbaugh's attacks on McCain's suffering for his country are unconscionable. No veteran deserves the Rush military treatment, which happens every time a veteran or soldier dares to have an opinion for him- or herself. For that cowardly, boil on his butt, draft dodging blowhard to utter that McCain can "surround himself with the Schwarzkopf and the generals and so forth and the POW stuff," and have his listeners and the conservative base applaud, sickens me. It is nothing short of anti-Americanism. I say this as someone who disagrees with McCain on just about every issue, minus torture and veterans aid.

It's part of the reason so many Democrats don't understand what I do around here and on radio, especially when covering the Democratic primary race, so let me lay it out for everyone.

I'm an American first. I will not support my party no matter what, or someone in my party who is doing what I believe is horrendously destructive things to the ideals I hold dear. I have no intention of stuffing my beliefs back in a bag in the name of party unity. On this I stand with the Founders who weren't all that crazy about political affiliation. I have absolutely no intention of backing someone who believes Republicans were the party of ideas for the last 10-15 years. As a Reagan Democrat, I know that dog whistle, baby, and I'm running in the other direction. Someone who takes Democrats for granted in order to reach out to independents and Republicans to get the Democratic nomination holds no sway over me. It's also not my job to unify the Democratic party. And anyone who can say that Reagan transformed the political landscape over Bill Clinton scares the ideological crap out of me, and I say this knowing all of Bill Clinton's shortcomings. But they don't come close to Reagan's. As a recovered Reagan Democrat, I know this all too well.

What is missing in the alarming nature of Barack Obama's comments about Reagan is that Obama's defense today is packaged in propaganda. That doesn't seem to matter, because most everyone is lapping it up. But anyone wanting to be honest about his pandering Reagan shtick in front of the Reno editorial board will have no choice but to admit that he was saying that Republicans had the ideas of the last 10-15 years, while Bill Clinton's presidency did not, in order to get their endorsement in hopes of winning Nevada. Nobody mentions this part of it. Obama's sycophancy over Reagan got him into this mess. He was hoisted on his pandering petard and rightly so. If you think standing up for President Clinton's presidency is wrong in the face of what Obama said then you don't understand the harm the Reagan administration did to this country, or what Clinton meant to many. The wingnuts didn't target Bill and Hillary Clinton for eight long years for nothing.

As for Bill's "old" politics, as Howard Wolfson rightly said in a long, spirited media conference call yesterday, which happened right after my radio show, Obama's campaign has been running a "sub-rosa campaign against Bill Clinton" for a long time. Now it's out in the open. Are the Clintons not supposed to respond? Are Democrats who believe in our ideology not supposed to take offense at Obama's Reagan usage in order to win? Hillary said Democrats will be united in November. Obama said he knew he could get Hillary supporters, but he wasn't sure she could get his supporters. That's because Mr. Obama is taking Democratic primary voters as a gimme, while hoping independents and Republicans will hand him our nomination. After all, Democratic primary voters will always vote for the person with the "D." Sorry, no sale here. I believe our ideology should be represented by a nominee who doesn't run from it to be all things to all people, so if our nominee can't sell our great ideas then maybe we deserve to lose. Obama seems to be saying that our ideas aren't strong enough to win on their own, so through the magnetism of his personality we will prevail.

A lot of people seem concerned that we won't all be able to come together in November. That some points shouldn't be made because it's targeting a fellow Democrat. That being a good Democrat is what's important. Or that I'm going after Obama just because and only because I'm a Clinton partisan. If that's the case you don't understand who I am and what I do, which is likely my fault for not being clearer about it. That's the purpose of this post in part. My job is not unification of the Democratic party. So when I see a fellow Democrat who wants to be our nominee putting Reagan up as an example in order to win a certain state, while dissing the only two term Democratic president since F.D.R. in the process, excuse me if I'm not impressed. I'm also not so stupid as to believe the talking points of the press and other so called commentators and political writers who are excusing it by helping to parse Mr. Obama's words, putting forth Obama's supposed real and actual meaning of what he meant when citing Reagan. He got caught pandering, using Reagan as the high mark in order to get another win under his belt, and he used Bill Clinton to make the point, because he thought the people he was talking to preferred Reagan over Clinton. Everything else is just noise.

In addition, all this blather from Obama surrogates that Bill Clinton is "lying" about Obama on Iraq is being offered without one specific example of what Mr. Clinton lied about. As I've written many times, Obama did take his 2002 speech of his website. Obama and Clinton have the exact same votes on Iraq. He's done nothing in the leadership department to get us out of Iraq. The talking point that he's some big anti war leader on Iraq is simply fantasy. It doesn't matter what Ed Schultz, Claire McCaskill, Tom Daschle or Patrick Leahy, all of whom are Obama supporters, say. Nothing Bill Clinton said about Obama on Iraq is factually inaccurate. Having Ed Schultz yell louder than someone else on "Hardball" doesn't make it so.

The Republicans are taking out after McCain, with the likes of Rush Limbaugh using language that not only swiftboats a fine veteran on the most critical issue to Republicans, taxes, but he does so with an insulting, anti military, egregiously disdainful attack on a man who almost died while he was a POW. I reject this type of politics and I will come to McCain's defense in light of it. This isn't about politics alone when people stoop to this level. It's about decency and morality, of which Rush Limbaugh has neither.

Democrats have a main contender for the nomination of the party who touts Ronald Reagan in order to get an endorsement and to court conservatives, while trashing the only two term Democratic president since F.D.R., while simultaneously saying the first viable female candidate to have a chance at being commander in chief may not be trustworthy enough to handle secret intelligence. Contrary to what some believe, this isn't just some petty intra-party squabble among leading Democrats and progressives for me. It's a philosophical point of no return; a line in the sand that has been crossed, which makes me reject Barack Obama for putting it into the political bloodstream all so he could win Nevada. Just as he ran to the Christian Broadcasting Network to question whether his supporters would back Clinton, Obama's divisiveness belies his "politics of hope." That he would also use Reagan, plus wingnut talking points on national security to target the first viable woman commander in chief, puts in question for me the importance of nominating a Democrat like this just to put our party in power in November. It was Obama that got us into this situation not Hillary Clinton. It's making the case that someone of questionable ideological intent, because he has a "D" attached to his political affiliation, should get a pass, and that doing otherwise renders me a bad Democrat. Well, then call me a patriotic American instead, because I will not be party to such wholesale sell off of what I hold dear.

I have been a Democrat for a very long time, a proud liberal, or progressive if you prefer, ever since I learned the realities of Ronald Reagan after becoming a Reagan Democrat in 1980. But I have been an American for a lot longer and to that I owe my original allegiance. When I hear a fellow Democrat again trumpeting Reagan's name all I hear is a high pitched whistle. I am not here for the glory of some faint notion of progressive unity. I'm sacrificing, as is my husband, financial security, our future economic security, and every hour of my waking day to put this country on a new path. Regardless of someone claiming to be a Democrat, I will not fall in line for the sake of unity for someone who puts Ronald Reagan above Bill Clinton, and uses his campaign to attack, malign and misrepresent a president that with all his faults, gave his very best for his country, left it in thriving economic health, with our reputation around the world at its highest, with middle class people everywhere in better shape than when he arrived. I also will not support anyone who casts aspersions on a woman running for president by implying she cannot win his supporters, or that she can't be trusted with secret intelligence, a right-wing talking point about Democrats that goes back to my Reagan Democrat days when the GOP let loose with the line that Democrats were "soft on national security," something they've been selling ever since.

I'm a proud Democrat, but I'm an American first. If you want unity you've come to the wrong place.

 
 

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- vsign See Profile I'm a Fan of vsign permalink

I think the new technologies are propelling an untested man with a "voice of authority" that brainwashes people, onto the world stage. I feel like it's germany when the german people suspended judgement for a leader who they thought could win, and paid terrible unintended consequences.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 02/02/2008
- research See Profile I'm a Fan of research permalink

You act like there is a whole lot of difference between the remaining dem candidates.

All three candidates are thick with the Lieberman DLC.ORG crowd and their PNAC.info credo: "we have a big military, let's use it."

While I will vote for the dems, assuming no good independents are winning, I fear that GE and the rest of the war proffiteers have won this election already.

People watched Plutocrats select the acceptable candidates and reject any true populist candidates, but people refuse to see it.

The dem primary process is broken. Caucuses are undemocratic. NH and IA do not represent the country and the debates should be open to all candidates on the ballot.

Finally, Diebold and friends count the votes, and the MSM "adjusts" the exit polls to match.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 01/27/2008
- rwilliams1961 See Profile I'm a Fan of rwilliams1961 permalink

Geez, Taylor. You holding up ok after SC? A good stiff... drink might help.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 01/27/2008
- floydSmoot See Profile I'm a Fan of floydSmoot permalink

Any honest democrat would admit that Bill Clinton moved the party significantly toward the middle (aka to the right) by coopting conservative ideas. To pitch him as the liberal democrat now is BS.

And please, the Clintons as victims? Give us a break.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 01/26/2008
- NoFactsJustTruth See Profile I'm a Fan of NoFactsJustTruth permalink

"...writers who are excusing it by helping to parse Mr. Obama's words, putting forth Obama's supposed real and actual meaning"

Writers unlike YOU, you mean??

Uh huh,...it's MUCH better to just repeat the LYING 180-speak talking-points of the Clinton campaign for the 'real and actual meaning', ANYTHING else is 'un-American'...


Now THERE'S a steaming shovel-full - of something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 01/26/2008
- feelfree See Profile I'm a Fan of feelfree permalink

Why doesn't ever say the word Democrat or talk about the principles of the party?

Tonight he sounded like an independent. He never mentions a single Democratic accomplishment or principle.

Is he a Democrat or is he an Independent?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 01/26/2008
- Nutcase See Profile I'm a Fan of Nutcase permalink

The Republicans have had ideas. It is just that they are the ideas that Adam Smith and most of the Founding Fathers were criticizing 230 years ago.

cognito ergo populistae

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 01/26/2008
- drblack See Profile I'm a Fan of drblack permalink

Anyone who thinks Obama was praising Reagan wasn't listening very closely or has limited comprehension.
Obama was saying that the GOP with Reagan was a successful political movement, like FDR was for the Dems.
Where did obama praise Reagan? What specific ideas of Reagan's did Obama say he would carry on with? He did neither.
If Obama and Clinton don't get their asses back to Washington and help block the un-Constitutional, Soviet, Red Communist China like "Protect America , througn spying on Americans Act then they don't deserve to be President.
ANYONE who supports the Protect America Act Through spying on American the Un Patriotic Act are not fit to be Americans at all.
When will politicians, and Americans get back to the core American value of absolute Individual Freedom. (the absolute is in Free to do to oneself whatever...not free to do to others absolutely)
Edwards is the best candidate for Progressive Americans now that Kucinich has dropped out.
Hillary is 100% sold out to corporate interests just as Bill was.
Bill Clinton is as overrated by dems as Reagan is by repubs.
The Clintons would have been considered moderate republicans before Reagan.
A vote for Hillary is a vote for moderate republican ideas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 01/26/2008
- OhPlease2007 See Profile I'm a Fan of OhPlease2007 permalink

BREAKING: ABC News - An Additional $100,000 in Rezko-Linked Contributions Not Returned by the Obama Campaign

Jan 25, 2008

"[ABC News] has identified an additional $100,000 in contributions made to Obama from Rezko's associates that have not been returned, including $19,500 in contributions from Rezko's wife and employees of Rezko's business enterprises. The ABCNews.com review includes individuals who have been linked to Rezko in news reports, court documents and public records."

Is this the 'honest change' that we were all supposed to believe in??? What a joke. This is just more politics-as-usual from a Washington D.C. insider 'pretending' to be the change candidate. If I had a dollar bill for every politician that has espoused change on the campaign stump, I'd have a pile of money taller than I am!

In my opinion, Obama fails to exercise a 'reasonably acceptable level' of good, honest, and fair judgment, which speaks directly to the character question. This is but just one more reason -- among many -- why I will never vote for Obama.

Taylor, thanks for the tip!

Source: ABC News(ABCNews.com Review Shows an Additional $100,000 in Rezko-Linked Contributions Not Returned by the Campaign, AVNI PATEL and REHAB EL-BURI, Jan 25, 2008)

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4192358&page=1

Edwards '08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 01/26/2008
- DemandTruth See Profile I'm a Fan of DemandTruth permalink

Thank you for this. I am a very intelligent person (IQ 165) and a writer. I am smart enough to know what one is saying when I hear a quote, and I was very offended by Obama's comments about Reagan. Chris Matthews can bluster and spittle that we're imagining it all he wants and excuse it away, but I know what I heard and the images in my head Obama's words conjured. When Obama spoke of Reagan enacting "change", I saw a little Reagan climbing to the top of the White House to remove the solar panels. That's the "change" his words conjured in my mind, that I now associate with Obama.

To me, the problem is not so much Republican vs. Democrat. It is corporate-owned lackey vs. non-corporate-owned lackey. Republicans are owned lock, stock, and barrel by corrupt corporations so a vote for them is right out! However, I also believe Obama AND Clinton also owe quite a bit of allegiance to these groups. I have been and always will be an Edwards gal. Let me end with a quote from Edwards here (because nobody else will - certainly not the media) about the Obama/Reagan dust up:

"When you think about what Ronald Reagan did to the American people, to the middle class to the working people," said Edwards.

"He was openly " openly " intolerant of unions and the right to organize. He openly fought against the union and the organized labor movement in this country. He openly did extraordinary damage to the middle class and working people, created a tax structure that favored the very wealthiest Americans and caused the middle class and working people to struggle every single day. The destruction of the environment, you know, eliminating regulation of companies that were polluting and doing extraordinary damage to the environment."

"I can promise you this: this president will never use Ronald Reagan as an example for change."

A vote for John Edwards is a vote for yourself.
GO JOHN GO!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 01/26/2008
- NABNYC See Profile I'm a Fan of NABNYC permalink

This raises an interesting point. Which should come first? Party? Country? Or personal gain?

The Clintons reportedly had total assets of $600,000 when they left the white house, and now have $35-$50 million. How could anyone get that much money in 7 years? Well, if you look at the financial disclosures which Hillary is required to file, you will see that Bill Clinton has been given millions of dollars by the largest multinational corporations inside and outside the U.S. What exactly does Bill Clinton have to sell except favors from his wife if she does become president?

Bill and Hillary Clinton have demanded that they be given the title of Top Dems, the King and Queen. Yet during the past 7 years they both have supported the Bush Regime in most of its illegal and disastrous policies including the shredding of the constitution, denial of habeas corpus, authorization to kidnap, torture, and murder, detention without counsel or trial, the claim of entitlement to nuke any country at any time if we feel insecure. Tax cuts for the wealthy (which now includes the Clintons) and outsourcing of American jobs.

So, again, what is the priority of the Clintons? While Americans are losing their jobs, being thrown out of their homes, and unable to pay to heat their homes because of the Bush policies, what was Bill doing? Yachting with Daddy Bush. What was Hillary doing? Scheduling photo ops with Newt Gingrich. Making alliances with Rupert Murdoch.

And during this campaign, everything we have seen from the Clintons consists of lies, deceit, racism, vile attacks on Democrats while sucking up to their Republican friends (Hillary Hearts McCain).

Hillary Clinton is a Republican. Wake up people. Vote Edwards or Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 01/26/2008
- SEQUOIABISON See Profile I'm a Fan of SEQUOIABISON permalink

More lies and distortions about what Obama said regarding the republicans.

He Never, Ever, Ever, said they had good ideas, he said we should learn a lesson from the last president to win in a landslide. Reagan.

Bill only won his election by 43 percent of the votes, not exactly an overwhelming majority.

If Perot were not running papa Bush probably would have won a second term.

Obama kick ass in SC the world is waiting for real change not republican lite change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 01/26/2008
- Rexy See Profile I'm a Fan of Rexy permalink

It sounds to me, Taylor, like you're having a difficult time dealing with the fact that you were a 1980 Reagan Democrat. But rather than take the responsibility yourself, you find it easier to distort what Obama said about Reagan so you can punish him. That's a nice rationalization, kind of a painless penance for your own bad choices and piss poor reasoning.

In fact, you're as misguided now as you were in 1980.

By the way, Alan Greenspan recently called Clinton the best Republican he's ever dealt with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 AM on 01/26/2008
- researcher See Profile I'm a Fan of researcher permalink

mc cain fought in an illegal war does that make him a hero. they had no right to torture him but that does not give him a right to be called a hero maybe brave but not a hero.

what would happen if we had one of these illegal wars and no one showed up to fight and we sent the pres to fight.

bet the illegal wars would come to a stop.

I am younger then mc cain and my memory is suspect. two things go with old age and one is your memory. the other? well thats another story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 AM on 01/26/2008
- LiberalBeliever See Profile I'm a Fan of LiberalBeliever permalink

I'm with you Taylor Marsh.
Barack Obama, as President, sends shivers down my spine. I haven't a clue what the man stands for or what he would do if elected. And I don't think he has a clue either. He's just riding this wave of love and hope and rah rah rah.
God help the Democratic Party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 01/26/2008
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