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Thom Hartmann

Posted: December 15, 2008 11:47 AM

Thom Hartmann Defends the Auto Workers on Countdown


Appearing on Countdown (yesterday with David Shuster), Thom Hartmann defended the unions and the workers, calling Republican refusal to help the auto industry an attempt to break the unions and calling our current economic crisis the direct result of Reaganomics.

A key exchange came at the end...

Shuster: How do we return to a country that's based on actually making things [what I call "wealth-creating jobs"]? I mean, what does President-Elect Obama need to do when he gets in office to wean our economy off of these made up financial games and get back to real manufacturing?

Hartmann: David, what he needs to do immediately is read Alexander Hamilton's 1791 report to Congress on manufacturers. Hamilton laid out this six-step plan to build an industrial economy in the United States. And, we followed it. Congress actually put it into place in 1792 and it stood until Ronald Reagan came along and started deconstructing this, followed by George Herbert Walker Bush, Bill Clinton and George Bush, now, and the legislatures, mostly pushed by the Republicans, taking this thing apart. I mean, you could argue that some it started with Taft-Hartley. But, basically, the Founders laid this thing out; they had it figured out. And, it worked. We built the biggest industrial infrastructure, industrial economy in the world. We have gone -- when Reagan came into office we were the largest exporter of manufacturing goods and the largest importer of raw materials on the planet. And, the largest creditor--more people owed us money than anybody else in the world. Now, just 28 years later, we're the largest importer of finished goods, manufactured goods; the largest exporter of raw materials--which is kind of the definition of a third-world nation -- and we're the most in-debt of any country in the world. This is the absolute consequence of Reaganomics.


Appearing on Countdown (yesterday with David Shuster), Thom Hartmann defended the unions and the workers, calling Republican refusal to help the auto industry an attempt to break the unions and calli...
Appearing on Countdown (yesterday with David Shuster), Thom Hartmann defended the unions and the workers, calling Republican refusal to help the auto industry an attempt to break the unions and calli...
 
 
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01:44 AM on 12/30/2008
America needs more Thom Hartmann! I have learned more from this man than just about anyone. His radio show is terrific, and educational without being condescending. He can make topics that are normally hard to understand, very easy, and he is particularly learned on American history, especially concerning the founding of this nation.

People like Thom make you want to fight for the promise this country used to have.
06:04 PM on 12/20/2008
Thom Hartman is awesome. I love his show. Very knowledgable, enlightning and informative...I wish I had him as a political science professor.
02:11 PM on 12/17/2008
I thought Shuster was villager
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RedneckDem
The top 1% stole my made in china bootstraps
02:04 PM on 12/15/2008
How much clearer does it take for a point to be made before your typical repub's sense of reason outweighs their ideology? It just doesn't seem to be sinking in. The only reason that can be is that other minor issues outweigh even their jobs or future.

Hartman's "Last hours of ancient sunlight" was awesome! Like the economic writers on Huffpo, Hartman backs up his opinions with facts, historical data and reason.
03:24 PM on 12/15/2008
Help for connecting the dots:
". . .By 2011, Toyota's cost advantage over Detroit could disappear. "The Japanese automakers have been here for almost 30 years," says Michael Robinet, an analyst at CSM Worldwide, a Northville(Mich.)research firm. "They'll start to have BigThree-like costs creeping in."
. . .by late 2009, Toyota's 23-year-old assembly plant in Georgetown, Ky., where most workers are at the top of the pay scale, could have the highest labor costs of any auto factory in the U.S. . . "I think [the Detroit automakers] could easily equal us or even exceed us in terms of having lower labor costs," says Pete Gritton, human resources chief for Toyota in North America.
. . .GM. . .has 74,500 workers. By 2011 GM will have about 68,000, and up to one-third of them will be earning the lower wage. . .If GM can get all the buyouts it needs and hire cheaper labor to replace them, the company could cut its wage bill by $2.7 billion annually by 2011, he says. That adds up to $841 a car. . .A retiree health-care deal. . .should save GM an additional $699 a car. That would turn Toyota's labor cost advantage. . .of $1,394 per car to a $108 disadvantage by 2011"
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_17/b4081038999094.htm?chan=magazine+channel_news
Corker was insistent on moving up the date the UAW would lower wages because Toyota will actually be losing money, IF Detroit is allowed to survive.
01:42 PM on 12/15/2008
Thom Hartmann is extremely knowledgable about these things. It's just too bad most Americans are incapable of reason and critical thought.
01:07 PM on 12/15/2008
Thom Hartmann is right to trace the present Detroit situation to Reagan's firing of the unionized airline traffic controllers. The war on unions that The Gipper started may finally be coming to an end. And the U.S. workers should thank UAW and their spokesman, Mr. Gittelfinger. It's a good start for workers in America.
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ScapeGoat
Facts are stubborn things. Science Rocks!
12:25 PM on 12/15/2008
Thom knows his stuff! He is a student of history, economics and politics.