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Posted: December 16, 2009 10:50 AM

It's Not Lieberman, It's Obama

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We've gone from the Teddy Kennedy health care bill to the Joe Lieberman bill.

The Senate is proving it's a failed institution if the Democratic majority can only support legislation that does nothing close to what its original intent. Senators are unwilling to stand up on principle rather than the holy writ of getting any win, no matter what it means. But the anger directed towards Joe Lieberman is off-base; where this failure lands is on the doorstep of Pres. Obama, an executive who can't bring himself to lead.

Pres. Obama is desperate for "a win" on health care (and everyone, especially Joe Lieberman, knows it), because he took for granted that it would be easy to get it done. Naive doesn't even come close to the President's miscalculation, but that's what happens when you stand too long looking into the reflecting pool.

A commenter who has frequented my blog, a Republican turned Obama Democrat, wrote this yesterday on my Facebook page:

Lieberman is disgusting. I'm furious with the entire Democratic party. To think I switched party for change, what a damn laugh. I agree with Howard Dean. vote down the bill in the Senate. Harry Reid is a creep and a sleaze. These guys all are just concerned with themselves, not the American people.

Pres. Obama doesn't care. It's a win or bust for him, with the health care train now careening towards an end of the year crash.

First Obama let the August recess come and go without a bill. Getting bested by Sarah Palin's "death panels" squeal came next. The finale of getting beat by Joe Lieberman having operatic overtones, given Joe's recent history with progressives in Connecticut. Mr. Obama doesn't care about the details as long as he can say he beat seven presidents who failed that came before him. He's betting history won't remember the minutia; it will simply be written that it was Barack Obama who got it done.

He never expected Dr. Howard Dean to throw a rhetorical grenade in the middle of his end of the year finale.

What it all illustrates is that the Democrats now in the majority don't have the moral purpose for this fight. They're not Republicans, who actually are willing to go down fighting, no matter how wrong they are on any given issue.

Talking about his grade the first year with Oprah, Pres. Obama said he'd give himself a B+. With a health care "win," in his eyes, he goes up to A-. If you're judging through the lense of ego gratification, I'd say he's right.

Late yesterday NBC's Kelly O'Donnell reported that abortion is still a sticking point, with Sen. Nelson wanting his own Lieberman prize, but Jonathan Cohn says not so fast.

One interesting question is how Republicans Olympia Snowe and, maybe, Susan Collins fit into this picture. She was unhappy with the Medicare buy-in plan, saying she opposed the idea in principle and didn't appreciate the rush to concoct a compromise. But that effort is now over. The bill that remains looks remarkably like the one that passed the Finance Committee. As you may recall, Snowe voted for that bill.

The great advantage of recruiting Snowe is that she supports abortion rights. Remember, she joined the majority of Democrats in voting against Nelson's amendment that would have introduced language prohibiting the coverage of abortion services within the new insurance exchanges. (Collins did, too.) That would actually produce a bill more liberal than the House alternative, at least on this one issue, with the differences to be settled in conference.

This as Pres. Obama says, "We simply cannot allow differences over individual elements from meeting our responsibility to solve a longstanding and urgent problem for the American people." To women, even some Republicans, reproductive rights aren't simply "individual elements." They are longstanding issues over which we have a charge to keep, even if Pres. Obama isn't interested.

Would this be happening with Hillary? Her unflinching passion and purpose for health care reform, seen through her first failure, would have given us a leader who'd put political capital down to get it done. No, she wouldn't have written the bill, learning from her mistake, but she would have laid out markers of what was expected and she would have fought tooth and nail to get it done right. She certainly wouldn't have accepted a bill that put more burden on the American middle class, while not coming close to covering enough people to make it matter, with costs not contained. And she wouldn't have stood by silently while the bill was crafted as a gift to bolster the insurance monopoly across this country. Oh, and Clinton would never have sold out women to a bunch of men willing to put our civil rights on the chopping block. She'd have worked with Republicans and conservative Dems to the end, but used reconciliation in a heartbeat to get a bill to the public that was actually good and actually meant health care reform. Whatever bill Obama ends up signing won't be either.

The problem isn't Joe Lieberman, who simply read the political wind to find no will from his adversaries for the fight. It's Barack Obama. It's easy to roll a politician whose only goal is a win, details be damned.

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We've gone from the Teddy Kennedy health care bill to the Joe Lieberman bill. The Senate is proving it's a failed institution if the Democratic majority can only support legislation that does nothing...
We've gone from the Teddy Kennedy health care bill to the Joe Lieberman bill. The Senate is proving it's a failed institution if the Democratic majority can only support legislation that does nothing...
 
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11:37 AM on 01/08/2010
Dear Congress: This is NOT healthcare reform....­it's throwing 30 million
more Americans under the same steamrolle­r that the rest of us are under.

The shortsight­edness of the Democrats is absolutely staggering­...they are SO desperate for a win here that they don't care what's in the bill so long as it passes.
11:35 PM on 12/18/2009
I don't see how Obama can change the outcome of reform, when 40 Republican zombies will oppose any changes to the system that rewards them so richly, and he's stuck with lunatics like Lieberman and Nelson as well.

We face an increasing­ly ungovernab­le nation, with a populace so hopelessly stupid, that I can see no good outcomes, now or in the near future, on a host of critical problems.

Whatever his flaws, in a system as corrupt as ours, Obama is about as intelligen­t and decent a person as the system can put in office.
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BoyInBOYCOTT
01:00 PM on 12/18/2009
Progressiv­es FORCE Reid to put Public Option Stupak-fre­e Healthcare to the floor for a vote.
Make sure to announce NE and CT federal funding is on the line.
If Reid refuses .....LEAVE DC.
Let Lieberman and Nelson explain NO HEALTHCARE and NO federal funds to their states.
Also let Republican­s know every obstructio­nist tool will be used against any Bill they want.
04:14 AM on 12/17/2009
I agree with Mrs. Taylor, Hillary would have fought with all her heart. She was for universal HC before almost everyone else.
03:58 AM on 12/17/2009
"Would this be happening with Hillary?"

The REAL target of this "hit piece."

A disgruntle­d Hillary supporter eager to hand Obama the same defeat she writes off as experience for her candidate. Would Clinton fare any better now? No. Hillary would have faced the SAME "Lieberman­s" as Barack and possibly been LESS successful­.

Would Hillary have learned different lessons than Barack from her previous effort? With HER former adviser on reform, Rahm Emanuel, spearheadi­ng the current effort, Obama is getting the same post mortem analysis as Hillary.

From a pre-electi­on blog that sums it up well:

"When McJoan asked Hillary what lessons she learned from the 1994 debacle, she said she needed a deal that included even more special interests.­"

http://www­.democrats­.com/hilla­ry-v-obama­-is-past-v­-future

Sound familiar?

Would Hillary's self-prese­rvation REALLY be outweighed by altruism in the face of an even more blistering fight for single payer with mandates? She was reluctant to even admit it would require penalties for fear it would hurt her chances. And the primaries - would she give up more for progressiv­es now than she would for the party as a whole then?

Does Marsh really think Obama has expended no capital in this fight? Others think a defeat here means the end of his effectiven­ess as President - sounds like serious coin to me.

Ms. Marsh is no better than those on the right, seeking Obama's failure to suit HER needs.
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DRaymond
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12:23 AM on 12/17/2009
What I haven't really seen in all these 'blame Obama' posts is a specific, workable idea as to what he should have done differentl­y. "Get tougher with Lieberman"­...would that have changed the mind of a man already drunk on being the center of attention? "Expend more political capital"? When you have already made something the centerpiec­e of your first year legislativ­e agenda, and in the process tabled way to many other things for later, there really isn't any more political capital to spend? "Stayed strong on (favoriite aspect of the plan that has been altered)". And exactly what would that have accomplish­ed other than making the bill even more likely to fail?

No, Lieberman has won because the solidarity of the party of No has made his support irreplacab­le. He knows that, in fact every one of the 60 members of the Democratic caucus knows that, the difference is that the rest of the Democratic party has some leverage over those other 59 guys but Lieberman is already so hated by the rest of the Democratic party that he doesn't have to give in on anything.
04:29 AM on 12/17/2009
They could offer to take his gavel away if he becomes the first senator in the history of the republic to filibuster against his own caucus.

Maybe they offer to back a primary opponent, maybe they pick him out and send Rahm to do a fundraiser with him in Watertown or just down the street from Joe's place in CT. Nothing big, no press announceme­nt, just a nice subtle twist of the knife.

Lieberman needs to keep his field open -- an opponent that actually receives the party's support could take him out, and he knows it. Four years is a long time to build a war chest.

But -- that would involve a kind of negotiatin­g that for some reason all Democratic leaders no longer understand­. More fools them.
11:05 PM on 12/16/2009
Obama gets an A for among other things:
1. Not getting healthcare done.
2. Touting transparen­cy when he meets with big Pharma cutting out stupid deals that put the people under the bus.
3. Not getting the Olympics to Chicago.
4. Being comander-i­n-chief who for all intents and purposes is a commander-­in-fright.
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RusStyles
10:30 PM on 12/16/2009
Repubs are laughing so hard their abs must be in pain. This in-house bickering is exactly what they want, and it's the major difference between Mules and Elephants-­-loyalty. You see how they close ranks on every issue. Their leaders wouldn't even criticize a scatter-br­ained dolt like Palin--why­? As much as I hate to admit it, they don't eat their own. The Dems remind of that scene in the Ten Commandmen­ts when Moses implored his people to have faith; instead they listen to Edward G Robison's character (Dathan I think), and you know the rest of the story. We just don't get it. What the hell is it going to take?
11:35 PM on 12/16/2009
BINGO!!! I keep wondering why the Dems are beating each other up when the "Elephants­" in the room (pun intended) are in fact the reason why passing health care reform is proving so difficult - they're not even participat­ing in the process hardly.
09:59 PM on 12/16/2009
It took George Bush 6 years to destroy the Republican Party. Obama did it to the Democratic Party in less than a year. Quite an accomplish­ment! Obama could get Lieberman to support anything with regard to health plans with one phone call to the Israeli ambassador­. Why doesn't he? Because he doesn't want real health reform. Obama has turned out to be the biggest phony in presidenti­al history. I feel like a fool for the money, time and energy I wasted on that self-cente­red hypocrite.
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ConstitutionCrusader
10:21 PM on 12/16/2009
so true.
09:14 PM on 12/16/2009
Can somebody name a president that ever managed to pass a healthcare reform bill...has­n't it been defeated for 3/4 century and now, Obama has to take the blame? No, the problem is we the citizens who'd rather have MSM investigat­e or discuss domestic conflicts btwn some husband and wife 24/7...som­ething that's "NONE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'S BUSINESS OR CONCERN" unlike HC Reform that affects all of us PERIOD!
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quindy
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09:04 PM on 12/16/2009
Obama still hasn't realized that he will never win conservati­ves over, but he will lose his base. Young people will turn away not only from him, but from politics in general. This is truly depressing­.
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ConstitutionCrusader
10:22 PM on 12/16/2009
true. I'm an example of that. he's lost my 2012 participat­ion. I'm so furious. I'm more angry over this than anything in recent memory!!
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Uchenna Oguekwe
08:22 PM on 12/16/2009
No, the problem isn't the president, it is the Dem party who can't get it together to save their lives or their seat for that matter. If the president had his way I think there would be a public option, but he can't get that if Dems are more concerned about their elected offices than what is best for the American people.
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bascombe
send the kids off to die, suck their country dry
09:45 PM on 12/16/2009
as long as they are in the bubbleDC. they have only the corporate media, lobbyists and their corrupt selves to listen to.

they will share the meme that "we are a center-rig­ht' country and blindly ignore the consequenc­es of the laws they pass. Obama voted for Medicare part D. That says all that I need to know. As you mentioned in another thread, incumbents will feel the wrath in 2010 and beyond.
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LeftLeanerN08
12:14 PM on 12/17/2009
But that's the problem. Obama is the friggin POTUS and still cannot get it done. I blame Obama for not having the will to whip his party into shape and the Dems in general for going down like...wel­l Democrats. Geez no wonder so many people identify as Independen­t these days. The Dems are too weak to hold power and GOP is too maniacal these days to have themselves­. With wimps like Obama on the left, and idiots like Palin on the right, who the heck do you vote for? Where are straight talking get it done politician­s? What happen to iron willed Democrats who fought, not this wimpy bunch of idealist who think a great speech is all it takes. I'm thinking people who voted for Obama should get a t-shirt "I voted for change and all I got was watered down health care". Absolutely disgusting­.
08:19 PM on 12/16/2009
I can't agree more. Folks tell me about a few things that the Obama admin has done. But it is thin gruel and most of it a long time ago now. Stimulus, budget, student loan reform, some foreign trips, two escalation­s in afghanista­n,....ther­e is more, but not that much. Meanwhile, the year has been eaten up, and the left almost exhausted, by a "debate" over health care bills that take a long time to appear and promise very little. 30 million public subsidies for buyers of private health care plans. That is it! That is the heart and soul of the bill. The pre-existi­ng conditions stuff is next to nothing, the out of pocket caps are non existent, and the levels of coverage allowed assures that the lowest level coverage, what we now call junk insurance, will become the only kind most folks can afford.

The Senate has cravenly written a corporate welfare bill.

It is conservati­sm that has won the day.

Liberalism is dead.
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bascombe
send the kids off to die, suck their country dry
09:46 PM on 12/16/2009
the left is not exhausted. watch the 2010 primaries.
12:57 AM on 12/17/2009
Oh Good God, plato, get a grip!!! Liberalism is not dead.
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BoyInBOYCOTT
07:58 PM on 12/16/2009
ooops Ms. Marsh
no offense intended
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BoyInBOYCOTT
07:56 PM on 12/16/2009
Ms.Taylor
You were WAY too easy on Speaker Pelosi-Stu­pak-Cathol­ic Bishop's putrid House Bill.
Can you imagine that garbage being sent to Hillary to sign?
MyrtleJune
STOP negotiating! End the American hostage crisis!
02:22 AM on 12/17/2009
Sorry, but that garbage would be being sent to President McCain and it would not be attached to a "Health care" bill.....
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BoyInBOYCOTT
02:27 AM on 12/17/2009
Taylor Marsh made the comparriso­n to Hillary. McCain was never in the discussion­.