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Make It Stop

Posted: 06/21/11 10:53 AM ET

It's no secret that the rock scene can be a straight-male-dominated, testosterone driven, hyper-masculine place (Please see Sammy Hagar's Livin' It Up! In St. Louis DVD). The explosion of the Riot Grrrl scene in the 90s adeptly illuminated these problems and, to a degree, the immediate punk scene within spitting distance took heed. But that movement alone was not the magic bullet to rid rock of its inherent biases.

It was in the wake of these progressive movements in music that our band, Rise Against, was born. We started in the punk-rock basements of Chicago, chock full of cultural deviants just like us. While our souls will always dwell in those musty subterranean holy grounds, we woke up one day adopted by a much broader rock fan base. Our audience now contains those who cast their nets a bit wider than just Minor Threat and Black Flag. We started playing shows bigger than I'd ever attended as a fan, to people I'd never thought would ever listen to our music. I was introduced to a mainstream, commercial rock scene, in all its natural splendor and
gross inequities. I found hungry ears and some open minds. But I also found a place that all too often harbors homophobes and perpetuates homophobic behavior. I found a fire that needed water.

Just last September (2010), the headlines were plastered with a wave of gay (or gay-perceived) teen suicides. Tyler Clementi, age 18, was a gifted violinist at Rutgers University. After his roommate secretly set up a webcam to film him during a sexual encounter, he threw himself off the George Washington bridge. Seth Walsh, a 13 year old who had bore the brunt of harassment at his school, hung himself from the plum tree in his backyard. These events, along with a few questions from our own fans about where we stood on gay rights, created the spark that would bring life to our song "Make It Stop (September's Children)." We were happy to team up with the "It Gets Better" campaign and director Marc Klasfeld to then create the accompanying music video.

Bullying, in many forms, may always exist. Assholes are born everyday. But much of the bullying that takes place today is trickling down from a culture and a media that gives credence to the hateful rhetoric that clogs our streets and airwaves. As Americans, it's time to connect the dots between the deaths of teenagers and the people and organizations that are
part of the problem. When the song says "make it stop," it's talking to the parts of society that would hide behind euphemisms like "family values" to justify bigotry. When it says "let this end," it's addressing hate-filled TV networks that masquerade as news stations. And of course, "Make It Stop" is here to let our own audience members know that if they would make a fellow concertgoer feel unwelcome at a Rise Against show, then perhaps it is they who are not welcome at a Rise Against show.

Going from punk dives to arenas was kind of like moving into a new apartment. It's pretty nice, but in order to live here I'm gonna need to clean up the dirt and paint a few walls. When I can't decide on a color, sometimes I just paint stripes of each one.


 
It's no secret that the rock scene can be a straight-male-dominated, testosterone driven, hyper-masculine place (Please see Sammy Hagar's Livin' It Up! In St. Louis DVD). The explosion of the Riot Grr...
It's no secret that the rock scene can be a straight-male-dominated, testosterone driven, hyper-masculine place (Please see Sammy Hagar's Livin' It Up! In St. Louis DVD). The explosion of the Riot Grr...
 
 
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10:46 PM on 06/28/2011
This is why I love Rise Against.
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Dorothy Smith
What to say. A professor of Sociology. Independen
09:50 AM on 06/25/2011
All bullying should stop. As Prof of Soc of Aging and a member of Clinton Co. Office of Aging advisory committee, we are working on the issue of "senior bullying." Commonly noted in Senior Centers, Sr housing and assisted living. "cliques" as in hs. Residents, mebers alienated, ignored, not welcomed and the list goes on.
Not to ever discount bullying among our younger population. Class discussions noted some members "bullied." Others, were "tormented" as one student wrote..
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03:52 PM on 06/24/2011
Great job Tim & Rise Against! Another impressive effort to use your art to get your fans and others to think a bit more about how we're living our lives. In addition to "Help is on the Way" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHiqGqoIGII you guys are really making a difference with this album.
09:06 PM on 06/22/2011
In a forthcoming law review article to be published in the University of Maryland Law Journal of Race, Religion, Gender, & Class, law professor David Groshoff references this song from Rise Against, along with Korn and several other musicians in an excruciatingly detailed and highly controversial analysis of anti-gay bullycide and hostile schoolground violence. For those interested, the professor has allowed for a pre-publication draft of the article to be downloaded free of charge at the Social Science Research Network: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1782056
07:24 AM on 06/22/2011
Bullying?

Just listen to Rush. Or Hannity. Or Limbaugh. Or Savage. Or Boortz. Etc. (they seem to be endless!)

Bullying? One of the two major political parties in the United States is dedicated to the used of bullying. Why shouldn't it be acceptable in our schools? Half of our electorate thinks is just a wonderful thing.
01:34 AM on 06/22/2011
Bullying is now sadly everywhere ....it's about power and the way people use it. Bullies have taken on a new form ( not just the school yard bully ) but also the bully in the workplace, the marriage, the entertainment industry and more. Gone are the days of whats " simply unacceptable and what's simply wrong "
We have allowed the good old basics of respect for each other to be analyzed stretched and re shaped to somehow now accept and live in this dangerous new attitude. Bullying is not comedy nor should be taken lightly . Bullies are more concerned with being right than doing right. We should not turn a blind eye on this problem of Bullying.....it's growth is one of the worlds/peoples most shameful problems.
07:34 PM on 06/21/2011
good thoughts, all ... but 'progressive' and 'punk' are not exactly cohabitants of the same world -- think SOD "Speak English or Die", or Black Flag "Slip It In"
08:13 PM on 06/21/2011
....says the person with the fishbone logo...a band that was punk AND progressive. this is what makes rise against stand out; their bravery to challenge everyday norms, like homophobia. growing up with bands like the clash, dead kennedys, crass, bad brains, and minor threat. of course there are a lot of bands who pushed the scene in a negative direction, but for me, the punk movement has always been about inciting progressive thought. but really, that's not the important issue in this article and in the song.
11:25 PM on 06/21/2011
LOL -- touche ... guess I never really considered Fishbone (or Bad Brains) as part of my "punk" collection

I still think you may be pushing the term 'progressive' by including the Clash and Dead Kennedys ("too drunk to f&$k"?) ...

... agreed, "punk" philosophy is not exactly the subject of the article.

I guess I was just picturing Sid Vicious ranting on about the evils of bullying ...
07:51 PM on 06/22/2011
Bad brains? Tough to use them as an example of using music to bring people together, particularly as it relates to homophobia
05:10 PM on 06/21/2011
We could add surveillance to our public schools and buses to track this kind of behavior but it would require adults to do work and they really hate that. Besides teachers need privacy to do the unprofessional things we ignorantly decided were not needed to keep classroom in order. In order to cover their behinds they can't permit us to really see what goes on in schools all day. There is no reason in this age of modern technology that we can't have a record of every event that takes place on school property outside of the toilet.
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Anarchy4hire
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05:26 PM on 06/22/2011
my girlfriend is a teacher...perhaps you could enlighten me to these "unprofessional things" that she does...seeing as how you know exactly what goes on in schools
10:02 PM on 06/24/2011
That is an awful idea. What would you like our kids to turn out as? Mindless zombies living in constant fear of doing something wrong. Tell me your kid has never done anything wrong when you're watching over them. You can't protect them from everything and shouldn't. Something like what is talked about in this song should be noticed by someone. I'm guessing there have been kids that witnessed this and felt a moral obligation to do something. They probably had no idea what to do. We need to teach our children empathy not watch over their every move. "We've all been sorry we've all been hurt but how we survive is what makes us who we are"
GHO
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04:49 PM on 06/21/2011
Nice to know we can always find something new to blame on FOX news, the un-named bogeyman of the piece.

Please...bullying is the result of insecurities in the bully brought about by situations in their own lives (and usually the faul of their parents), not because of anything Hannity, et al said that kids never heard anyway because they don't watch the news or listen to talk radio. Kids have been bullying other kids forever and for whatever reason they can come up with - too tall, too short, too fat, too thin, too smart, too dumb, uncoordinated, wears glasses, speech impediments, homsexuality (real or perceived)...and the list goes on.

I applaud the author and his band for wanting to do something about it, but look for real answer, not the hackneyed "blame FOXnews" answer.
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beadingchef
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02:55 AM on 06/22/2011
No where in the article was Fox news mentioned, he spoke of hateful rhetoric and that they we no going to permit it at their concerts and were promoting a safe web sight for young gay people to know that they are not alone. In my opinion they were giving a real answer not not blame, perhaps you might also try doing that.
07:27 AM on 06/22/2011
I invite you to sit down and make a list of the five or ten traits of 'bullying'.

Then listen to your right wing friends on radio for one day.

If what they do constantly, daily, is not 'bullying', then up is down and war is peace.
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04:32 PM on 06/21/2011
I always loved Fugazi for pausing their shows when people in the crowd got violent or abusive, to ask them politely to calm down, even having them escorted out with a refund if needed (and also for their music obviously!). I know Rise Against has been a long time supporter of many progressive causes, so thanks for being another band with a conscience! (and your music's great too!)
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darquelourd
You Get What You Play For
03:58 PM on 06/21/2011
punk rock and bullying ... is anyone old enough here to see an "irony"?
02:45 PM on 06/22/2011
I'm old enough to have been a Clash fan for 31 years, and I'm old enough to know that they've been a driving force behind politically-minded rock for longer than that. Not all us "punks" were bullies... just the opposite, in fact. I don't know about where you grew up, but punks in the Midwest were often the focus of bullies in the early and mid 80's.
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Marisa Stein
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04:56 PM on 06/23/2011
really? I thought they were mostly oi bands, they used to beat up anyone who wasn't the same as them..get it
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02:52 PM on 06/21/2011
Kudos! Good column.

I agree. Our culture makes "heros" out of bullies, particularly those in politics.

Chris Christie in New Jersey is maybe the best example of this. Take a good look at Christie. He looks like someone who likes to intimidate, shout people down, threaten them and push everyone around.

And he obviously likes being this way.

But the biggest problem with Christie is a media and a culture that enables his repulsive and sociopathic behavior. We continue to read stories about how people "admire" Christie's bullying tactics and "tough guy" act. It only encourages more Christies and their predatory, repugnant ways.

So, we all have to stand up to bullies, in the schoolyards, in our workplaces, and in our government. Bullies must be dealt with appropriately and we can't allow anyone to sanction their behavior, out of fear or for any other reason.

And the latest poll numbers for Chris Christie demonstrate that his bullying act may be getting old for most voters.
02:32 PM on 06/21/2011
For women, the bullying does not end with junior high or high school. Just watch any episode of "The Housewifes" Middle Aged Women Bullying Other Middle Aged Women is entertainment. Until all of the grown-ups stop rewarding this type of behavior we will have a long way to go.
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Marisa Stein
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04:57 PM on 06/23/2011
it's not just women, grown up men are the worst they bully more than women do..I think women are just catty
01:48 PM on 06/21/2011
If you would follow the pendulum both ways, I would say that Hollywood and most of MSM is farther left than Fox is right.
03:02 PM on 06/21/2011
And your post, besides being erroneous, has what to do with the content of the article?
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wernerholm
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05:53 PM on 06/21/2011
that was supossed to be "themselves"
01:34 PM on 06/21/2011
I don't know how we would learn to cope with life if we weren't bullies from time to time. Like it or not, we learn from these sort of confrontations.
05:25 PM on 06/21/2011
meant to say "bullied" ...
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10:23 PM on 07/07/2011
As someone who has literally been tormented and bullied all of my life, and has tried to commit suicide as a result, I can not disagree with you more. There are better ways to learn.