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Advice for Teachers' Unions

Posted: 06/08/2012 10:54 am

In Shaun Johnson's latest blog he wanders into the minefield surrounding teachers' unions. Like Shaun, I support the idea of unions. However, at this point in time I think we need to openly criticize the unions for their inability to counter the "adults first" narrative and how -- at the leadership level -- the teachers' unions are complicit in the corporate takeover of our public schools and therefore selling out both children and teachers.

First, teachers' unions have been absolutely horrendous in demonstrating how collective bargaining benefits children.


Second, the teachers unions have sold out to the corporate reform movement that will eventually dismantle our public school system.

Last year, after governor Walker took away collective bargaining rights for teachers and Wisconsin exploded, the local media (here in Central PA) contacted me to set up an interview to discuss the issue of collective bargaining. They wanted to know why teachers should be "entitled" to a contract that was collectively bargained. It was a very simple interview for me. I explained how collective bargaining allows teachers to negotiate for the conditions that create an environment that supports learning. Such things as working conditions, class size, teaching resources, aids, and planning time all benefit children. Even when it comes down to salary and benefits the ability to bargain for a fair wage benefits helps children. Teachers (in order to teach powerfully) need to have some feeling of economic stability. This should be common sense. Teachers that have the resources, time, small class sizes, and economic stability make better teachers. What parent doesn't want a better teacher?

However, what I am dumbfounded by the most is the almost 15-year reciprocal relationship the unions and the corporate reformers have cultivated. Think about not advocating for what's best for teachers and children. This is what our unions have done by supporting the Common Core curriculum and Value Added Measurements (VAMs).

The Common Core curriculum will usher in an era of testing and teaching to tests that will make the last ten years of NCLB seem like recess. And as many others have pointed out, there is absolutely no evidence that doing this will make teaching and learning more powerful. In fact, the Common Core curriculum and the "next generation assessments" will create an atmosphere of paranoia and anxiety that will damage the entire teaching and learning process. This is not good for children and teachers.

What about VAMs? What do we know about these statistical models that are supposed to show how much "value" a teacher adds to a child's learning? According to the experts (not the reformers) they just don't work. They have a reliability problem and some have error rates that exceed 40%. Why would the union support using VAMs in teacher evaluations? Isn't it obvious that this is just wrong? Think about the conditions that will exist in our classrooms when teachers start to look at children as data points instead of learners in need of a caring teacher. This is not good for children and teachers.

So what should a supporter of unions do when the unions fail to communicate effectively with local communities and endorse corporate driven reforms that will simply devastate public schools? It is going to take individual stands from union rank and file members -- openly challenging union positions that do not support children, teachers, and communities.

Rank and file members must first help their neighbors understand that collective bargaining benefits the children and the community school. When children and schools benefit, the entire community thrives. Union members must insist that union leadership take a strong stand against the Common Core curriculum and the use of VAMs. These corporate reforms will not only hurt the profession, they will hurt children and community public schools. Union members must then insist that the unions protect members that take these individual stands.

If the unions don't protect individual stands, then what good are they? Along with good working conditions, we need to be focused on the principles associated with powerful teaching and learning. We need to reclaim our schools for the children and families they serve. When we do this, our neighbors that don't get it might come to understand that a strong teacher's union means a strong community school in which powerful teaching and learning thrives. How is this not a benefit for children?

 

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In Shaun Johnson's latest blog he wanders into the minefield surrounding teachers' unions. Like Shaun, I support the idea of unions. However, at this point in time I think we need to openly criticiz...
In Shaun Johnson's latest blog he wanders into the minefield surrounding teachers' unions. Like Shaun, I support the idea of unions. However, at this point in time I think we need to openly criticiz...
 
 
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foresure
Brash and Harsh
01:11 AM on 06/10/2012
Ultimate question:

If teachers are overworked, underpaid, and tortured, why don't the sell their immense skills to another emplyer?

The answer is NOT for the love of children.
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MarcEdward
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08:21 PM on 06/10/2012
Most teachers leave after a few years teaching. Not that many stay around for 30 years.
03:09 PM on 06/11/2012
Wow!
11:40 AM on 06/14/2012
Half of all new teachers will leave the profession within 3 years.
07:28 PM on 06/11/2012
I've read that the average teacher experience now is very few years. Most the teachers I know are trying to leave the profession because it is being turned into a Wal Mart profession thanks to Obama and Bush
foresure
Brash and Harsh
12:57 AM on 06/10/2012
If public school teachers are really concerned with children, why have they not demanded that every school provided every student, with no means test, a free breakfast and lunch?

a) Because they believe it is irrelvant whether children are hungry or not. It has nothing to do with learning.

b) Teachers are not responsible for the welfare of children.

c) Teachers are afraid that spending money on feeding children witll reduce the amount of raise they get each year.

d) Feeding children represents change, and therefore potentially more work for teachers.

e) More research and grant money is needed to determine if hunger has a detrimental effect on learning or not.

f) All of the above.

e) All of the above.
02:26 AM on 06/10/2012
How are you coming up with these claims? You seem to be making a very harsh and naive generalization, only set on antagonizing teachers.
foresure
Brash and Harsh
02:24 PM on 06/10/2012
Silly:

Yes, as a true teacher, you respond by bullying and defensiveness.

Reallly if the job of teacher is poisoness beyond belief, why to these wonderful people stay with it?

Why is it apparent that the Unions could care less about educated children, but are compulsively focused on raises, without accountability to all teachers?

Got a respnse?
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MarcEdward
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08:23 PM on 06/10/2012
Schools do provide free lunches in my area. Where DON'T they provide free lunches?
Why should schools pay for a free lunch for well to do kids? Heck, who wants cafeteria food? My kids make their own dang breakfast and lunch EVERY DAY.
On a side note, the teachers are there to TEACH, not be substitute parents. If you want substitute parents for kids, raise the pay to about $200K/year.
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calamityjohn
10:32 PM on 06/09/2012
Our govt. officials are propagating a myth that ending teachers unions will raise teacher quality .. when anybody with a moment of reflection would realize that ending teachers unions will lower teacher salaries .. which will attract a lower quality person to the profession. Name one job where lower wages attracts higher quality employees.
12:48 PM on 06/09/2012
I watched a roundtable hosted by Charlie Rose and let me tell you, the future for teachers seems mighty bleak. I'd think twice about getting into education now as it seems that "technology" will be replacing you and you will become nothing more than a TA to the "screen".

I am also worried about a "school system" that some wealthy man started in the San Jose, CA community. It seems that he is using technology to teach hispanics. That's great, except I find it offensive that one group, a group that we have been told will control the USA in the very near future has been given these advantages. Is it POSSIBLE that these children are illegals and are being taught to take over the USA? Just a question to think about.
foresure
Brash and Harsh
12:59 AM on 06/10/2012
blindhog:

As long as teachers are only concerned about "what's in the best interests" of teachers, then they will be held in disfavor.
foresure
Brash and Harsh
02:27 PM on 06/10/2012
blinddog:

You are so right. The teachers have been so successful, that nothing, nothing needs to be improved.

Who ever heard of technolgy be an expander of human abilities. I thought that notion was disposed of the by Luddites of England 200 years ago.
12:25 PM on 06/09/2012
In the private sector, fire your competant staff and hire your friends and you lose money. Then you lose your job. The market regulates your actions. In the public sector, fire your competant staff and hire your friends. You have graft and political clout to protect your job. Tenure protects from cronyism. In our urban district, the white staff fears losing their jobs without tenure protection. We already dealt with our administration hiring their friends at the top of the salary scale. As for eliminating tenure being an incentive to do a better job, that is correct, as long asa better job not as means working for the interests of the politicians who control the schools, not being a better teacher. Do you think it is really the teachers who want dangerous students kept in their classrooms? Is it the teachers who want illiterate students given diplomas? Is it the teachers that are promoting lower standards? These dictates come from the schoolboards and administration who answer to parents. They fear lawsuits. Even with tenure, most teachers fear the repercussions of standing up to this pressure. Who wants the hassle of getting the worst classes full of the most disruptive kids,write ups for nonsense, etc? Without tenure protection most teachers cave to the political pressure. Pass everyone. Get your home and auto insurance from the principal's wife. Change thoses grades for the board member's daughter.
11:31 PM on 06/09/2012
Yes. There is a lot of nonsense in schools. You should see what charters are like. Total garbage.
foresure
Brash and Harsh
02:29 PM on 06/10/2012
jonmche:

Ever consider that in the private sector, it is condisdered perfectly acceptable to measure compentcy, whereas teachers find the notion of measure knowldege, effectiveness and comptency completely WRONG.
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Timothy D. Slekar
Associate Professor of Teacher Education
05:15 PM on 06/11/2012
Okay Mr. private sector. Once you, first learn how to spell, then please explain the scientific measurements used to measure "knowledge." Not scores on a standardized test either Einstein. And what is an effective teacher? How do you spot one in a classroom? What is that you see? Explain! What about competency? Can you spell it first?
03:35 PM on 06/14/2012
In the private sector, competence means profits. As long as your charter makes money, that's enough.

That's how little kids get to walk across the LBJ Freeway in Austin to go McDonald's for lunch every day. Their charter found food not profitable.
02:30 AM on 06/09/2012
" I explained how collective bargaining allows teachers to negotiate for the conditions that create an environment that supports learning. Such things as working conditions, class size, teaching resources, aids, and planning time all benefit children. Even when it comes down to salary and benefits the ability to bargain for a fair wage benefits helps children. Teachers (in order to teach powerfully) need to have some feeling of economic stability"

Really and how many people get to have such "environments" in the private sector. The reality is that teachers need to accomodate the the real world and not some protected class. I do believe a lot of the ills with education are poor parents -- but teachers and schools are need to be held accountable to results, with the approriate environment put in place to get results. It doesn't need to be "negotiated".

As for salaries -- that's bunk too. Everyone would love to have the feeling of security. But its the feeling of insecurity that provide the motivation for many to achieve results -- to better themselves, and to not expect a paycheck just for showing up. Your arguments are silly and people are waking up to them.
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Timothy D. Slekar
Associate Professor of Teacher Education
08:43 PM on 06/09/2012
Bunk? Why do you choose to live in a fictional world that requires winners and losers. Instead of arguing that teachers have too much why don't you try arguing that you don't have enough. WTF is wrong with you? Teachers making $50,000.00 and CEOs making 500 million and you're pissed off at teachers. Get a clue. The rich are coming for you too.
11:44 PM on 06/09/2012
Outstanding article. I've been blown away at the poor union leadership at the top. They have done a poor job helping teachers. The media has helped to denigrate teachers and I have really been disgusted by how Obama has allowed the Education Secretary to harm educators across the country. They've sold out to billionaires.
foresure
Brash and Harsh
01:03 AM on 06/10/2012
Professor:

As long as the only interest of teachers is to protect themselves, competent, indifferent, drunk, senile,, and so long as the have a profound resistance to accountability, and as long as the continue to blame failure on everyone but themselves, they will not garner a lot of respect.

Given that teachers who graduate in pure education have no saleable skills, and have guaranteed llifetime employment, they are doing pretty well.
11:37 PM on 06/09/2012
You have no clue what it is like to work in a school with a private sector environment. Try working in an inner city school with no job protection, crappy pay, no matching 401 k, not enough supplies to teach, and children who do not turn in classwork, homework, and projects on time. The charter CEO with no educational experience hires family members and conveniently pays himself millions of your tax dollars. WoW!!! Don't you love the use of your tax dollars? You are absolutely clueless. The education system is being sold out and is going down the tubes. The politicians don't give on d@#$ about education in this country. It is all about taking your tax dollars and getting rich
09:31 AM on 06/10/2012
You are right -- while I have a lot of experience working in schools, I have not been involved with an inner city school. But here is what I would say about that. In the schools I have worked for - there is accountability to results. When you don't results you change the system -- change teachers, change administrators, change board members, etc. What never seems to change is the Union leadership -- maybe that needs to change too.

I don't really care whether CEO's hire family members or not if the people are qualified and they achieve results. As for being sold out -- you know who is selling out the system -- ineffective, uncaring parents who expect the school system alone to take care of ensuring their children are education.
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jlp1858
Here's your sign.....
12:31 AM on 06/09/2012
Whenever someone talks about unions being corrupt and teachers being paid enormous salaries, it brings to mind when GM was having trouble and the govt was loaning them money. On the radio, daily, I heard (mostly men) going on and on that they shouldn't bail out the auto industry because all auto workers were lazy and made 90 dollars an hour for sleeping on the job. I can be as certain as I'm breathing air that not ONE of those callers had ever worked in an auto factory. Who started those lies and had those people believing that I always wondered about. Seems like once a lie is told often enough, they always find many to believe it. Sounds to me like people believe what they want, regardless of the truth.....
05:04 AM on 06/09/2012
Wrong, I have worked in a GM facility for 25 years plus. I have personally seen "love shacks" built in the plant rafters, I have seen people sleeping on the job and I have seen people willfully sabotage equipment. GM has NOT been solved, the problem was just kicked down the road.

Detroit should have been allowed to close, it would have been best for America.
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jlp1858
Here's your sign.....
09:37 AM on 06/10/2012
You can send your retirement check back to GM if you wish, sounds like you were part of the problem.....Best for America....you sound like Myth Romney.....
foresure
Brash and Harsh
01:05 AM on 06/10/2012
ji:

No not enormous salaries. But with a C+ average. and being basically unemployable in any other capacity, they are doing pretty well.

Of course there is the taboo subject of being paid for 12 months work, and only required to work about 4.5 days a week for 9.5 months.
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jlp1858
Here's your sign.....
09:36 AM on 06/10/2012
Aren't we being snooty?? Funny how envy shows in so heavily in these posts, but is disguised as knowledge.
03:54 PM on 06/08/2012
As a teacher I feel someday that I will be forced to stand at a freeway exit with a sign that reads "will teach for food". It's been five years since I've seen a pay raise and my benefits have also been cut. My advice to any young person contemplating going into teaching is DON'T. Teaching is very rewarding emotionally but at the end of the day you will have a family that must be provided for.
08:09 PM on 06/08/2012
So the question is why? Speaking for California, we are putting more dollars today than we have ever.

http://www.cacs.org/ca/visualization/index

The problems are that the number of administrators per student have increased and that money is being redirected from current spending to fill up the hole in historical pension underfunding or losses by the state hedge funds run for teachers (CalSTRS).

Those costs result in less dollars for current teachers. The money is there, it is not going to the right people.
01:58 AM on 06/09/2012
California is 47th per pupil expenditures. Teacher contribute 8% of their salaries for retirement matched by their employer. Teachers do not contribute to SS. There are no additional funds being directed to their retirement.
05:05 AM on 06/09/2012
I just got my first increase in 8 years and and have had my benefits cut and my pension eliminated by Obama. Remember that Obama "saved" GM.....

I wish I had your luck.
11:46 PM on 06/09/2012
I work in a charter school. I have had no pay increase in 4 years and have no matching 401k and pay high amounts for insurance. I wish I had your luck
foresure
Brash and Harsh
01:06 AM on 06/10/2012
luampmi:

"Cry me a River"

American democracy and the American economic system doesn't stop you from getting a fulltime job.
03:23 PM on 06/08/2012
Education wages and benefits are the last great economic BUBBLE that is about to POP.
03:06 PM on 06/08/2012
"I explained how collective bargaining allows teachers to negotiate ..." Teachers are not at the negotiating table.

The teacher's union and the elected officials are the two at the negotiating table. Since the teacher's union does not support activities that improve the classroom education for students and the elected officials care more about where the next donation is coming from instead of the classroom education for students, you have a problem. This problem has morphed into a flow of money out of the classroom and into administrative jobs and hedge funds for the benefit of high paid public employees (typically not teachers). On top of it all they used GASB accounting (basically cash based) which under valued future costs, which is moving current dollars to back fill past (undervalued) promises.

San Jose and San Diego are classic examples.
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jsgaetano
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03:14 PM on 06/08/2012
The Teacher's Union works for the teachers. BTW, you have any proof of your claim that no teachers are in the teacher's union?
05:52 PM on 06/08/2012
"The Teacher's Union works for the teachers." And the CEO of every business works for the shareholders.

In California the teacher's union collects two sets of dues. The first covers the collective bargaining costs and cannot be used for political activities. It is mandatory. The second is used just for political activities. It is voluntary. You don't get a vote for the union management if you don't contribute to the second. So, at least in California, the teachers are not the union. The union is a political organization, which happens to take money from teachers to execute the collective bargaining function along side thier political activities.

I never said that no teachers were in the union, I said the union is not the same thing as teachers, and in many cases does not represent the goals of teachers. The same can be said of the relationship between a CEO and the shareholders.
02:41 PM on 06/08/2012
I support teachers. But municipal contracts generally are bankrupting municipalities. Between people living 20 - 30 years longer than the norm when the baseline of benefits was established, and healthcare costs zooming, pensions are breaking the bank. Moreover, vesting in the pensions after only 20 years service drives the rest of us insane, Especially if they load up on overtine the last year to featherbed the pension. The municipal unions are biting the hand that feeds them. Fairness requires everyone to take a haircut.
08:12 PM on 06/08/2012
A greek friend of mine told me a story, and the numbers are relative, not absolute.

A public bus driver used to earn $200 per month and a private tour bus driver $100 per month. The pension for public driver was 90% after 25 years, so they could retire at 50 with $180 per month. The austerity imposed cut that by 30%, so the bus driver now gets $126 per month in retirement.

Taking a haircut from crazy to silly does not solve the problem.
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MarcEdward
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08:29 PM on 06/10/2012
It really depends on where you live, doesn't it?
Here in NC, a teacher can retire at 20, 25 or 30 years, but the pension (which you won't get rich living off) at 20 years is a lot less than at 30 years.
Now you can propose cutting pensions, health care, tenure, etc., but I'm guessing you're familiar with the saying "You get what you pay for".
Teacher pay is rather low when you consider the level of education AND responsibility a teacher has, the pensions and job security (supposedly) are the only things that make it worth it IMO.
Of course in most parts of the USA, teachers have no unions, or unions that are so weak that they might as well not exist.
(this issue is a bee in my bonnet as they say, as my mom taught 30 years and my DW is in her 21st  year of teaching)
09:01 AM on 06/11/2012
I hear you. But i'm in NYC, and municipal Ks are killin us. I want unions to be protected, but adjustments need to be made on pensions or vesting.
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tultican
Thomas Ultican, MEd. BS Mecahnical Engineering
01:31 PM on 06/08/2012
It seems to me that union leaders truly are guilty of protecting adults at the expense of children. The adults they are protecting are the union leaders. Our president uses the old bait and switch by having a truly gifted education professional, Linda Darling-Hammond, speak for his campaign on education issues and then he runs her off to install hedge fund favorite, Arne Duncan as secretary of education. He uses federal dollars to promote charter schools, VAM for teacher evaluations, and cheers the attack on teachers. I’ll never forget the unjust attack on the Central Falls High teachers. So of course the National Education Association gives him its full throated endorsement. I do not see a dimes bit of difference between the education policies of the two major parties and it is clear that the Democratic party has abandoned workers. From what I see no one is representing teachers’ interests and it is only rank and file teachers and parents who are fighting to save public education. As educators we need to educate our neighbors and stay informed ourselves.
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James Lunsford
01:55 PM on 06/08/2012
Amen. Amen AMEN. Thanks.
01:57 PM on 06/08/2012
The teachers in Wisconsin will be "openly challenging union positions that do not support children, teachers, and communities." in July of this year just as this article suggests! Plus, they will be more engaged with the communities they serve without a gag on.


They will be leaving the teacher's union en masse. Perhaps the Teacher's Union leadership will listen now?
01:00 PM on 06/08/2012
This article has some decent points but completely misses the mark, as a Citizen in Wisconsin, I will communicate what the problem is:


o The public is fed up not with Teachers, but with the Public Union itself. In addition, many teachers are fed up with the teacher's union.


Teachers, (in my school district in Wisconsin) were not allowed input on things that benefitted education, or children, they had to support one person's politics (the teacher's union head). Also, since Wisconsin was a compulsorary union state for public-sector unions, the teacher's union head did not need consensus of teachers to raise political funds. This was evidenced after Act 10 was in effect when teacher union heads were frantically trying to get the names and bank accounts of their "members" since they had no clue who they were.

----And as a result - the teachers in my community broke ranks with the teacher's union and made concessions via a handshake agreement WITH THE COMMUNITY since the teacher's union refused to make concessions for 2 years and would not agree to any contract - it took an ACT OF WISCONSIN CONGRESS to simply get my public schools to FUNCTION due to "collective (sic) bargaining"

Why should teachers fight a union head who does not care about them, or for education?

In July of this year Wisconsin teachers will be leaving the teacher's union, and that is what all teachers should do, to better public education.
02:18 PM on 06/08/2012
The article doesn't miss the mark, it makes the same point you communicate through a personal example. Both the author and you state that union heads care more about their own survival than the students or education. In the words of United Opt Out leaders, they negotiate with children.

Leave the union to better public education? How do you expect teachers to better public education without a united front? Just let ed reformers dictate changes and watch them also negotiate with children's lives for the sake of "commodifying" them with private corporations?

The State has power. Big corporations have power. Power always becomes corrupt. Without a reorganized and refocused teacher's union, things will only get worse.
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Shaun Johnson
Teacher educator and former classroom teacher
02:21 PM on 06/08/2012
Perhaps, but perhaps not. Without a union, educators will not be protected from academic freedom. That is, to have input in what they teach and how they do it. With scripted curricula coming down the pike, teachers are going to lose autonomy that might not return. I do, however, agree that in many ways the unions, especially the national ones, are so interested in their own survival that they'd rather compromise the values of their members.
08:26 PM on 06/08/2012
I have no problem with scripted curricula in the lower grades. In fact, I would insist that they follow a scripted curriculum. We want to know that they will learn multiplication at a certain point, certain vocabulary words over the various grades, same for grammar, history, science and French. I don’t want a teacher having the choice to drop a concept or subject because they disagree. I don’t want them to slow down because one child does not grasp a concept so the other kids don’t get to learn it.

I do want the teacher to have the freedom to teach the method that works best for a particular group of kids or a wide variety of ways that allows for kids to grasp the subjects effectively.

It is not a matter of what, it is a matter of how. This is where the unions fail their teachers the most.

I send my young kids to private school. It teaches the state curriculum, but one year ahead (so my 3 grader is learning the 4th grade material). The cost is less than the annual cost in the public school per child and the class size at the school is capped at 12, most are around 9. There is one administrator who also doubles as the janitor, counselor, and secretary. It is a misallocation of resources and the big driver behind that is the union.
12:10 PM on 06/08/2012
It's all moot now.

By this time next year there will be no such thing as a public teaching profession.
01:55 PM on 06/08/2012
Oh there will be public teachers.


Just not teachers unions. We will finally have the community and teachers working together for Education without someone skimming public funds and being disruptive or stopping essential services of government.
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jsgaetano
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03:16 PM on 06/08/2012
Nah, there won't be. Conservatives want their "schools" to be as failed and fraud-based as everything conservatives do.
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jsgaetano
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03:16 PM on 06/08/2012
You do understand that unions work for the teachers? And that they aren't getting paid by the taxpayers? Oh wait, that just destroys your failed and fraud-based talking points.
12:04 PM on 06/08/2012
The Unions are running scared. Look what is happening in historically prounion states like Wisconsin and Michigan.The right wing has succeeded in turning the politics of envy on its head. The mob is cheering and right wing zealots gleefully strip teachers of their basic protections. No more tenure protection. (Modified to the point of impotence). No more collective barginning rights (State is overriding districts negotiations) Benefits are being taken away without negotiation. The right to negotiate working conditions being eliminated. The ability of the Union to collect dues is punitively attacked. As the right wing burns these hard won worker rights on their bonfire of the vanities, it is easy to see why the Unions in other states are rolling over,hiding in fear. Hoping that the mob attacks somewhere else, praying that they survive, praying that the storm will pass them by. This Union's membership is made of the college educated middle class, not the poor unskilled labor of the historic union movement. They had nothing, therefore nothing to lose. With mortgages and college tuition to pay for, we have a lot to lose. We are soft. There is no standing on the Rouge Overpass for us. So the right wing cow us into submission.
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jsgaetano
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03:17 PM on 06/08/2012
It's amazing how every Red Welfare State is a miserably failed mess which produces the dumbest people in the industrialized world... yet conservatives claim the Blue States need to be just as failed and fraud-based as the Red States.
11:53 PM on 06/09/2012
So true.